Multiple coats

[RUNNINGMAN 1]

Want your opinions I talked to a mequiars rep the other nite and he explained to me that it is better to add more coats of polish as opposed to wax because he said that wax will not bond to wax therefore after a second coat to make sure no spots were missed any more is a waste of product and time.What do ya think.And how much is enough polish come on all you show car guys.

[steve8]

I have done up to six coats of Zaino, 3 ea of Z5P and 3 Z2P.
The key is to put very thin coats on.
I do feel that it kept getting better although I know some will disagree.
It has also held up extremely well and looks great with just a wash and spritz of Z6 when drying.

[RUNNINGMAN 1]

Steve I am not familiar with Zaino and the numbers are you saying you would do 3 polish and 3 wax but intermittent?

[Humanoid 2.0]

With regards to NXT (from your other post), it does not layer. So doing more then one may just help if you missed a spot.

[BMWWW]

There's a post on autopia with regards to "Spit-shining" your car.

The theory would lead me to beleive that it work... The problem with a lot of waxes is that they have mild cleansers in them. With a wax/sealant with no cleaning properties, it should 'theoretically' be stackable via spitshining.

Good luck!

**Edit** Here it is, enjoy!
http://autopia.org/forum/hall-fame/3...ght=Spit+Shine

[Cole]

Originally Posted by steve8

I have done up to six coats of Zaino, 3 ea of Z5P and 3 Z2P.
The key is to put very thin coats on.
I do feel that it kept getting better although I know some will disagree.
It has also held up extremely well and looks great with just a wash and spritz of Z6 when drying.

Zaino is NOT wax. You can multilayer Zaino.

[Killrwheels@Autogeek]

A polish is an abrasive liquid used to remove defects. You would likely only want to use as much as needed to finish the car properly. Extra polishing is just removing small portions of clear or paint.

Now with synthetic paint sealants (sometimes called polishes incorrectly) and waxes there is a point of diminishing return. With a wax it is one to two coats. With a sealant it is likely very similar. You are likely wasting product more than building any real additional finish or durability. That said, do what you feel is correct. Its what makes you and your ride happy, not others !

[agentf1]

Originally Posted by Cole

Zaino is NOT wax. You can multilayer Zaino.

Zaino is not a wax and contains no abrasives or cleaners so it can be layered. It is also one of the few products that actually layer well IMHO.

[TOGWT]

Originally Posted by agentf1

Zaino is not a wax and contains no abrasives or cleaners so it can be layered. It is also one of the few products that actually layer well IMHO.

Wax- two coats to ensure even coverage (maximum is four) a wax cures (hardens when the solvents have evaporated ) usually 25-45 minuets then you can apply the second coat (ensure that there are no solvents left by doing a smear test otherwise the solvents in the second coat will remove the first) (See also Spit Shine)

Paste wax – use a low-solvent wax (Victoria Concours Wax, Souverän or P21S) is just a thicker form of liquid wax, just a different consistency, not necessarily more or less solvents. Some wax products use an emulsion to keep more liquid without adding solvents which, in high concentrations could remove the underlying wax too rapidly to allow the "melting" together of the wax" strata.

Polymers-
Polymer sealants can be layered provided the product is free of any active hydrocarbon solvents in the formula, which are utilised as the polymers carrier system that also acts as a surface (chemical) cleaner. This tends to re liquefy the preceding layer; it may not remove it completely but will certainly dissolve and remove a good percentage of it. The carrier system may also be in the form of a silicon oil / water emulsion, which then needs to dissipate and then cross-link.

To my knowledge, most polymer sealants are based on an emulsion system containing active hydrocarbon solvents. As a result, even the mildest petroleum distillates remove polymer sealants. Zaino Show Car Polish is the only polymer sealant that I'm aware of that is not based on the element silicone and can therefore be successfully layered (a new application of Zaino Show Car Polish does not remove previous applications).

Solvents / oils provide a lubricant and aid the adherence process by working their way into the microscopic gaps and valleys of the previous `layer' softening it, providing each subsequent applications carrying agent (solvent, oils silicones or emulsion) are not so concentrated that they degrade or remove (as in the case of a cleaner wax) what has been previously applied.

[steve8]

Originally Posted by RUNNINGMAN 1

Steve I am not familiar with Zaino and the numbers are you saying you would do 3 polish and 3 wax but intermittent?

On my recent "ultimate detail", I first polished with menzerna IP, followed by Zaino ZPC polish, each applied with a PC. This was done to remove minor swirls and to get back to as close to a perfect finish as possible.
Then I applied three coats each of Zaino sealant. Three Z5P and three Z2P.
Z6 in between coats, which is a quick detail spray.
I ended with the new ZCS topped with Z8.

[agentf1]

Originally Posted by steve8

On my recent "ultimate detail", I first polished with menzerna IP, followed by Zaino ZPC polish, each applied with a PC. This was done to remove minor swirls and to get back to as close to a perfect finish as possible.
Then I applied three coats each of Zaino sealant. Three Z5P and three Z2P.
Z6 in between coats, which is a quick detail spray.
I ended with the new ZCS topped with Z8.

Wow, going for the ULTIMATE shine, huh?

It must look AWESOME Steve.