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Old 05-04-2006, 03:17 PM
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I know it is last year's news, but do you think that Danica Patrick has a weight advantage?

She is 5'2" at 100lbs.

BTW here is a comment that she made regarding weight

"I don't think (my weight) plays that big a role," she said. "I can't control what size I am and how I'm built. The NBA doesn't lower the hoop for short guys."

Does she realize that being short in the NBA is a DIS-advantage while being light in an IRL car is an AD-vantage
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Well, you could take the arguement a bit further. All other things
equal, a female typically has a lower center of gravity than a male.
There is only so far a driver can recline, so it helps if nature places
more of your weight at floor level while seated.

However, females also have a higher percentage of body fat, ergo
less muscle mass than males. Add to this the difference in upper body
strength and so on. I'm sure that someone with more knowledge about
the physiological differences could continue to reel off more points. But
I feel safe in saying that pound for pound, a female is at a disadvantage
in a physical strength/endurance event.

My take is that she has good car control, she is gutsy, she is smart
and she has the Rahal team behind her. That why she is fast. Go
ahead and add some sprung, non-rotating ballast - it won't be fair
but she'll still be fast.

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Females are at a slight advantage over males as drivers of fast/race cars. Specifically for the reasons you mentioned (lower CG, smaller, fat weighs less than muscle, etc.) and that their circulatory & respiratory systems are made for giving birth - something that allows them to withstand more g-forces without blacking out (which is why tests show them physically to be better suited to fly fighter and test aircraft.)

Lastly, the argument could be made that they use less testosterone in decision making. But that arguably puts them at an equal disadvantage in that they can lack the competitive spirit due to the same hormonal discrepency. Personally I think this one's a wash at about the same level as the fat vs. muscle situation. It can take a LOT of muscle to drive a car so if it's missing, the weight advantage is likely offset by lack of strength and endurance. JMHO anyway.

As far as the whiners are concerned (umfoytmph humph hum), Lessen the advantage - GO ON A DIET!!!

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No advantage, cars have mininum weight they must achive. If the car & driver are under the min weight, then ballest is added to be at that mininum.
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The venue I see it coming into play is multi-driver races, unless the car+driver weight it set using the lightest driver.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
No advantage, cars have mininum weight they must achive. If the car & driver are under the min weight, then ballest is added to be at that mininum.
This true for most race series, but not IRL. That is the issue that Robbie Gordon was making.
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More power to her for being light. She is lucky that the rules are setup for her to do well in. The rules are what they are. Is it huge advantage for her to be light, yes! You don't see many big people in open wheel racing!

She's cute too!
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Given that it is a disadvantage in most cases, the fact that she gets a slight advantage in an IRL car, then Go For It! Got to believe that as tired as I get after 25 minutes in a 1050lbs Formula Mazda on Sears Point that conditioning and strength are other factors that provide some offset. If she can beat the guys heads up, I'm all for it.
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Originally Posted by StArrow68
If she can beat the guys heads up, I'm all for it.
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Hear, Hear!!!

Aggressive, good driver, committed to the sport, AND cute & lightweight?!? Sounds like a GR8 combination to me!

If she's kickin' your butt, either move over or lose weight!
(of course that whole move over thing's gonna be doubtful... it is racing after all.)
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It is a little advantage, but it's within the rules so WGAF? It's the teams job to gain advantages that are legal, no?
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In go karts, being 100lbs would be an advantage over larger drivers.

With the weight and power of the cars she's driving it probably makes much less difference than any other aspect of set up, suspension, tires, aero, etc...

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Originally Posted by MattW_VA
It is a little advantage, but it's within the rules so WGAF? It's the teams job to gain advantages that are legal, no?
yes it is the team's job to find advantaqges within the rules. When found it usually ends up with a rule change to make the playing field even again.

if HP and car weight are rules then I dont see why they dont change it to HP, car weight and driver weight. Then when someone loses to Danica they will not have an excuse....
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Well, it is still a matter of setup, teamwork and driver, and of course some luck. If body weight was that important in IRL, then there is no way Tony Stewart should have been champ! He is now called Nascar's Michelin Man.
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Originally Posted by ghoffman
Well, it is still a matter of setup, teamwork and driver, and of course some luck. If body weight was that important in IRL, then there is no way Tony Stewart should have been champ! He is now called Nascar's Michelin Man.

isnt he like 200 lbs. I guess that is heavy for racing

sorry 170lbs 5'9.

