It was inevitable apparently!
03-23-2006, 03:03 AM
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It was inevitable apparently!
Gone to the dark side!
Yes, it's true...no more street vette!
Short story is: Vette plays with Vipers at Spring...Vette and driver having much fun and in that special zone at track...Vette develops similar ailment like first brother motor 382...bad reading from DIC, clank, clank, clank, bog, bog, bog, cough, cough! Thanx to #### 
de ja vu for driver yet again. Alas, no more daily driver for me. Learned my lesson finally, thanx to you know who 
...perhaps, an expensive one but better late than never. 
So, for those of you that know me, I will be absent for awhile...as I plan on saving for a dedicated track car...yes, I will be joining the likes of RyanO and emf eventually. Currently, researching the project and one thing for sure, I will be staying far away form the LS1/6 oil pump and spend the money for a true dry sump...can't quit now...been bitten and infected...might as well enjoy the ride.
Are ya listen'n Hans? 
Yes, it's true...no more street vette!
Short story is: Vette plays with Vipers at Spring...Vette and driver having much fun and in that special zone at track...Vette develops similar ailment like first brother motor 382...bad reading from DIC, clank, clank, clank, bog, bog, bog, cough, cough! Thanx to #### de ja vu for driver yet again. Alas, no more daily driver for me. Learned my lesson finally, thanx to you know who ...perhaps, an expensive one but better late than never. So, for those of you that know me, I will be absent for awhile...as I plan on saving for a dedicated track car...yes, I will be joining the likes of RyanO and emf eventually. Currently, researching the project and one thing for sure, I will be staying far away form the LS1/6 oil pump and spend the money for a true dry sump...can't quit now...been bitten and infected...might as well enjoy the ride.
Are ya listen'n Hans?
03-23-2006, 03:25 AM
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Burning Brakes
. . . and you only had to nuke 3 motors in the process. 
Next thing you know, it won't really be the block that they were supposed to have installed. [but I digress]
It's all good -- you've been on the path to the dark side for a while. Now all 'ya gotta do is figure out where you're going to get all the cool stuff from.
Next thing you know, it won't really be the block that they were supposed to have installed. [but I digress]
It's all good -- you've been on the path to the dark side for a while. Now all 'ya gotta do is figure out where you're going to get all the cool stuff from.
03-23-2006, 03:37 AM
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[QUOTE=emf]. . . and you only had to nuke 3 motors in the process.
Next thing you know, it won't really be the block that they were supposed to have installed. [but I digress]
technically 2, since I used the top end...oh wait, those weren't my heads
should have left the Rippie alone!
Next thing you know, it won't really be the block that they were supposed to have installed. [but I digress]
technically 2, since I used the top end...oh wait, those weren't my heads
should have left the Rippie alone!
03-23-2006, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by emf
. . . and you only had to nuke 3 motors in the process.
Next thing you know, it won't really be the block that they were supposed to have installed. [but I digress]
It's all good -- you've been on the path to the dark side for a while. Now all 'ya gotta do is figure out where you're going to get all the cool stuff from.
Next thing you know, it won't really be the block that they were supposed to have installed. [but I digress]
It's all good -- you've been on the path to the dark side for a while. Now all 'ya gotta do is figure out where you're going to get all the cool stuff from.
03-23-2006, 10:21 PM
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Thanx Mike but I'm stick'n to the grass roots method...it has a certain charm! 
Already started gutting Vette...will have a parts list in a couple of weeks...as you know I love to break it down...it's almost like being at work!
Already started gutting Vette...will have a parts list in a couple of weeks...as you know I love to break it down...it's almost like being at work!
03-23-2006, 10:41 PM
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Melting Slicks
Ed, what config were you running? I saw the times on Viper Days were over 3 minutes.
FYI...
Corvette Fever is doing a 2-part 7 liter LS-1 Darton build for a road racing track car. This issue was the parts and machine work, next month is the assembly and dyno.
FYI...
Corvette Fever is doing a 2-part 7 liter LS-1 Darton build for a road racing track car. This issue was the parts and machine work, next month is the assembly and dyno.
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03-23-2006, 11:20 PM
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Melting Slicks
Ed,
You've never reported any problems with driving the vette on the street....You've blown 3 motors at the track.....and that's your excuse for converting it to a track car? Are you blaming the blown motors on the rest of the car?????
Fess up....you're suffering from "D.D.D." (displacment deficit disease) from chasing all the Vipers.
