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Old 04-19-2007, 05:46 PM
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Can anyone recommend an inexpensive toe tool?

Can I get somewhat accurate and repeatable toe measurements using the tape measure tools?
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Got my Hardbar Alignment tool yesterday -- looks awesome! Not sure if it falls into "inexpensive" but the cost seems worth it.
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I use toe plates. I cut the bottom out to clear the tire bulge. With 2 tape measures it's real easy and simple.

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check my DIY guide at my site. You can get very reliable, repeatable numbers with a straight edge and a tape measure.

http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/

http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
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Even better Free

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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
check my DIY guide at my site. You can get very reliable, repeatable numbers with a straight edge and a tape measure.

http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/

http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
check my DIY guide at my site. You can get very reliable, repeatable numbers with a straight edge and a tape measure.

http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/

http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/align.pdf
Dave, excellent write-up. I've done alignments on my car very similar ways as you describe. My biggest problem is to "find" a level floor to perform the procedure (my garage floor has a slope toward the center drain).

How do I calculate the "caster multiplier constant" (2.62 for steering ratio 16:1) for other steering ratios?

Do you know what is the steering ratio on a '95 ZR1?



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petefias, I don't know the ZR1 ratio, but I bet it's close to the same as the C5/C6. Anyway, the trick is to realize that IF you could turn the front wheels 90 deg, camber would equal castor. I used a sin conversion to link the castor-induced camber in a turn. Using the steering wheel is the easiest way to get a consistent turning point.

Anyway, I'll try and track down the C4 ratio, and figure it out. I think the numbers in my sheet are OK for you though, as getting them similar is more important than the outright number.

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OK, these are all just approximations, but the ZR1's had either 15.6 or 15.7, and the Z52 cars had 13:1.

Anyway, for 15.6:1, you'd use 2.55
for 15.7:1, you'd use 2.57
for 13:1, you'd use 2.15

Basically, take 1 turn of the wheel (half turn in each direction), divide that by the ration (360deg / 15.7=22.92deg), then calculate 1/(sin 22.9)=2.57
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this is the one for C4's that I follow.
http://www.vettenet.org/align.html
Tools do make it easier.
As pointed out, finding a level surface is the hardest, especially at some tracks.

Any tips on setting up a level surface besides big $$$ leveling scales?
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I don't have drains, so my shop floor (as well as home garage floor) are quite good. You can still check toe even if the floor isn't perfect.
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
OK, these are all just approximations, but the ZR1's had either 15.6 or 15.7, and the Z52 cars had 13:1.

Anyway, for 15.6:1, you'd use 2.55
for 15.7:1, you'd use 2.57
for 13:1, you'd use 2.15

Basically, take 1 turn of the wheel (half turn in each direction), divide that by the ration (360deg / 15.7=22.92deg), then calculate 1/(sin 22.9)=2.57

Got it, thank you.
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
I don't have drains, so my shop floor (as well as home garage floor) are quite good. You can still check toe even if the floor isn't perfect.


Makes sense, that's what I found. The toe measurements aren't affected by much, the camber yes since we're using a level as a reference.

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