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To those familiar with these two Wolfgang products, does it make any difference in the order in which Fusion Spray Wax and Deep Gloss Paint Sealant are applied? I would appreciate any insights you may have.
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Same as any other product line. The order of application is not brand-specific. You want the most durable product applied first, as the least durable products will wear off first.

Sealant first, then wax last.
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Originally Posted by 409gary
To those familiar with these two Wolfgang products, does it make any difference in the order in which Fusion Spray Wax and Deep Gloss Paint Sealant are applied? I would appreciate any insights you may have.
Thanks.
I'd be real interested in knowing if these products work as well as advertised....
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Thanks for the advice. It seems quite logical.
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Originally Posted by 409gary
Thanks for the advice. It seems quite logical.
Handy guide:


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Thanks for the chart. I find it very helpful.
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I have always had great results with their products.. use quite a few of them
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Used everything……Wolfgang at top.
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I did not have great luck with Wolfgang sealant. I have used their Uber rinseless wash which works well. I had better luck using Blackfire sealant. it seemed to last longer.for me.
Sealant goes under wax. as stated above.
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Used Wolfgang products for years and have always had good results with them.
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That chart is good for people new to this.

Just one thing, though, don't use glaze! Horrible horrible glaze! Devil Glaze! Anything with fillers in it sucks.

Glaze under a ceramic coating would be bad news too.
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I have a Ceramic knife.. I used it on top of a glazed doughnut.. seemed okay
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Just one thing, though, don't use glaze! Horrible horrible glaze! Devil Glaze! Anything with fillers in it sucks.

Glaze under a ceramic coating would be bad news too.
Agreed with skipping glaze under a ceramic coating.

Under a wax or sealant, however, glazes can be great. Many modern glazes are acrylic-based, and bond pretty well to the bare paint. I have been using the popular Poorboy's World "Black Hole" glaze under the wax on my C5Z, and the results are pretty fantastic. Despite my paint being perfectly corrected and jeweled and not needing any "filler", the acrylic glaze still will help fill in anything approaching microscopic levels of unevenness in the surface that I couldn't achieve with jeweling. It seems to be at least as durable as whatever wax I am using. Not something I would use if trying to get any kind of durability out of my protection, of course. I use it for appearance benefit only, and generally only with metallic paint or darker colors.

The term "glaze" is thrown around too often for different products, too. For example, some manufacturers call their fine finishing polishes "glaze", but most traditional glazes don't offer any corrective properties. It can get confusing for anyone unfamiliar with the products.
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Under a wax or sealant, however, glazes can be great. Many modern glazes are acrylic-based, and bond pretty well to the bare paint. I have been using the popular Poorboy's World "Black Hole" glaze under the wax on my C5Z, and the results are pretty fantastic. Despite my paint being perfectly corrected and jeweled and not needing any "filler", the acrylic glaze still will help fill in anything approaching microscopic levels of unevenness in the surface that I couldn't achieve with jeweling. It seems to be at least as durable as whatever wax I am using. Not something I would use if trying to get any kind of durability out of my protection, of course. I use it for appearance benefit only, and generally only with metallic paint or darker colors.

The term "glaze" is thrown around too often for different products, too. For example, some manufacturers call their fine finishing polishes "glaze", but most traditional glazes don't offer any corrective properties. It can get confusing for anyone unfamiliar with the products.
Yea, that's fair. What I hate about glaze is that it will hide defects for a short amount of time and then they will come back. As long as you're using polishes with no fillers so you can assess whether you've actually gotten all the swirls out, THEN use glaze, it shouldn't be a problem.

Agree about the terminology in the industry too.
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Originally Posted by endus
As long as you're using polishes with no fillers so you can assess whether you've actually gotten all the swirls out, THEN use glaze
100% this.
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Originally Posted by endus
Just one thing, though, don't use glaze! Horrible horrible glaze! Devil Glaze! Anything with fillers in it sucks.

Glaze under a ceramic coating would be bad news too.
Poor glaze...always getting such a bad rap.

Glaze doesn't have to be a dirty word w/ regards to car care. Not everyone wants (or needs) to go full on paint correction and given how 50% of Corvettes are likely used (that is on nice days only) a glaze to 'hide' very light defects is less detrimental to the overall integrity of the paint that yearly corrections/light polishes. A glaze in those situations works pretty well, even moreso for the "My car has never seen water, even from a hose or wash bucket" contingent.

Lotsa appropriate scenarios for a glaze...

As for a glaze with a ceramic, well...

What is CarPro Essence if not a finishing polish AND a glaze, designed for use as a base for their ceramic coatings. Despite the fact that they list one of the benefits as "...semi-permanent fillers" it has been labeled a primer, possibly to avoid the 'unclean' association with glazes. Skip that last pass with a finer polish if this has done the job? A glaze hiding under a different label?

Their Essence Plus product 'repairs' coatings via a "non-abrasive solution to partially repair fine swirls" which I'd guess is filling them as well...how very glaze-like! Maybe helps eek out a bit more life from that aging coating?

Kamikaze has Amazing Glaze which can be used before applying their ceramic coatings. Not everyone wants (or needs) to polish the paint prior to coating and this product applied by hand can apparently fill/hide some level of very light defects as well as cleaning the surface a bit. Handy for Paint Protection Film when you need a bit of cleaning before re-coating I would think.

Enjoy glaze, embrace glaze & celebrate glaze where appropriate!



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Originally Posted by FYRARMS
Agreed with skipping glaze under a ceramic coating.

Under a wax or sealant, however, glazes can be great. Many modern glazes are acrylic-based, and bond pretty well to the bare paint. I have been using the popular Poorboy's World "Black Hole" glaze under the wax on my C5Z, and the results are pretty fantastic. Despite my paint being perfectly corrected and jeweled and not needing any "filler", the acrylic glaze still will help fill in anything approaching microscopic levels of unevenness in the surface that I couldn't achieve with jeweling. It seems to be at least as durable as whatever wax I am using. Not something I would use if trying to get any kind of durability out of my protection, of course. I use it for appearance benefit only, and generally only with metallic paint or darker colors.

The term "glaze" is thrown around too often for different products, too. For example, some manufacturers call their fine finishing polishes "glaze", but most traditional glazes don't offer any corrective properties. It can get confusing for anyone unfamiliar with the products.
Poor Boys has a version of the Black Hole Glaze for light colored paint as well. called "White Diamond." How do you think this would be on Jet Stream Blue and what polish would you recommend to use first? Thank you in advance...

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