Im guessing my car isnt set up for AutoX?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
Im guessing my car isnt set up for AutoX?
The more I watch and read about autocross the more I want to do it, but im pretty sure my set up isnt correct. Do you think I could get away with doing some noob runs and maybe just having fun autocrossing without ever getting serious, or would it not even be worth it and I should stick to the drag strip?
98 vert, auto, supercharged, runflats (i know they suck), baer cross drilled rotors, lowered front and rear, harness bar, 5pts.
and the other mods are in the sig
Or anything I can change to get me a better set up (besides tranny swap, selling the s/c cause that would cost to much lol)
98 vert, auto, supercharged, runflats (i know they suck), baer cross drilled rotors, lowered front and rear, harness bar, 5pts.
and the other mods are in the sig
Or anything I can change to get me a better set up (besides tranny swap, selling the s/c cause that would cost to much lol)
Last edited by B-rent; 04-14-2007 at 03:04 PM.
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The more I watch and read about autocross the more I want to do it, but im pretty sure my set up isnt correct. Do you think I could get away with doing some noob runs and maybe just having fun autocrossing without ever getting serious, or would it not even be worth it and I should stick to the drag strip?
98 vert, auto, supercharged, runflats (i know they suck), baer cross drilled rotors, lowered front and rear, harness bar, 5pts.
and the other mods are in the sig
Or anything I can change to get me a better set up (besides tranny swap, selling the s/c cause that would cost to much lol)
98 vert, auto, supercharged, runflats (i know they suck), baer cross drilled rotors, lowered front and rear, harness bar, 5pts.
and the other mods are in the sig
Or anything I can change to get me a better set up (besides tranny swap, selling the s/c cause that would cost to much lol)
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Don't worry about it.
You know what the biggest challenge is on your 1st autocross?
Finding your way around the course.
Just get out and get some seat time, and above all else enjoy yourself!
You know what the biggest challenge is on your 1st autocross?
Finding your way around the course.
Just get out and get some seat time, and above all else enjoy yourself!
#5
Drifting
Yeah. Go do it. You'll likely be a bit lost the first time out, but it's kinda addictive. I have great respect for the autox set now that I've tried it a little.
Stock, the A4 corvette is pretty well set up for most autocross in second gear. Not sure how yours will be with the FI.
Stock, the A4 corvette is pretty well set up for most autocross in second gear. Not sure how yours will be with the FI.
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Once your are there, walk the course twice. Get there early for that. If you local group allows it, ride with as many other people as possible.
On your first run, don't push it hard, instead try to get a feel for and learn the course. I've been autocrossing for four years, and I still have to do this. Start pushing for good times once you know the course.
If after a few events you do like it and want a better suspension set up, I know this works:
Z51/Z06 (same) front spring
Z51 rear spring
Z06 front sway bar
Z51/Z06 (same) rear sway bar
2004 Z06 shocks
That combo works great on a C5 coupe, and the parts are not expesive at all.
The run flats are going to kill your times once you are able to push it. They suck. If you want to autocross on street tires, stock stock Z06 Super Car tires are great and so are Michelin Pilot Sports.
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Go try it and see if you like it before you spend any money on autocross mods. The only exception would be a helmet if you don't already have one. Owning your own helmet makes life so much better, and you can use it drag racing as well.
Once your are there, walk the course twice. Get there early for that. If you local group allows it, ride with as many other people as possible.
On your first run, don't push it hard, instead try to get a feel for and learn the course. I've been autocrossing for four years, and I still have to do this. Start pushing for good times once you know the course.
If after a few events you do like it and want a better suspension set up, I know this works:
Z51/Z06 (same) front spring
Z51 rear spring
Z06 front sway bar
Z51/Z06 (same) rear sway bar
2004 Z06 shocks
That combo works great on a C5 coupe, and the parts are not expesive at all.
The run flats are going to kill your times once you are able to push it. They suck. If you want to autocross on street tires, stock stock Z06 Super Car tires are great and so are Michelin Pilot Sports.
Once your are there, walk the course twice. Get there early for that. If you local group allows it, ride with as many other people as possible.
On your first run, don't push it hard, instead try to get a feel for and learn the course. I've been autocrossing for four years, and I still have to do this. Start pushing for good times once you know the course.
If after a few events you do like it and want a better suspension set up, I know this works:
Z51/Z06 (same) front spring
Z51 rear spring
Z06 front sway bar
Z51/Z06 (same) rear sway bar
2004 Z06 shocks
That combo works great on a C5 coupe, and the parts are not expesive at all.
The run flats are going to kill your times once you are able to push it. They suck. If you want to autocross on street tires, stock stock Z06 Super Car tires are great and so are Michelin Pilot Sports.
Some questions after reading your info is:
What level of helmet is allowed?
Mine is a vert, with a hardtop and is that ok without a roll bar?
Good news is I already got the zo6 bars and metal endlinks i have the adjustable suspension, not sure what it is though
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Lots of good information in this sticky at the top of this section: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=673766 This is a good read: http://www.tirerack.com/features/solo2/handbook.htm Read thru the various posts and then go get some seat time.
The mods can come after you get some experience in the car and on various courses. For the first year, you can run as a Novice almost anywhere in spite of the mods you have. Having a supercharger will put you into a class with some pretty fast cars but the trick is to learn by watching, trying, asking questions, riding with experienced racers, even having an experienced driver run your car with you as a passenger.
