Black 'Vette owners what's the best "Black Wax"
#122
Drifting
Thread Starter
That's understandable, as they don't really have a large distribution network. If you remember the old, arm busting, Simoniz paste wax, you'll have a feel for the original Collinite paste wax. The only difference between the two, is Collinite was a little easier to buff off. Too bad we didn't have microfiber polishing cloths back then...
#123
Former Vendor
Older sealants were often called plastic looking as if you placed a baggie over your car. With modern polymers and glossing agents they now look very rich and glossy and often a bit more reflective than a traditional wax. I suspect you might like Blackfire, Rejex, my personal favorite Four Star UPP. One bottle will last many years and thin is in when applying them.
You will still want and need to wash and dry the car on a normal basis. In light situations you could use a rinseless wash versus traditional hose and bucket washing. Just remember to use good and safe advice to keep any swirls or marring away from your paint. Most products also offer a booster spray which simply revives the look of that just waxed look whenever wanted. Best part, they take less than 10 minutes for the whole car and most wont break a sweat. (spritz, buff)
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Before I can do anything I have to polish up the paint to get the swirls out. Plus the rocker panels need to be repainted. I'm going to get a polisher and start working on it.
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
#125
Drifting
Thread Starter
No one product is a miracle, true car care is about specializing each step to be the best. Once the "prep" (wash, clay, polish) is done you protect the finish and the work. You have three main choices. Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings. A sealant bonds to a finish and is a synthetic wax. It does not have the oils in it of a traditional wax. It should not capture and hold as much dirt but will get dirty just like any and every car. Sealants use glossing agents to mimic the wetness and oils of a wax.
Older sealants were often called plastic looking as if you placed a baggie over your car. With modern polymers and glossing agents they now look very rich and glossy and often a bit more reflective than a traditional wax. I suspect you might like Blackfire, Rejex, my personal favorite Four Star UPP. One bottle will last many years and thin is in when applying them.
You will still want and need to wash and dry the car on a normal basis. In light situations you could use a rinseless wash versus traditional hose and bucket washing. Just remember to use good and safe advice to keep any swirls or marring away from your paint. Most products also offer a booster spray which simply revives the look of that just waxed look whenever wanted. Best part, they take less than 10 minutes for the whole car and most wont break a sweat. (spritz, buff)
Older sealants were often called plastic looking as if you placed a baggie over your car. With modern polymers and glossing agents they now look very rich and glossy and often a bit more reflective than a traditional wax. I suspect you might like Blackfire, Rejex, my personal favorite Four Star UPP. One bottle will last many years and thin is in when applying them.
You will still want and need to wash and dry the car on a normal basis. In light situations you could use a rinseless wash versus traditional hose and bucket washing. Just remember to use good and safe advice to keep any swirls or marring away from your paint. Most products also offer a booster spray which simply revives the look of that just waxed look whenever wanted. Best part, they take less than 10 minutes for the whole car and most wont break a sweat. (spritz, buff)
#126
Instructor
OP, lots of posts here have hashed out what is what. Don't think you can't learn to polish the car yourself. You don't have to spend a fortune, and if you allow yourself the time, you can get great results.
I'm an analyst, not a detailer, here is the driver side door for my black vette.
I would also go with the sealant route in your situation, but you could even top that with a nice carnauba wax when you want a little more depth.
I'm an analyst, not a detailer, here is the driver side door for my black vette.
I would also go with the sealant route in your situation, but you could even top that with a nice carnauba wax when you want a little more depth.
#128
Corvette Forum Members Weigh in on What’s the Best Wax for Black
Talk to anyone who owns a black car, and they'll tell you that behind every good shine is the pain you go through to keep that thing pristine.
Corvettes are certainly no different other than the fact that most who own one typically have a reason to go to greater lengths to keep that baby polished because true stars like the 'Vette deserve more attention.
However, there seems to be a looming question on a Corvette Forum thread of exactly what’s the best wax for the job when it comes to shining her up and protecting that black paint.
Read the rest on the Corvette Forum homepage.
#130
I have used Zanio and Adams on my Black 09 Z06. Here is my cut, Zanio last much longer, Adams looks a little better. On a driver I would use Zanio. On a show car I would use Adams.
