Water Ban - Waterless Wash? Car Wash?
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Water Ban - Waterless Wash? Car Wash?
My C8 has always been hand washed; foam gun, 3 bucket wash, etc. Ceramic coating has been applied professionally. A complete water ban has been declared in my town. The car doesn't get very dirty as it is garaged. I only see three alternatives.
1) Waterless wash makes me nervous the car will get scratched. Thoughts on this? It only takes one swipe to screw up the paint job.
2) Take the car to a car wash that has the wand and the customer walks around the car. Thoughts on this? Harsh detergent?
3) Do nothing.
Thanks.
1) Waterless wash makes me nervous the car will get scratched. Thoughts on this? It only takes one swipe to screw up the paint job.
2) Take the car to a car wash that has the wand and the customer walks around the car. Thoughts on this? Harsh detergent?
3) Do nothing.
Thanks.
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Option #4 - Break the Law.... You can easily wash your car with less than 10 gallons of water. Doing a load of laundry typically uses around 20 gallons - same thing for taking a shower.
I'll bet that things like doing laundry / showering etc. weren't covered in the town's ban... Wouldn't it be nice if they just said every house gets say 50 gallons of water use a day - use more and you get fined (with the fines going up progressively as the usage exceeds the limits - with doubling the limit resulting in a 2 month water shut off) - you figure out how you want to use the water to meet the requirements.
As for your three "legal" choices - most of the car washes use recycled water for applying the soap - and YES - the detergents HAVE to be very strong to remove dirt without any actual agitation. I believe the rinse water used in most of these facilities is typically fresh water (remember - it's not OK for you to use water to wash your car - but it's fine for the car wash to use water to rinse off your car.......) I'm not a fan of these places for normal car washing - but I have de-greased a few engines in these self service car washes.
If the car is not too too dirty - I've used the spray on waterless washes before, and they seem to be "OK" for very very light cleaning. (Ever watch Barrett Jackson or Mecum auctions - and seen the "detailers" who clean up the cars a few feet before they hit the auction block - they are using the waterless detail sprays....) Personally - I far prefer using a foam cannon - and rinsing the car off, and it's possible I might have utilized option #4 a few years back.....
I'll bet that things like doing laundry / showering etc. weren't covered in the town's ban... Wouldn't it be nice if they just said every house gets say 50 gallons of water use a day - use more and you get fined (with the fines going up progressively as the usage exceeds the limits - with doubling the limit resulting in a 2 month water shut off) - you figure out how you want to use the water to meet the requirements.
As for your three "legal" choices - most of the car washes use recycled water for applying the soap - and YES - the detergents HAVE to be very strong to remove dirt without any actual agitation. I believe the rinse water used in most of these facilities is typically fresh water (remember - it's not OK for you to use water to wash your car - but it's fine for the car wash to use water to rinse off your car.......) I'm not a fan of these places for normal car washing - but I have de-greased a few engines in these self service car washes.
If the car is not too too dirty - I've used the spray on waterless washes before, and they seem to be "OK" for very very light cleaning. (Ever watch Barrett Jackson or Mecum auctions - and seen the "detailers" who clean up the cars a few feet before they hit the auction block - they are using the waterless detail sprays....) Personally - I far prefer using a foam cannon - and rinsing the car off, and it's possible I might have utilized option #4 a few years back.....
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Unfortunately with a water ban your choices are limited. I think I would try and find a self wash station that would allow you to use your own chemicals since what is in their sprayers is normally pretty harsh and may remove your wax or sealant.
one other option would be a rinseless wash. Still not as safe as a traditional wash but would be safer and offer more lubrication then waterless wash.
one other option would be a rinseless wash. Still not as safe as a traditional wash but would be safer and offer more lubrication then waterless wash.
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I had used ONR in 2 buckets with 2 gallons in each and now McKees 37 which I think is a tad slicker. I got these ideas here. Also when on the road I spot remove any bird crap or bugs and it works good also out of the spray bottle.