I am looking to see the heaviest racers.....
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IRL

Driver Height Weight
  1. Thiago Medeiros 6`3 178
  2. Buddy Lazier 6`0 175
  3. P.J. Chesson 5`8 175
  4. Jaques Lazier 5`11 170
  5. Eddie Cheever Jr. 6`0 170
  6. Marty Roth 6`0 170
  7. Sam Hornish Jr. 5`11 165
  8. Richie Hearn 5`7 165
  9. Ed Carpenter 5`9 165
  10. Townsend Bell 5`11 165
  11. Tomas Scheckter 5`11 160
  12. Jeff Simmons 5`10 160
  13. Dan Wheldon 5`9 158
  14. Scott Sharp 5`8 155
  15. Dario Franchitti 5`9 153
  16. Scott Dixon 5`10 150
  17. Buddy Rice 5`8 150
  18. Roger Yasukawa 5`7 150
  19. Alex Barron 5`10 150
  20. Bryan Herta 5`11 150
  21. Tomas Enge 5`7 150
  22. Kenny Brack 5`7 148
  23. Helio Castroneves 5`8 147
  24. Patrick Carpentier 5`9 147
  25. Felipe Giaffone 5`8 145
  26. Tony Kanaan 5`5 145
  27. Adrian Fernandez 5`8 145
  28. Jeff Bucknum 5`8 145
  29. Kosuke Matsuura 5`8 143
  30. Vitor Meira 5`7 141
  31. Paul Dana 5`6 140
  32. Ryan Briscoe 5`7 135
  33. Marco Andretti 5`6 135
  34. Jimmy Kite 5`4 125
  35. Danica Patrick 5`2 100

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NASCAR

Driver Height Weight
  1. Jimmy Spencer 6`0 230
  2. Dale Jarrett 6`2 215
  3. Michael Waltrip 6`5 210
  4. Tony Raines 6`2 210
  5. Ryan Newman 5`11 207
  6. Joe Ruttman 6`0 205
  7. Ken Schrader 5`9 200
  8. Kyle Petty 6`2 195
  9. Elliott Sadler 6`2 195
  10. Jeff Green 5`8 190
  11. Jeremy Mayfield 6`0 190
  12. Ron Fellows 6`1 190
  13. P.J. Jones 5`11 190
  14. Kevin Lepage 5`10 187
  15. Bill Elliott 6`1 185
  16. Joe Nemechek 5`9 185
  17. Rusty Wallace 6`0 185
  18. Carl Edwards 6`1 185
  19. Robby Gordon 5`10 180
  20. Sterling Marlin 6`0 180
  21. Kirk Shelmerdine 5`11 180
  22. Derrike Cope 5`7 180
  23. Martin Truex, Jr. 5`11 180
  24. Boris Said 6`0 180
  25. Jimmie Johnson 5`11 175
  26. Bobby Labonte 5`9 175
  27. Greg Biffle 5`10 175
  28. Carl Long 5`10 175
  29. Joey McCarthy 6`0 175
  30. Dave Blaney 5`8 170
  31. Tony Stewart 5`9 170
  32. Larry Foyt 5`9 170
  33. Morgan Shepherd 5`9 170
  34. Johnny Miller 5`10 170
  35. Kevin Harvick 5`10 170
  36. Dale Earnhardt Jr. 6`0 165
  37. Terry Labonte 5`10 165
  38. Jamie McMurray 5`8 165
  39. David Green 5`11 165
  40. Scott Riggs 5`6 165
  41. Ted Christopher 5`11 165
  42. Denny Hamlin NA 165
  43. Ricky Rudd 5`8 160
  44. Brian Vickers 5`11 160
  45. Geoffrey Bodine 5`8 160
  46. Casey Mears 5`8 158
  47. Jeff Burton 5`7 155
  48. Hermie Sadler 5`8 155
  49. Matt Kenseth 5`9 152
  50. Kurt Busch 5`11 150
  51. Jeff Gordon 5`7 150
  52. Kasey Kahne 5`8 150
  53. Chad Chaffin 5`10 150
  54. Brandon Ash 5`11 150
  55. Scott Pruett 5`8 150
  56. Mark Martin 5`6 135
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OK-some of those weights are just laughable. I've stood next to Jimmy Johnson and Tony Stewart before-No chance Johnson weighs and ounce more than 150, the guy is a smurf. Tony Stewart 170? Hahahahahahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by MattW_VA
OK-some of those weights are just laughable. I've stood next to Jimmy Johnson and Tony Stewart before-No chance Johnson weighs and ounce more than 150, the guy is a smurf. Tony Stewart 170? Hahahahahahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by MattW_VA
Tony Stewart 170? Hahahahahahahahahaha
That's probably Stewart's weight when he was in the 6th grade.
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Kenny Schrader 200! WTF???????

Hell, I bet he's not a sausage biscuit away from a deuce and a quarter.


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