Toyo RA1s or Nitto NT-555RIIs?
#1
Burning Brakes
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Toyo RA1s or Nitto NT-555RIIs?
Making the switch from GYSCs on stock '02 C5-Z06 rims (275F/295R) to something else for HPDEs this year.
Trying to decide between the Toyos or Nittos (275F/305R). Heard both are the same compound, despite having different tread patterns, etc.
Any opinions on which one to select? Where's a good place (online/phone order most likely) to get either from?
Thanks!
Trying to decide between the Toyos or Nittos (275F/305R). Heard both are the same compound, despite having different tread patterns, etc.
Any opinions on which one to select? Where's a good place (online/phone order most likely) to get either from?
Thanks!
#4
Team Owner
Originally Posted by freefall
I love my RA-1's - haven't run the Nitto's. Sasco Sports located at VIR - great guys and good prices.
DH
#5
Burning Brakes
Just got a set of Nitto RII from SFXperformance.com Full set in the sizes you listed for $1043 shipped to my door.
Still too cold in Chicago area to try them out.
Still too cold in Chicago area to try them out.
#6
Race Director
Both tires are made by Toyo. Both compounds are the same. Differences are tread design and depth (Toyos are 1/32 less), and sizing. Carcass of the RA-1 and RII are the same, according to the Toyo rep. Toyos tend to be pricier, from what I have seen.
Do not overlook the new Nitto NT-01 race tire. It is a newer version of the RII. Do not know what the Toyo counterpart will be.
Do not overlook the new Nitto NT-01 race tire. It is a newer version of the RII. Do not know what the Toyo counterpart will be.
#7
Melting Slicks
Nitto full tread depth. Toyo half tread depth. Then you get a slick for the remaining life of the tire. I have Toyo's and they hook up all the way to the cords. Good place for Toyo tires is.
http://www.frisbyracetire.com/
Steve
http://www.frisbyracetire.com/
Steve
Last edited by mountainbiker2; 03-11-2006 at 10:12 AM.
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I used the RIIs for a while and liked them alot...I felt as though, for the price, there was better options out there, especially if the tires were solely track tires. I will say though, if you are moving up from a street tire, the RII is a nice jump (and safe). i have since moved on to hoosier scrubs (Rolex GT and GACs)...obviously the difference is day and night, but do require your FULL attention.
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Originally Posted by mountainbiker2
Nitto full tread depth. Toyo half tread depth. Then you get a slick for the remaining life of the tire. I have Toyo's and they hook up all the way to the cords. Good place for Toyo tires is.
frisbyracetire.com
Steve
frisbyracetire.com
Steve
#10
Team Owner
Originally Posted by mountainbiker2
Nitto full tread depth. Toyo half tread depth. Then you get a slick for the remaining life of the tire. I have Toyo's and they hook up all the way to the cords. Good place for Toyo tires is.
frisbyracetire.com
Steve
frisbyracetire.com
Steve
The RII's only come with 5/32 ....... is that considered full
my last tires, the Khumo Mx I think came with 8 ro 9/32
DH
#11
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Originally Posted by TTRotary
Both tires are made by Toyo. Both compounds are the same. Differences are tread design and depth (Toyos are 1/32 less), and sizing. Carcass of the RA-1 and RII are the same, according to the Toyo rep. Toyos tend to be pricier, from what I have seen.
Do not overlook the new Nitto NT-01 race tire. It is a newer version of the RII. Do not know what the Toyo counterpart will be.
Do not overlook the new Nitto NT-01 race tire. It is a newer version of the RII. Do not know what the Toyo counterpart will be.
#12
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Steve
The RII's only come with 5/32 ....... is that considered full
my last tires, the Khumo Mx I think came with 8 ro 9/32
DH
The RII's only come with 5/32 ....... is that considered full
my last tires, the Khumo Mx I think came with 8 ro 9/32
DH
Steve
#13
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by mountainbiker2
Toyo claims that there tire starts with 8/32. I think it's more like 6/32. If that's the case, then you would get 3/32 tread, 3/32 slick with 4 grooves around tire.
Steve
Steve
How long do your RA1's last? I've just burned thru my second set of R2's; These lasted less than 5 trackdays (500 track mi.); still some resemblance of tread on fronts but have significant understeer (same condition as you saw at WSIR in Jan.). I'm considering trying the RA1s if I can get 1 or 2 more trackdays out of them.
Joe M
#14
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by joemoia
Steve,
How long do your RA1's last? I've just burned thru my second set of R2's; These lasted less than 5 trackdays (500 track mi.); still some resemblance of tread on fronts but have significant understeer (same condition as you saw at WSIR in Jan.). I'm considering trying the RA1s if I can get 1 or 2 more trackdays out of them.
Joe M
How long do your RA1's last? I've just burned thru my second set of R2's; These lasted less than 5 trackdays (500 track mi.); still some resemblance of tread on fronts but have significant understeer (same condition as you saw at WSIR in Jan.). I'm considering trying the RA1s if I can get 1 or 2 more trackdays out of them.
Joe M
Thanks for the shock link. My Toyo's only last 5 to 6 track days. When new they don't work as well as when they get worn out. You have nothing to lose in buying them. It's not like there going to last you a year or two. From what you have told me about Nitto's I think the Toyo's are better. They hook up all the way to the cords. After every track day, I switch the tires side to side. No problem in running the tires backwards. Not dismounting just switching to different sides.
Go to that link above for pricing. About $1060 delivered.
Let me know if you have more question.
Steve
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I run RA1s on the track, often leaving them mounted between events on my Z06 daily commuter. They are ok with full tread (though a bit squirmy), not chunking or blistering like some, and as just noted by Mountainbiker2, keep getting better as they become slicks after 3-5 weekends. If I didn't drive my car to the track, I would keep them even longer. As cross-over track/street tires, they are about the only game in town. I seldom see the Nittos at the track so can't comment. A few drivers like the pricey Mich Pilot Cups, but they come in limited sizes and have warm-up issues.
Bob 33
Bob 33