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Being in SoCal where water has been a constant issue the last 10 years, I recently switched to Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash. I've had zero issues with scratching, even on a very dirty truck that hadn't been washed in about a year. I used a good quality washing mitt with two grit guards in the bucket. I will say it is much easier to wash this way and if you include using Turtle Wax Wax 'n Dry, you end up eliminating several steps in the washing process.
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I had a similar conundrum a while back. I opted for your option 2 (use the local pay & spray), and then followed it up with a rinseless wash. Would either bring my bucket with rinseless wash and towels to the car wash place, or if it wasn’t too sunny, drive home with the car still wet and do a rinseless at home. Good luck with whatever you choose!
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I respect the reasons for water bans, there are certainly major drought problems in the country, but when I see businesses watering their grass, golf courses constantly watering, government buildings watering, swimming pools, etc. it makes it hard to respect a restriction that prevents me from washing my car on a reasonable frequency. Luckily things aren't that bad where i live.
Got a garage where you can wash it inside?
Not a believer in waterless washes myself.
Barring other less legal alternatives I would go to the spray wash at night when there is no one around to complain with all my wash stuff and just hand wash it there.
I respect the reasons for water bans, there are certainly major drought problems in the country, but when I see businesses watering their grass, golf courses constantly watering, government buildings watering, swimming pools, etc. it makes it hard to respect a restriction that prevents me from washing my car on a reasonable frequency. Luckily things aren't that bad where i live.
Got a garage where you can wash it inside?
Not a believer in waterless washes myself.
Barring other less legal alternatives I would go to the spray wash at night when there is no one around to complain with all my wash stuff and just hand wash it there.
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I respect the reasons for water bans, there are certainly major drought problems in the country, but when I see businesses watering their grass, golf courses constantly watering, government buildings watering, swimming pools, etc. it makes it hard to respect a restriction that prevents me from washing my car on a reasonable frequency. Luckily things aren't that bad where i live.
I respect the reasons for water bans, there are certainly major drought problems in the country, but when I see businesses watering their grass, golf courses constantly watering, government buildings watering, swimming pools, etc. it makes it hard to respect a restriction that prevents me from washing my car on a reasonable frequency. Luckily things aren't that bad where i live.
For the life of me - I can not understand how it's "Acceptable" to preclude a private citizen from washing their car - but to allow a Car Wash Business that uses "some" recycled water to continue to operate.
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I have a total outside water ban here, and I have a 'summer-only' car, just not a Corvette (yet). It's a driver but a nice one, abouit 11K miles a year, May through October. And it is constantly kept whistle-clean during the drought. My neighbors joke about it. They ask what it is (it's a Pontiac) and I tell them "old junk". But during the drought I keep the car clean two ways, and I have a large, rotating supply of microfibers of various softness, my faves are the three at 3x2 for drying that have different nap on each side. Bigger than that isn't worth it in my opinion. The caveat is I know I'll also need to have the car buffed by a pro this fall before storage, as I cannot do as good a job as I normally do and yup, I have some very shallow scratches now, about two dozen. That's a real "it'll buff out" and I can't get too upset about this first-world problem no matter how much I'd prefer to not have the problem.
1) Every week or so I go to the do-it-yourself place at dusk. They recycle the water to the extent that the town (different town same watershed) allows it. Like others here, I don;t get it; they are wasting water too. I guess they pays their taxes and gets their perks. But I pop 10 bucks into the machine. I have a bucket, my car wash soap, and my dedicated wash sponge with the lil tentacles. I rinse the car well and then wash. The bucket's to immerse the sponge about a third of the way only. An employee complained. I told him my money, my time is still on the counter, complain when I'm not paying. Now, I would prefer two buckets and a screen of course but the car's a two seater and the trunk is for the roof so that's not so easy. But I can do that all in about 10 minuets, the car is small. As always, teh sponge does the work, not my muscles. I'll get any tar bugs etc off after. Then I park in the shade and dry, and use the product I need for bugs etc, and I use spray wax. I still like Mother's better than the Turtle wax in this regard but the TW is good.
