Toe Tool
#1
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Toe Tool
Can anyone recommend an inexpensive toe tool?
Can I get somewhat accurate and repeatable toe measurements using the tape measure tools?
Can I get somewhat accurate and repeatable toe measurements using the tape measure tools?
#5
Race Director
check my DIY guide at my site. You can get very reliable, repeatable numbers with a straight edge and a tape measure.
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
#6
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Even better Free
Thanks.
Thanks.
check my DIY guide at my site. You can get very reliable, repeatable numbers with a straight edge and a tape measure.
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
#7
check my DIY guide at my site. You can get very reliable, repeatable numbers with a straight edge and a tape measure.
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
How do I calculate the "caster multiplier constant" (2.62 for steering ratio 16:1) for other steering ratios?
Do you know what is the steering ratio on a '95 ZR1?
Thanks.
#8
Race Director
petefias, I don't know the ZR1 ratio, but I bet it's close to the same as the C5/C6. Anyway, the trick is to realize that IF you could turn the front wheels 90 deg, camber would equal castor. I used a sin conversion to link the castor-induced camber in a turn. Using the steering wheel is the easiest way to get a consistent turning point.
Anyway, I'll try and track down the C4 ratio, and figure it out. I think the numbers in my sheet are OK for you though, as getting them similar is more important than the outright number.
Dave
Anyway, I'll try and track down the C4 ratio, and figure it out. I think the numbers in my sheet are OK for you though, as getting them similar is more important than the outright number.
Dave
#9
Race Director
OK, these are all just approximations, but the ZR1's had either 15.6 or 15.7, and the Z52 cars had 13:1.
Anyway, for 15.6:1, you'd use 2.55
for 15.7:1, you'd use 2.57
for 13:1, you'd use 2.15
Basically, take 1 turn of the wheel (half turn in each direction), divide that by the ration (360deg / 15.7=22.92deg), then calculate 1/(sin 22.9)=2.57
Anyway, for 15.6:1, you'd use 2.55
for 15.7:1, you'd use 2.57
for 13:1, you'd use 2.15
Basically, take 1 turn of the wheel (half turn in each direction), divide that by the ration (360deg / 15.7=22.92deg), then calculate 1/(sin 22.9)=2.57
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this is the one for C4's that I follow.
http://www.vettenet.org/align.html
Tools do make it easier.
As pointed out, finding a level surface is the hardest, especially at some tracks.
Any tips on setting up a level surface besides big $$$ leveling scales?
http://www.vettenet.org/align.html
Tools do make it easier.
As pointed out, finding a level surface is the hardest, especially at some tracks.
Any tips on setting up a level surface besides big $$$ leveling scales?
#12
OK, these are all just approximations, but the ZR1's had either 15.6 or 15.7, and the Z52 cars had 13:1.
Anyway, for 15.6:1, you'd use 2.55
for 15.7:1, you'd use 2.57
for 13:1, you'd use 2.15
Basically, take 1 turn of the wheel (half turn in each direction), divide that by the ration (360deg / 15.7=22.92deg), then calculate 1/(sin 22.9)=2.57
Anyway, for 15.6:1, you'd use 2.55
for 15.7:1, you'd use 2.57
for 13:1, you'd use 2.15
Basically, take 1 turn of the wheel (half turn in each direction), divide that by the ration (360deg / 15.7=22.92deg), then calculate 1/(sin 22.9)=2.57
Got it, thank you.
#13
Makes sense, that's what I found. The toe measurements aren't affected by much, the camber yes since we're using a level as a reference.