Most clubs and groups will have training or school events where you can pick up a lot of good tips. And get seat time That is the best thing you can do to become good. Then get more seat time
Having your own helmet is a plus as you get one that fits your head and you don't have to worry about what other heads (with issues) have been in there before. Don't scrimp on a helmet. Get a Snell SA2005 rated helmet and it will serve for auto-x, drag racing and track days. Don't bother with a M-rated (motorcycle) helmet. Good open face SA2005 helmets are available from Bell, Simpson, G-Force and others for around $250; full-face helmets are more but offer enhanced protection. Try some on if you can.
Then get seat time with it.
The mods can come after you get some experience in the car and on various courses. For the first year, you can run as a Novice almost anywhere in spite of the mods you have. Having a supercharger will put you into a class with some pretty fast cars but the trick is to learn by watching, trying, asking questions, riding with experienced racers, even having an experienced driver run your car with you as a passenger.
Most clubs and groups will have training or school events where you can pick up a lot of good tips. And get seat time That is the best thing you can do to become good. Then get more seat time
Having your own helmet is a plus as you get one that fits your head and you don't have to worry about what other heads (with issues) have been in there before. Don't scrimp on a helmet. Get a Snell SA2005 rated helmet and it will serve for auto-x, drag racing and track days. Don't bother with a M-rated (motorcycle) helmet. Good open face SA2005 helmets are available from Bell, Simpson, G-Force and others for around $250; full-face helmets are more but offer enhanced protection. Try some on if you can.
Then get seat time with it.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
Thanks again for all the help from every body on here. I usually hang out in Off Topic and C5 General I cant wait to give it a try and Ill most likely spend the rest of this weekend reading all the posts in this section
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Did anyone mention -- "Get lots of seat time?" It's the best money you can spend.
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The more I watch and read about autocross the more I want to do it, but im pretty sure my set up isnt correct. Do you think I could get away with doing some noob runs and maybe just having fun autocrossing without ever getting serious, or would it not even be worth it and I should stick to the drag strip?
98 vert, auto, supercharged, runflats (i know they suck), baer cross drilled rotors, lowered front and rear, harness bar, 5pts.
and the other mods are in the sig
Or anything I can change to get me a better set up (besides tranny swap, selling the s/c cause that would cost to much lol)
98 vert, auto, supercharged, runflats (i know they suck), baer cross drilled rotors, lowered front and rear, harness bar, 5pts.
and the other mods are in the sig
Or anything I can change to get me a better set up (besides tranny swap, selling the s/c cause that would cost to much lol)
1. improving the driver, seat time, seat time, seat time
2. good tires
A supercharger is normally thought to give better linear acceleration then turbo cars with their sudden acceleration, which is bad in autocrossing.
The supercharger will probably put your car into Street Modified 2 class, a very advanced class, but you can still run novice driver class. You will find that most cars in SM2 will be running all the wheel and tire they can get under their car.
Go out and check it out, get a feel for the sport, have fun.
I have a automatic, although it is not the prefer option, I still have fun. Convertibles are not the preferred car in autocrossing, a coupe or hardtop will handle better in autocrossing, but as a beginner this doesn't matter, you could have the perfect car for autocrossing, but it will take some time for the new driver to become fast.
Good luck.
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B-rent,
First off, as mentioned above, read through the sticky at the top.
Second, understand that the thing in your car that isn't set up the most for autocross is you!
Third, when you get to the event, ask for an instructor; there's usually several available.
Make sure and let us know how it goes.
Have a good one,
Mike
First off, as mentioned above, read through the sticky at the top.
Second, understand that the thing in your car that isn't set up the most for autocross is you!
Third, when you get to the event, ask for an instructor; there's usually several available.
Make sure and let us know how it goes.
Have a good one,
Mike
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Le Mans Master
Don't scrimp on a helmet. Get a Snell SA2005 rated helmet and it will serve for auto-x, drag racing and track days. Don't bother with a M-rated (motorcycle) helmet. Good open face SA2005 helmets are available from Bell, Simpson, G-Force and others for around $250; full-face helmets are more but offer enhanced protection. Try some on if you can.
I got an open face because I like them better. Driver comfort is a factor as well, and I'm not comfortable in a full face.
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B-rent,
First off, as mentioned above, read through the sticky at the top.
Second, understand that the thing in your car that isn't set up the most for autocross is you!
Third, when you get to the event, ask for an instructor; there's usually several available.
Make sure and let us know how it goes.
Have a good one,
Mike
First off, as mentioned above, read through the sticky at the top.
Second, understand that the thing in your car that isn't set up the most for autocross is you!
Third, when you get to the event, ask for an instructor; there's usually several available.
Make sure and let us know how it goes.
Have a good one,
Mike
Also, our club(THSCC)has plenty of folks who will be glad to ride with you at an AX, some even have corvettes. The other clubs in NC are the same. Just don't let VMS4EVR scare you off, he can actually do a pretty good job at AX when he puts his mind to it.
You can look for me too.
Rob
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QowaUEaL_A
And the previous event I left quite a bit on the table on the first slalom (sorry about the shaky video, my first mount wasn't near stout enough):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCU_pdCG20Y
and tried to get a bit too much on the back side of the course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkVy75nDuTE
Great thing about autocross is that, if the course is set up well, there's very little risk to your car (and virtually none to the driver).
Have a good one,
Mike
#20
Le Mans Master
Just get out there!!!!!!!!! Just be prepared, it is addictive, and a hole will quickly develop in your wallet
Seriously though, I did my very first full track weekend 100% stock, including runflats. The car was still better than I was that first time out - your setup is fine - go have some fun!
Seriously though, I did my very first full track weekend 100% stock, including runflats. The car was still better than I was that first time out - your setup is fine - go have some fun!