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Old 03-11-2006, 07:08 PM
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Default Things that make you go Hmmmmm

Dang afternoon naps make me think too much.


Buy a C6 Z for 70-85 Large, depending markup

OR

a C6 Z51 with PADDLE SHIFTERS,

And

take out the LS2 repace with LS7 plus dry sump

take off Z51 suppension and put on C6 T1

PLUS
AP Racing Alcon or Stoptech 6/4 pot BBKs

AND Ron Davis radiator and better oil and trans coolers.

Things that make one go Hmmmmmm.
Old 03-11-2006, 08:29 PM
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well its not a true "paddle" shifter. its just a 6 speed auto that lets you change gears electronically. its not the same kind of system ferrari/bmw/audi/lambo are using.
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Not worth taking a high dollar car C6 or C6Z and hacking it up. Better to put a high powered LS2 and brakes in a C5. New Z will be 75 then you need to make it track ready Modded cars are worth squat.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Dang afternoon naps make me think too much.
Things that make one go Hmmmmmm.
Yeah I hear all you old farts have to take afternoon naps.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Old 03-12-2006, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
Yeah I hear all you old farts have to take afternoon naps.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Old 03-12-2006, 03:27 AM
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You could just make your C5 T1 legal and go racing.
Thats what you really want to do anyway.
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
Not worth taking a high dollar car C6 or C6Z and hacking it up. Better to put a high powered LS2 and brakes in a C5. New Z will be 75 then you need to make it track ready Modded cars are worth squat.
way too nice of a car to take to the track (frequently), unless you have THAT kind of money.
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Originally Posted by Dashzo6
You could just make your C5 T1 legal and go racing.
Thats what you really want to do anyway.
One day on track in competitive racing is way better than all the days spent watching. Kick it up a notch!
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If you get the Z51, why not send it off to Lingenfelter or someone? They can get you more ponies than the stock LS7 for less money than a crate LS7 I bet. Does the dry sump really buy much except slightly lower center of gravity?
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Or buy a C5 Z06 for $30k and put $20k into it and have a car that is quicker, brakes better, handles better and cost $20k less than all the options you are talking about.

The interior is nice but not $20k better.

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Dry sump will protec that $20k Lingenfelter motor. You would be crazy to pay for such a motor and not have something like that.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Dang afternoon naps make me think too much.


Buy a C6 Z for 70-85 Large, depending markup

OR

a C6 Z51 with PADDLE SHIFTERS,

And

take out the LS2 repace with LS7 plus dry sump

take off Z51 suppension and put on C6 T1

PLUS
AP Racing Alcon or Stoptech 6/4 pot BBKs

AND Ron Davis radiator and better oil and trans coolers.

Things that make one go Hmmmmmm.
paddle shifter ok for casual driving and maybe even some spirited driving on back roads, but you won't like it on track. Spent a day in VIN #2 2007 Coupe and found the shifting wasn't quick and precise like in a manual. It's really just like a Tiptronic with controls on the steering wheel.
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Originally Posted by rocsvette
paddle shifter ok for casual driving and maybe even some spirited driving on back roads, but you won't like it on track. Spent a day in VIN #2 2007 Coupe and found the shifting wasn't quick and precise like in a manual. It's really just like a Tiptronic with controls on the steering wheel.
The controls (buttons) on the wheel are horrible to use. rocsvette are you telling us that in 2007 the Corvette will have paddle shifter like Ferrari (who has it right)? When I tried it out in a 2006 I didn't realize that a mode was able to be activated for more spirited driving --- did you have that activated rocsvette?
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Originally Posted by TRAIL BOSS
The controls (buttons) on the wheel are horrible to use. rocsvette are you telling us that in 2007 the Corvette will have paddle shifter like Ferrari (who has it right)? When I tried it out in a 2006 I didn't realize that a mode was able to be activated for more spirited driving --- did you have that activated rocsvette?
Basically the paddle shift is the automatic trans with Tip like up and down buttons. They are placed ok on the wheel and work well enough, but the shifts aren't as sharp as you might want on track. The paddles only work when the shifter is placed in sport (pull all the way to the back). Placing the shifter in D disables the paddles. I drove it both ways.
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It was a OLD PERSON NAP guys. Old?? heck I am only 50.
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The latest HPTuners software can control the new 6spd auto TCM. That trans will also respond to traditional 'transgo' tyle modifications as well. Both should improve shifting response dramatically. If you can manage the heat the trans will generate, it could be lots of fun, plus be faster on the street as well. With the right torque converter, you can program it to stay locked up most of the time, much like the AMG speedshift trans (auto) strategy.

LG's already shown in some other threads where a cam/intake/headers LS2 matches stock LS7 output. Now all you need are brakes and a nice suspension underneath.
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Originally Posted by BPC5R
LG's already shown in some other threads where a cam/intake/headers LS2 matches stock LS7 output. Now all you need are brakes and a nice suspension underneath.

Yup that is not a problem. Ketech can build me a LS 2 with plenty of HP to the ground and road race reliabilty, for what ever that is worth.


I know a few ppl at DEI. They said sure they can build me a 350 with 700-900 HP too and it would be lots of fun to put one of the DEI road race Nascar motors used at Sonoma or the Glen into a Corvette.

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
It was a OLD PERSON NAP guys. Old?? heck I am only 50.
As of Sunday I'm now officially in that half-century club too. I didn't get no afternoon nap. Maybe that's why I'm cranky today... But I did get an oil cooler and I think I napped under the car during the install. Or is it supposed to take 8 hours to install one

I think that you could swap drivetrain and suspension parts in your C5 and come up with something really potent for less money than a C6 Z06. And it would outlast it on the track. Unless you think the C6 body style looks so much better than your C5 it is just a shell. But an expensive one.
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Not in bad shape now. Little over 400hp and 410tq to the ground now. T1 suppension and oil cooler and accusump and trans coolers. On fresh tires I run slow T1 speeds at VIR. Can do consitant 2:15-2:17s and T1 speeds are 2:11s to 2:09s I take it easy and the car has more to go.

So just need a cage.

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Not in bad shape now. Little over 400hp and 410tq to the ground now. T1 suppension and oil cooler and accusump and trans coolers. On fresh tires I run slow T1 speeds at VIR. Can do consitant 2:15-2:17s and T1 speeds are 2:11s to 2:09s I take it easy and the car has more to go.

So just need a cage.
Spec Racer Fords do consitant 2:15-2:17s at VIR
http://www.scca-enterprises.com/spec_ford.html
Chassis: Tube frame
Engine: Ford, 1.9 Liter fuel-injected SOHC 8 valve Hemi-head 4 cylinder (inline), water cooled
Transmission: Ford 5 speed
Exhaust: Custom
Engine Mgmt: Electronic
Wheelbase: 92"
Weight: 1670 lbs. (with driver)
Body: Three piece fiberglass
Horsepower: 105
Top Speed: 135 mph

Tires: Goodyear Eagle A400 SRF tire:
Front - 22"x7"x13"
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