Good luck on the project....and don't forget to TIGHTEN ALL THE BOLTS when you put it together
You've never reported any problems with driving the vette on the street....You've blown 3 motors at the track.....and that's your excuse for converting it to a track car? Are you blaming the blown motors on the rest of the car?????
Fess up....you're suffering from "D.D.D." (displacment deficit disease) from chasing all the Vipers.
Good luck on the project....and don't forget to TIGHTEN ALL THE BOLTS when you put it together
03-24-2006, 09:38 AM
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Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by emf
bah, sleeved block.
World's shipping the LS7x stuff any day now.
World's shipping the LS7x stuff any day now.
World Warhawk LS7x
Is this for real?
LS7x 481 C.I. short block, built on the World Warhawk block, for $7500?
The Engine Shop
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03-24-2006, 09:46 AM
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Melting Slicks
ED--grab the checkbook--
$72,000.00
FOR SALE: Corvette ZO6, ROLEX GT car. Competing in the Grand American Rolex Series. This car will be sold as race ready. Complete with Penske shocks, Speedline wheels, air jacks, fuel safe cell, Brembo brakes, C6 head lights. Spares: complete body work, front nose, L & R front fenders, hood, L & R doors (new), L & R rear fenders , 2 rear bumper covers (1 new), windshield, front and rear suspension, set Penske shocks (newly rebuilt), springs, 2 spare transmissions, rear differential , 2 torque tubes (1 new), 12 Speedline wheels, rains, spare LS6 engine, spare set Brembo front brakes, hats & rotors, Pagent brake pads, hub bearings, spare head lights (new), many other small parts.
Car with above mentioned spares reduced to: $72,000.00.
$72,000.00
FOR SALE: Corvette ZO6, ROLEX GT car. Competing in the Grand American Rolex Series. This car will be sold as race ready. Complete with Penske shocks, Speedline wheels, air jacks, fuel safe cell, Brembo brakes, C6 head lights. Spares: complete body work, front nose, L & R front fenders, hood, L & R doors (new), L & R rear fenders , 2 rear bumper covers (1 new), windshield, front and rear suspension, set Penske shocks (newly rebuilt), springs, 2 spare transmissions, rear differential , 2 torque tubes (1 new), 12 Speedline wheels, rains, spare LS6 engine, spare set Brembo front brakes, hats & rotors, Pagent brake pads, hub bearings, spare head lights (new), many other small parts.
Car with above mentioned spares reduced to: $72,000.00.
03-24-2006, 11:09 AM
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[QUOTE=adamsocb]Ed, what config were you running? I saw the times on Viper Days were over 3 minutes.
They were running the 3.8...My VRL,s weren't up to temp and with traffic I pulled 3:08's...not too shabby for first time...very tech track but was nice to have 5a/5b back!
They were running the 3.8...My VRL,s weren't up to temp and with traffic I pulled 3:08's...not too shabby for first time...very tech track but was nice to have 5a/5b back!
03-24-2006, 11:20 AM
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Burning Brakes
I'm pretty sure Ryan's tired of the journey. I haven't yet, but then again I show up to track events and work on OTHER PEOPLE'S cars . . . so I'm just disturbed.
Charles -- That'd be it. A couple extra $$$s w/ the direction that I'm going [and, I've got a funny feeling the way Ed's going] but still VERY reasonable. Think a reliable 700+ crank HP out of a motor for less than a LS7 crate motor.
now, all they need to do is start SHIPPING parts . . . and I'll feel better.
Charles -- That'd be it. A couple extra $$$s w/ the direction that I'm going [and, I've got a funny feeling the way Ed's going] but still VERY reasonable. Think a reliable 700+ crank HP out of a motor for less than a LS7 crate motor.
now, all they need to do is start SHIPPING parts . . . and I'll feel better.
03-24-2006, 12:47 PM
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Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by emf
I'm pretty sure Ryan's tired of the journey. I haven't yet, but then again I show up to track events and work on OTHER PEOPLE'S cars . . . so I'm just disturbed.
Charles -- That'd be it. A couple extra $$$s w/ the direction that I'm going [and, I've got a funny feeling the way Ed's going] but still VERY reasonable. Think a reliable 700+ crank HP out of a motor for less than a LS7 crate motor.
now, all they need to do is start SHIPPING parts . . . and I'll feel better.
Charles -- That'd be it. A couple extra $$$s w/ the direction that I'm going [and, I've got a funny feeling the way Ed's going] but still VERY reasonable. Think a reliable 700+ crank HP out of a motor for less than a LS7 crate motor.
now, all they need to do is start SHIPPING parts . . . and I'll feel better.