Adams offers a wheel scrubber you attach to a cordless drill and their glass and glass towel are without equal. I only use Zanio towels.
Adams offers a wheel scrubber you attach to a cordless drill and their glass and glass towel are without equal. I only use Zanio towels.
#131
Melting Slicks
The truth of the matter is 90% + of your finished result has very little to do with your choice of wax. Its the prep work that actually dictates how your paint will look, the last coating of wax, sealant, or whatever you prefer is only going to enhance whats already there.
Spread the worlds most expensive wax over poorly prepped paint and you'll get poor results.
Spread cheap wax over well prepped paint and the paint will look fantastic.
1) Proper decontamination (clay, clay media, decon sprays)
2) Paint correction to remove swirls and scratches.
3) Polishing to refine the finish and bring out the gloss.
Those 3 things will have more to do with your finished product than any wax could possibly.
Spread the worlds most expensive wax over poorly prepped paint and you'll get poor results.
Spread cheap wax over well prepped paint and the paint will look fantastic.
1) Proper decontamination (clay, clay media, decon sprays)
2) Paint correction to remove swirls and scratches.
3) Polishing to refine the finish and bring out the gloss.
Those 3 things will have more to do with your finished product than any wax could possibly.
I swore by Mother's products (Showtime, etc.,.) but now I use JET BLACK.
............and I'm not a paid touter either.
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#133
Team Owner
#134
Melting Slicks
This is basically the Porter Cable with Harbor freight name on it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-va...her-69924.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-va...her-69924.html
#135
Drifting
Thread Starter
.........and want to point out one of the most important factors (based on my 40 years of experience).........THE LESS CONTACT YOU HAVE WITH THE PAINT THE BETTER AND LONGER LASTING IT WILL LOOK.................
I swore by Mother's products (Showtime, etc.,.) but now I use JET BLACK.
............and I'm not a paid touter either.
I swore by Mother's products (Showtime, etc.,.) but now I use JET BLACK.
............and I'm not a paid touter either.
still waiting for my Zaino to arrive, surprised my paint looks pretty decent with nothing on it just clayed..my hood is the worst part on my car, I'll try the Zaino prep step by hand, if I'm not satisfied I got a pal with a buffer and that'll be the next move. Then it's finish time.
#137
Drifting
Nice.
Even nicer!
This is basically the Porter Cable with Harbor freight name on it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-va...her-69924.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-va...her-69924.html
#138
Anything with oils in their wax or petro-chemicals are to be avoided.
Two reasons, actually three is why I avoid them:
*Oil attracts and holds dirt, oil does not breathe, and the petro-chemical fumes play havoc with your lungs while using them.
For these reasons, I searched and found a product line named WIZARDS and have been using it exclusively for years.
Their Mist N Shine I swear by.
Highest shine you can get, no oily wax or petro-chemicals. Takes like 3 to 5 minutes tops to Mist N Shine your car. Works on glass and plastic/chrome metal too.
Not naming names, but the leading marketers sold in the mass marketers /AutoZone, etc. (we all know them) ALL have either oil or petro-chemicals in their formulations. Why? Because oil is cheap=higher profit margins. Hi-tech products cost money.
Start reading labels - avoid the oil.
Two reasons, actually three is why I avoid them:
*Oil attracts and holds dirt, oil does not breathe, and the petro-chemical fumes play havoc with your lungs while using them.
For these reasons, I searched and found a product line named WIZARDS and have been using it exclusively for years.
Their Mist N Shine I swear by.
Highest shine you can get, no oily wax or petro-chemicals. Takes like 3 to 5 minutes tops to Mist N Shine your car. Works on glass and plastic/chrome metal too.
Not naming names, but the leading marketers sold in the mass marketers /AutoZone, etc. (we all know them) ALL have either oil or petro-chemicals in their formulations. Why? Because oil is cheap=higher profit margins. Hi-tech products cost money.
Start reading labels - avoid the oil.
#140
Former Vendor
Great thing, they all use the same accessories and pads. This way you can add to your collection and upgrade your machine when wanted.
http://www.autogeek.net/bupo.html