2) Every morning I get up 10 minutes early (so about 4:20am) so I can have time to spray the car with Turtle Wax Ceramic 3 in 1 Detailer. I've had the same bottle for about 7 weeks. Cheap enough, really easy, and fast. I am actually impressed with the product overall, it's the best spray detailer I've ever used. They say you can use it on glass...I tried it, it's OK for glass but not impressive in my opinion.
Now, when I get my C2....it will not be getting washed by dousing the car with gallons of water. But I think it's very possible to keep paint damage to a minimum and stilll keep the car clean as a new pin and dry.
1) Every week or so I go to the do-it-yourself place at dusk. They recycle the water to the extent that the town (different town same watershed) allows it. Like others here, I don;t get it; they are wasting water too. I guess they pays their taxes and gets their perks. But I pop 10 bucks into the machine. I have a bucket, my car wash soap, and my dedicated wash sponge with the lil tentacles. I rinse the car well and then wash. The bucket's to immerse the sponge about a third of the way only. An employee complained. I told him my money, my time is still on the counter, complain when I'm not paying. Now, I would prefer two buckets and a screen of course but the car's a two seater and the trunk is for the roof so that's not so easy. But I can do that all in about 10 minuets, the car is small. As always, teh sponge does the work, not my muscles. I'll get any tar bugs etc off after. Then I park in the shade and dry, and use the product I need for bugs etc, and I use spray wax. I still like Mother's better than the Turtle wax in this regard but the TW is good.
2) Every morning I get up 10 minutes early (so about 4:20am) so I can have time to spray the car with Turtle Wax Ceramic 3 in 1 Detailer. I've had the same bottle for about 7 weeks. Cheap enough, really easy, and fast. I am actually impressed with the product overall, it's the best spray detailer I've ever used. They say you can use it on glass...I tried it, it's OK for glass but not impressive in my opinion.
Now, when I get my C2....it will not be getting washed by dousing the car with gallons of water. But I think it's very possible to keep paint damage to a minimum and stilll keep the car clean as a new pin and dry.
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I myself, and some others have had excellent experiences with. I keep a few gallon water jugs of it mixed up all the time...
WOLFGANG CONCOURS SERIES WG-1650 Uber SiO2 Rinseless Wash
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SFPHKGX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF 8&psc=1
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ONR user here. In AZ dust is what you battle.
One gallon of softened water with ONR, fluffy 16” microfiber, spray bottle of ONR diluted to prime a panel, Griots Spray n Wax to spray on before wiping off with a PFM.
I can detail a C7 in 30 minutes.
One gallon of softened water with ONR, fluffy 16” microfiber, spray bottle of ONR diluted to prime a panel, Griots Spray n Wax to spray on before wiping off with a PFM.
I can detail a C7 in 30 minutes.
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I myself, and some others have had excellent experiences with. I keep a few gallon water jugs of it mixed up all the time...
WOLFGANG CONCOURS SERIES WG-1650 Uber SiO2 Rinseless Wash
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SFPHKGX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF 8&psc=1
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My C8 has always been hand washed; foam gun, 3 bucket wash, etc. Ceramic coating has been applied professionally. A complete water ban has been declared in my town. The car doesn't get very dirty as it is garaged. I only see three alternatives.
1) Waterless wash makes me nervous the car will get scratched. Thoughts on this? It only takes one swipe to screw up the paint job.
2) Take the car to a car wash that has the wand and the customer walks around the car. Thoughts on this? Harsh detergent?
3) Do nothing.
Thanks.
1) Waterless wash makes me nervous the car will get scratched. Thoughts on this? It only takes one swipe to screw up the paint job.
2) Take the car to a car wash that has the wand and the customer walks around the car. Thoughts on this? Harsh detergent?
3) Do nothing.
Thanks.
Works real good, shiny as a ****
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uses lot's of microfibers when you use rinseless, just a tip
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Yes. I love these and pick them up either through here or AutoGeek with coupons. My favorite microfiber for sure. I use to think microfiber is microfiber, and any parts store is good. Now, I believe I know better.