I see that price is for Eagle (Chinese?) rotating assembly. Are you thinking something US (Lunati etc.) for the crank and rods?
03-24-2006, 01:59 PM
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Burning Brakes
Heh . . . I'm pretty sure it's going to be a race between Ed and I, at this point.
Rep was . . . . ok. They're set up for dealer distribution, which is OK -- my primary concern is to ID their shipping schedule. From there, heck . . I could order from Jegs.
I noticed the crank -- that's where I was alluding that some of the extra cost was to come from . . . I'm still putting the shopping list together, but my biggest headache at this point is finding good replacement LS7 rockers. offset intake is what's killing me, since I'm looking for shaft-mount. Need to call Katech and Jesel, but haven't had time.
Rep was . . . . ok. They're set up for dealer distribution, which is OK -- my primary concern is to ID their shipping schedule. From there, heck . . I could order from Jegs.
I noticed the crank -- that's where I was alluding that some of the extra cost was to come from . . . I'm still putting the shopping list together, but my biggest headache at this point is finding good replacement LS7 rockers. offset intake is what's killing me, since I'm looking for shaft-mount. Need to call Katech and Jesel, but haven't had time.
03-24-2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AMERICANMUSL
Gone to the dark side!
Yes, it's true...no more street vette! Short story is: Vette plays with Vipers at Spring...Vette and driver having much fun and in that special zone at track...Vette develops similar ailment like first brother motor 382...bad reading from DIC, clank, clank, clank, bog, bog, bog, cough, cough! Thanx to #### de ja vu for driver yet again. Alas, no more daily driver for me. Learned my lesson finally, thanx to you know who ...perhaps, an expensive one but better late than never.
So, for those of you that know me, I will be absent for awhile...as I plan on saving for a dedicated track car...yes, I will be joining the likes of RyanO and emf eventually. Currently, researching the project and one thing for sure, I will be staying far away form the LS1/6 oil pump and spend the money for a true dry sump...can't quit now...been bitten and infected...might as well enjoy the ride. Are ya listen'n Hans?
Yes, it's true...no more street vette!
Short story is: Vette plays with Vipers at Spring...Vette and driver having much fun and in that special zone at track...Vette develops similar ailment like first brother motor 382...bad reading from DIC, clank, clank, clank, bog, bog, bog, cough, cough! Thanx to #### de ja vu for driver yet again. Alas, no more daily driver for me. Learned my lesson finally, thanx to you know who ...perhaps, an expensive one but better late than never. So, for those of you that know me, I will be absent for awhile...as I plan on saving for a dedicated track car...yes, I will be joining the likes of RyanO and emf eventually. Currently, researching the project and one thing for sure, I will be staying far away form the LS1/6 oil pump and spend the money for a true dry sump...can't quit now...been bitten and infected...might as well enjoy the ride.
Are ya listen'n Hans?
03-24-2006, 04:17 PM
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Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
I didnt hear your LS1/6 oil pump story. Care to quickly catch me up to speed?
Ed loves getting into the details, but I'll summarize . . . . LS1 oilpump leaves a little to be desired. Every motor problem he's had has been a result of oil starvation & ability of the pump to keep pressure.
granted, both have largely been the result of a less than . . . . well, COMPETENT shop working on the car . . . . but, I digress. I guess they really can only be blamed for having the crank bolt back out a ton of times, and not key'g the crank when they said they did.
Damn. Who'd of thunk I was so bitter.
03-24-2006, 04:58 PM
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Holly Cow ****........
Sorry to hear this. Looks like I got my ride in race group just in time
Looking forward to another ride.. in your race version .... but then again you won't have a passenger seat will ya
DH
Sorry to hear this. Looks like I got my ride in race group just in time
Looking forward to another ride.. in your race version .... but then again you won't have a passenger seat will ya
DH
03-24-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by emf
Ed loves getting into the details, but I'll summarize . . . . LS1 oilpump leaves a little to be desired. Every motor problem he's had has been a result of oil starvation & ability of the pump to keep pressure.
granted, both have largely been the result of a less than . . . . well, COMPETENT shop working on the car . . . . but, I digress. I guess they really can only be blamed for having the crank bolt back out a ton of times, and not key'g the crank when they said they did.
Damn. Who'd of thunk I was so bitter.
granted, both have largely been the result of a less than . . . . well, COMPETENT shop working on the car . . . . but, I digress. I guess they really can only be blamed for having the crank bolt back out a ton of times, and not key'g the crank when they said they did.
Damn. Who'd of thunk I was so bitter.