Vette LS-1

My girlfriend owns an s2000 and for the first time we really got to go a few times. i took her in all respects from a roll and a stop (in more than one run) honestly though that car can handle. she will be SC the car soon and then it might be a little more of a compitition.
that being said, its soooo hott when a girl drives a car like that, and i mean really drive it,

Olitho

An S2000 with a few suspension modification of around $2-3k can really handle well on the track. A good driver in an S2000 will almost always beat an OK driver in a Z06. S2000s are one of the fastest cars on the track in stock trim and a few suspension improvements. They are light and the engine winds out well to around 8000 RPM giving it a decently wide torque curve.

With a supercharger, I would say respect that car a whole bunch.

Timz06

Dude you must be joking! A z06 will destroy an s2000 on track. I had a student who had one with a supercharger, and that car was extremely difficult to handle.

Vette LS-1

i dissagree, the few times ive been to autocross events the s2k has out done most corvetts.
but i will say the track can favor one car or the other. (really curvy =s2000, more straghtaways=vette.

Vette LS-1

btw the redline in that car is 9000 rpms

StArrow68

Oli, runs with Speedventures and is one of the faster Z06's out there I've seen and he knows that the S2000s running with that group are very quick as well. Check out the event results at www.speedventures.net and look at the low lap times for Vette's and S2000's, very comparable among the experienced drivers. At Buttonwillow last time out there were several Z's and 2000s doing just above 2 flat, I think on the 13 config. Like most agree, all depends on the driver.

jlucas

I own both. Both are great.
A power car the S2000 is not, but it handles great and has body rigidity like no other convertible.

frank dupuy

I agree with STArrow68. I have been passed more than I would like to say at Buttonwillow by an S2000. But I do slow down and give the wave by on the straight. I just don't want him on my azz in the twisty part of the track.

Olitho

You need to come out west and run with some of the S2000 drivers. I bet half of them will smoke you on the track. It is a very potent weapon on both tracks at Willow Springs, Spring Mountain and Buttonwillow and others. With the right driver and a few suspension mods, watch out, you will have your work cut out for you.

I agree if your student did not have the suspension modifications, while it can be a decent handling car, it can also be ill-mannered at times.

Olitho

I stand corrected.

Timz06

I seriously doubt that...I'd love to do some tracks out west, but if I did it would be in a rental car. How can you say that a car with a curb weight of 3179 with 240 hp will outperform a 3050 lb z06 with 400 hp? Especially with 315's all around the z is one of the best handling cars around.

Cashmo

For autox, a lot has to do with the top speed which is usually limited by the lot size. The early/late S2000's are even course dependent among themselves.

The 2004+ S2000 benefits from the following major enhancements:

* Larger displacement 2.2-liter engine (240 horsepower @ 7800 rpm and 162 lb.-ft. of torque @ 6500 (replaces 240 hp @ 8300 rpm and 153 ft.-lbs. @ 7500 rpm )
* Larger wheels and tires (17-inch)
* Revised suspension tuning
* Revised transmission gear ratios and improved shift feeling

Both weigh around 2700 lbs in autox trim.

Jeff

Olitho

Like I said, the car deserves its measure of respect. It can go. And like StArrow said, check out the lap times. They don't lie. The S2000s are right in there. Here is a good example.
http://www.speedventures.net/event_r...esults=OA&s=lt

Timz06

I don't think you can derive too much out of speedventure results...too driver dependent. I did a speedventures event at sebring, and I have the track record for them...not even a good time and I had never even ran the track before...see below, oh there seems to be an s2000 in the results as well, only 6 seconds behind...

Sebring International Raceway - 12 Hours Course
General Class Timing Name Car # Laptime Speed Make Model Year Tires HP
T5 slobird 02:32.723 87.22 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2002 Race 405
T3 rockysnapp 02:33.362 86.85 porsche 996tt 2001 Race 530
T6 N Khalidi 02:36.726 85.91 Porsche 911 Turbo 2000 Street 415
T7 airsport 106 02:38.637 84.87 Honda s2000 2002 Race 240
T7 robo 02:38.801 83.88 Nissan 300 ZX TT 1992 Street 400

StArrow68

Well, I'd agree that Speedventures at Sebring is not going to give you much good input. They are based in LA area and don't even get to Northern California as much as I'd like. But the results at the So. Calif. tracks are consistent and the S2000's in good hands do very well. Of course several of the principals were S2000 drivers when the group started, as I understand, and that might explain how good many are. Anyone on a new track is going to be working up to speed and it is going to take some more time than others. Enjoy your Z.
Randy

C6400hp

All I now is my C6 is significantly faster on any course than my supercharged 305 WHP S2000 was with the same driver.....That driver was ME. A well setup/well driven S2000 is certainly no slouch on track and they are a blast to drive but, a well setup/well driven Z06 should smoke it everytime. My C6 certainly does. If you need any proof just look at the SCCA national times. Well driven Z06's are typically 2-3 seconds or more faster than S2000's...... on an autocross course that heavily favors the S2000 over the Z06.. On a true road course the margin between the two only gets bigger.

Olitho

The whole premise of what I said is that the S2000 is a great track car and it deserve respect, especially when I good driver is behind the wheel. If you go back to my original statement I said:
"A good driver in an S2000 will almost always beat an OK driver in a Z06."

I still maintain that this is an accurate statement. I never said the S2000 is faster, but unless you are a good driver in a Z06, you might just get beat by an S2000 that has one behind the wheel.

wallyman424

hell, i was passing s2000's, mustang gt's, z3M's at cmp... in a 160hp subaru wagon...

i agree with you 100%. its also way easier to get to the limit in a low power, high grip car.

AMERICANMUSL

Amen brother! I may be biased here but it really depends on the track...If you take a technical track like Streets of Willow...stock for stock...the S-2000's are very difficult to beat...I'm with Oli, few suspension mod's to those things are deadly! Now high HP tracks like Big Willow...well you can guess...apples and oranges but if the gentleman with the C6 wants to reference there competitiveness, check out Speedventures and look up the name Rylan...he has a gutted basically stick engine and full aero on RA1's not even slicks and he's competing with Comp Coupes, and GT3 cup cars...driver, track my friend it's all relative but then again I'm just a novice that does the red neck shuffle with not much talent at all! I love my Vette and appreciate it for it's abilities but again, apples and oranges...get my dreft?

C6400hp

I have heard of him, he used to spend alot of time in the racing and competition forum at S2KI.com. I spent alot of time on the S2K forums when I owned my S2000 ... The car is only as capable as the guy behind the wheel. There are all kinds on track.