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Old 03-14-2009, 12:37 AM   #1
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I am more of a "Driver" than a "Waxer"

I do performance mods on my car, and autocross and drag race it. I drive it hard, and It has sit outside, Uncovered for the last few months (i didnt have facilities available to clean it properly, and didn't want to put my car cover on a dirty car.

I plan on taking a weekend to detail it next weekend. I also plan on wetsanding it because it has some pretty bad swirl marks. Car is a 2000 Torch red.

My normal process is washing with dishsoap to degrease, and McGuire's 3 step wax process. I know its not the best, but I've been happy with it. Last Time i detailed, last spring I think I claybard the car and was happy with the outcome.

So I plan on :
Stripping wax and washing
CLaybaring
Wetsanding
Polishing
Waxing

Is this the proper order? How do you properly wetsand? Any recommendations for products (I've seen swirl remover at my local auto parts store)

I understand that I am very JV here and I'm asking the varsity guys the questions, so go easy on me. And base your recommendations on what can be found at a local autoparts store, I don't have the ability to order stuff online due to my current living situation (Marine Corps Base Mail system is less than desirable)
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:49 AM   #2
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Usually wet sanding is used for only the most serious of defects. You really need to know what your doing when wet sanding.

If you are only looking to remove some swirls marks I think that you would be better off starting out with a much less agresive approach.
Of course without seeing your car it is very hard to recomend how and what should be done. Could you post some pictures for us to see?
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Usually wet sanding is used for only the most serious of defects. You really need to know what your doing when wet sanding.

If you are only looking to remove some swirls marks I think that you would be better off starting out with a much less agresive approach.
Of course without seeing your car it is very hard to recomend how and what should be done. Could you post some pictures for us to see?
I can, but its supposed to rain all weekend being that I am limited to work outside, I have to wait for nice weather. I will when I can. What is the proper wetsanding process?
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I can, but its supposed to rain all weekend being that I am limited to work outside, I have to wait for nice weather. I will when I can. What is the proper wetsanding process?
I'm a wknd warrior, detailing type, and thank you for all that you do so that we can enjoy what we do. I can't tell you the proper process for wetsanding as I would never try it myself, IMHO this is something that should be left to the pros. There are a lot of products that can provide good results and unless you really need wetsanding, I wouldn't go there. Throw some pics up of the worst areas and the pros here will be able to tell you what steps will need to be taken.
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DO NOT WETSAND YOUR CAR!!

Sorry but if you have to ask how to wetsand you should not even be thinking about wetsanding....seriously!

Based on your statements you are in no way qualified or experienced enough to do something so dramatic, you will really regret it. I'm saying this for your own good I promise.

Secondly you do not have to wetsand the car to remove swirl marks, sanding is mainly only to remove deeper scratches and relevel the orange peel ripple in the paint and should only be handled by an experienced professional.

You really can ruin your surface as well as damage the clear coat and cause premature failure which will result in your clear coat pealing away and exposing the paint to the elements which will fade and oxidize it. Your car will look like your skin peeling after a bad sunburn, I'm sure you've seen this on cars before.

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DO NOT WETSAND YOUR CAR!!

Sorry but if you have to ask how to wetsand you should not even be thinking about wetsanding....seriously!

Based on your statements you are in no way qualified or experienced enough to do something so dramatic, you will really regret it. I'm saying this for your own good I promise.

Secondly you do not have to wetsand the car to remove swirl marks, sanding is mainly only to remove deeper scratches and relevel the orange peel ripple in the paint and should only be handled by an experienced professional.

You really can ruin your surface as well as damage the clear coat and cause premature failure which will result in your clear coat pealing away and exposing the paint to the elements which will fade and oxidize it. Your car will look like your skin peeling after a bad sunburn, I'm sure you've seen this on cars before.

Josh
Wet sanding takes years and years of practice and is an art by itself. I would take the great advice posted above.
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:49 PM   #7
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In general .... wash --clay --- polish (this is area of concentration)--- protect

here are some hints:

http://www.autogeek.net/detailingtips.html

only allow professionals to wetsanding which would come prior to polishing as needed.
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Ok, got it. Thanks.
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DO NOT WETSAND YOUR CAR!!

Sorry but if you have to ask how to wetsand you should not even be thinking about wetsanding....seriously!

Based on your statements you are in no way qualified or experienced enough to do something so dramatic, you will really regret it. I'm saying this for your own good I promise.

Secondly you do not have to wetsand the car to remove swirl marks, sanding is mainly only to remove deeper scratches and relevel the orange peel ripple in the paint and should only be handled by an experienced professional.

You really can ruin your surface as well as damage the clear coat and cause premature failure which will result in your clear coat pealing away and exposing the paint to the elements which will fade and oxidize it. Your car will look like your skin peeling after a bad sunburn, I'm sure you've seen this on cars before.

Josh
great advise from a experienced professional
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