Stan MI

Blackfire Wet Diamond. On and Off, less than 45 and lasts and lasts !!

mvcrash

Your kidding?.....

Stan MI

I know what you mean but this guy is fairly new here so you might want to qualify that statement.

0zoomzoom mazda5@properautocare.com

, with so many products out there and what one's eyes can see OTC and vendors products work well for everyone. The number one factor is the Prep work to bring that look your looking for. I go with Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection as my sealant of choice then if I want the most durable wax for the price, then Colinite paste wax is the one. Another one is Meguiar's No 21 top off with No 26 wax which is another great combo. One more thing if you want to boost the shine and create even more protection than what this one product already offers, you should consider adding Polycharger®. Polycharger is the world's first Wax Booster™ supercharging your liquid wax, sealant, and quick detail spray to provide more shine and longer durability with just a few drops. But remember it all about taking care of your ride and making you the owner very happy in the long run.

Onyasix

First, no pure waxes or polishes alone will remove your scratches. At best they will only cover up the scratches and make them less noticeable. To remove the scratches you will need a polish with abrasives and the amount of abrasives (cut) needed depends on the depth of the scratches. If scratches are deeper than your clear coat, you are out of luck on removing them.

Our Vettes have a hard (but thin) clean coat, so removing scratches by hand may be very challenging to say the least. You mentioned that you have an orbital buffer. Orbital buffers vary in performance, so the amount of worked required for any particular job will vary accordingly.

I have a Flex XC 3401 and use Menzerna polishes to remove scratches. I am pleased with both products. You need to match the right polishing pad with the appropriate polish (cut) to meet the job at hand (severity of the scratches). It is best/safer to start with low abrasives (less cut) to meet the task.

Once the scratches are moved, use a good sealant/polish to protect the paint/clear coat. I use Zaino products at this point. I may use Z-PC (by machine) to remove any minor swirls marks. Next, Z-5 Pro. Z-5 is an excellent sealant/polish with additives to cover very minor scratches/swirl marks. I recommend a minimum of two layers of Z-5, preceded by a minimum of one layer of Z-2 Pro. This should give you an excellent foundation/protection/shine for adding more layers of Z-2 or Z-5 or your favorite wax.

Sidebar: When applying Z-polishes, it is best to apply Z-6 spray between layers and finish off with Z-8 spray. For added protection you may want to put a final coat of Z-CS Clear Seal.

Using Zaino products can be as simple as one application of Z-AIO to multi-layering with Z-2 and Z-5. I go simple with my daily driver and go all the way with my Vette.

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

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nch209

Well, I am on my first black vehicle. To say it takes more work is an understatement. I have been using Zaino on an OK finish, and the results were excellent. On my last vette (Yellow) you could be much more lax and get good results... not with black!

I am going to attack this car with a different approach. I am using menzerna products to buff then polish, a few coats of zaino, topped off with souveran wax. I think souveran is right up my alley, as its ok on my budget vs somthing like swissvax, and I am OK with reapplying it since it will not last like zaino does.

This is the plan, and as mentioned, prep is the most important part. No real sense in stacking waxes over imperfections. When you see a car done properly, black, it really looks awesome!

To your question though- start searching this and other detailing forums. EVERYONE IS RIGHT ALL THE TIME! LOL!!! Jokes aside, nobody will like exactly what YOU do, but do your research and learn and try some things! You will find what works for you.

Ok, now what is the best MOTOR OIL??? <smile>

agentf1

If you want that little extra pop I would top my Zaino with CS/Z8 or at the very least Z8. I have experimented with nuba toppers on Zaino and have found that they really do not add anything extra in my opinion especially when you have a perfect finish. I really did not see any difference between a Z8 topper and a PS topper and if I stick withing the system I do not need to worry about removing wax before applying additional layers or my Zaino bonding properly. The other issue I had was the nuba's tend to sweat on a black car when out in the sun and heat giving me a very hazy finish. Sweating is when the oils from the nuba come to the surface from excessive heat. I have also found that most high quality nuba's tend to sweat when out in the sun on dark colored cars. JMHO

nch209

Thanks to the above tip. I'm still researching and deciding- but I'm gonna try souveran atop for myself and see. This stuff goes so far, I will be just out time.

I guess I am not much of a quick detailer/spray kind of a dude. I find myself adding zaino z5/2 after washes anyhow in place of quick sprays, and with souveran on/off I'm thinking it may suit me well. If it sweets and hazes, thats another story!!!

capevettes

As others have said, it's all about proper preparation. But, Zaino is my favorite after trying everything else

mvcrash

Been a long time since a thread with this topic stayed civil. I am glad it did and also glad I did not close it.

As usual, thanks to all who posted the great information.

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

Weve done a little something special this holiday season for those of you all that prefer to use the Pinnacle line of products. Nothing like ivory carnauba products to set off your Vette and its been a long time favorite show winner too. Happy BOGO !!

http://www.autogeek.net/buy-one-get-one-free.html

blackmachdown

souveran shouldn't haze up on you, that wax is made for ham fisted goons like me (easy to apply easy to take off).

vettluver

Great deal on this stuff...very happy with Souveran although this is the first pure carnauba wax I've ever used.

TysonJones

1. Wash
2. Dry
3. 2 coats of Rejex
4. 1 coat of carnauba wax of your choice (preferably pinnacle or meguiars)
5. Sit back and enjoy the results

TOPCATHR

Collinite 845

duragloss 105

also duragloss makes the best car wash i use it in my foam gun 2 oz tons of foam