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Old 11-15-2001, 05:42 PM   #1
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Alright here's the deal which one of these hood pics looks better . One is zaino one is p21 s
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Old 11-15-2001, 06:03 PM   #2
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Please make them the same size.
Number two has more light to it than number one
(as far as the photograph goes, not the paint finish)

Look at the boards behind the car. Different light conditions.
No accurate comparison can be made.




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Old 11-15-2001, 07:17 PM   #3
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They both look great. But you should post two pictures the same size as Kale suggested. The second picture looks slightly better than the first in my opinion but that could change if you post two comparable size and lighting condition pictures.


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Old 11-15-2001, 10:00 PM   #4
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Ther ya go whataya think , Be honest . I'm not gonna say which one is zaino or not this is just to satisfy my curiosity .No worry's I'm not gonna say ha and bash the one you say doesn't look as nice . Just give an honest opinion . If you must know which one is which email me .thanks :cheers:
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Old 11-15-2001, 10:32 PM   #5
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The pictures aren't similar enough. I like #2 better. But #1 would shine just as well with a shadow over it, in the exact same exposure/light.
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Old 11-16-2001, 12:06 AM   #6
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Different angles and different times of day make both of them look the same to me, did you strip off the Zaino with an abrasive or isopropyl alcohol? If not the other product whatever was used would have the advantage of the Zaino base coat, this is true when carnauba's are put over a synthetic product. P21S has a very high silicone oil content, which means it will shine very well for a while, of course the higher the oil count means less durabilty, but if that is not a concern then there is no problem. To test the products equally side by side isopropyl alcohol half the car (it will not hurt the finish and I would be happy to help you) on the side you wipe down with alcohol apply the product your testing against Zaino, then you can see the two side by side top see what look you prefer, and as I always say use the product that you feel works best for your needs, because shine is Zaino's second best quality, I use it because it lasts. :) Call me if you want me to stop by and give you a hand Vic.
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Old 11-16-2001, 09:11 AM   #7
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I didn't use alcohol but i did clay the hood , and used p21s pre cleaner . I know that the zaino was gone by the way the water sat on the hood (also by the lack of surface contaminants). I just like diversity zaino here p21s there . They both have their ups . Thanks for the help offer . I may one day take you up on the offer though :cool: I'm still not gonna tell about which is which so vote away :yesnod:
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Old 11-16-2001, 09:26 AM   #8
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We can't cast a meaningful vote without having comparable photos. #2 looks better, but it isn't from the same angle with the same lighting as #1.
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Old 11-16-2001, 09:49 AM   #9
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Alright now i think this may give a better comparo (new pic)
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Old 11-16-2001, 11:16 AM   #10
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Personally, I can't tell the difference between a freshly waxed car and a 4week old application of Zaino. Like everyone else has said, pictures are too subjective. So to answer your question ... pic 2 :D
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Old 11-16-2001, 07:53 PM   #11
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Alright now it's two identical pics , it took a while but here it is now give me all your opinions
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Old 11-16-2001, 09:12 PM   #12
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You still can not tell anything from the pixs, the light was very different, I have a super sharp monitor and can see the digital grain, but no shine difference between the two pixs. Use what you feel looks better. :)
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Old 11-16-2001, 11:42 PM   #13
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If you're bored, try splitting the hood in half w/both items. Then take photos from straight ahead.

Someone did this earlier w/ zaino and maguires(?). But even this has limitations. Everything has to be looked at with a grain of salt.
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i say #1 is the zaino :p:
because in #2..the towel is still on the windshield.. if the windshield was zainoed.. it would have slid all the way down :p: heheh

cant really tell.. what we REALLY need is two cars, same color, same light, same back ground.. then you can REALLY tell whcih is better.. the lighting is different and the angle is slightly off..

and also.. zaino shine versus a ps412 (whatever) should look similar upon Fresh application.. but after a few weeks of THE ATMOSPHERE.. things would probably prove otherwise :)
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Old 11-17-2001, 12:02 AM   #15
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Even after the picture swap .... I still stand by my original statement :D


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Personally, I can't tell the difference between a freshly waxed car and a 4week old application of Zaino. Like everyone else has said, pictures are too subjective. So to answer your question ... pic 2 :D
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Old 11-17-2001, 05:37 AM   #16
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I don't think it's reall possible to pick out the subtle differences by looking at a photo on a moniter. You need to take a good look under sunlight, flourescent light, and natural light to really get a clue on how good paint really looks. The flourescent will highlight flaws and scratches, the bright sunlight will bring swirlmarks and rub marks into view, and the natural light kind of gives you an overview. They all look great at dusk though!
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Old 11-19-2001, 03:43 PM   #17
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I like number 1 better, but I belive that's because of the lighting and the angle. They both look VERY good. If I were you, I'd use both products and make the decision yourself. This will be VERY hard to get a solid opinion from the Forum. :D
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Old 11-19-2001, 08:52 PM   #18
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Please make them the same size.
Number two has more light to it than number one
(as far as the photograph goes, not the paint finish)

Look at the boards behind the car. Different light conditions.
No accurate comparison can be made.


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Yea exactly what I was thinking.
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Old 12-11-2001, 02:18 PM   #19
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First, impossible to say without exactly the same lighting conditions.

Second, IMHO many waxes/polished have similar shine after intial application. I, frankly, can't see a difference. But, in the durability department, I have yet to find a match for Zaino. While I have rug rats to chase, I'll stick with the one with excellent shine and excellent durability.
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I think #1 looks oilyer (sp) ie P21s
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