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Old 01-16-2003, 02:15 PM   #1
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I am thinking of using a velcro backed Lambs Wool pad on my P/C random orbital for removal of acid rain etching. Along with 3M Perfect It II 39002 or 3. Then follow up with 3M 39009 and probably finish with the 3M Imperial Glaze or Griots fine polish. Both on foam pads.

What do you think? Would it cut too deeply and create more swirls than it's worth? Or should I just stick with the foam pads?

I understand that less is better when dealing with our less then awesome Vette paint but the foam pads along with 3M 39009 Swirl Remover and the Griots polishes don't seem to cut it. Maybe I should just give it several more applications of the 39009?

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Old 01-16-2003, 02:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: Lambs Wool polishing pad ??? (MySea5)

I am thinking of using a velcro backed Lambs Wool pad on my P/C random orbital for removal of acid rain etching.
I have never used a Lambs Wool pad on a RO buffer. However, (and I am just visualizing this) what you many encounter is the product loading up in the knap of the wool. With a rotary buffer the Lambs Wool pads seem to offer greater cutting action but on a RO buffer I am not sure if that could be accomplished. With a rotary or RO buffer and a foam pad there is no loading problems. I just don't know that you'll see the level of cutting action it appears you are expecting.

Along with 3M Perfect It II 39002 or 3. Then follow up with 3M 39009 and probably finish with the 3M Imperial Glaze or Griots fine polish. Both on foam pads.
No problem on the product selection.

What do you think? Would it cut too deeply and create more swirls than it's worth? Or should I just stick with the foam pads?

I understand that less is better when dealing with our less then awesome Vette paint but the foam pads along with 3M 39009 Swirl Remover and the Griots polishes don't seem to cut it. Maybe I should just give it several more applications of the 39009?
Yes, patience is not included in the bottles. :D Just take your time, let the product do its job.


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Old 01-16-2003, 03:57 PM   #3
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Default Re: Lambs Wool polishing pad ??? (DetailingDude)

I was kinda thinking the same with the wool pad. Think I'll test on my dark blue beater first and keep the rake and a bottle of water handy.

Yes, patience is not included in the bottles

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Old 01-16-2003, 07:10 PM   #4
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I've never used one, but from what I understand of wool pads is that they are the most aggressive ones. I'd be very careful and be sure try my other options first - i.e. yellow (less aggressive than wool but more so than white) or white (least aggressive pads).
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Old 01-16-2003, 10:24 PM   #5
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There is a difference between "wool" pads.

A "cutting pad", the old white wool, is a wool yarn pad, the sheep is sheared, the wool is processed and twisted into a "yarn".

This is then "bonded" to a "backing plate" and while it will "cut" imperfections from the paint film, will be very agressive and leave "micro-marring" of the paint film, wether a clearcoat or a non clear.

It is then necessary to use a polishing pad, either a "lambs wool" or "foam" to remove the micro-mars created.

A "lamb's wool", is not a yarn type pad, but is the actual hide of the sheep, it is treated with a "tanic process" and becomes a "polishing pad".

The concern is the new high solid clear's, easily accept micro-marring, (the correct term for swirls, spider webbing, etc, which are not deep into the paint films substrate.

Neither a "yarn" or "lambs" wool pad were developed for use with a dual action buffer, such as a PorterCable or an orbital.

They are for use with a "rotary" type buffer.

While some may attain some level of micro-mar removal, the time required is excessively time consuming for a professional detailer.

They will use today, the educated ones. a "blended wool/acrylic" type pad to "cut" the deeper scratches from the substrate, and then follow up with either a "lambs wool" polishing pad or a "foam" pad.

On darker colored vehicles, we teach to use the "lambs wool" and then using the same polishing material, to re-polish using a "foam" pad.

There is much more to this, technique, speeds, understanding the chemistry of today's high solid clears, etc, but that is the basic's of using pads.

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Old 01-17-2003, 06:51 PM   #6
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Ah, a good demonstration of the kind of knowledge one should possess before going around and trying to publish a detailing guide, let alone a bible.

Good stuff Ketch. :thumbs:
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