What's a step More Aggressive than Menzerna IP?
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What's a step More Aggressive than Menzerna IP?
I tried MIP last spring and think it was not aggressive enough. I have somw swirls and light scratches to remove. I am using a PC DA polisher. This year I would like to go another step up. What suggestions are there for this? I would like to try something I can get locally (Megs, 3M, ...) if possible, this way if it does not work out, I can quickly and easily try something else.
I did a Meguires RX and it recommends the NEW formula ScratchX, but I have never heard of anyone having too much luck with that.
I did a Meguires RX and it recommends the NEW formula ScratchX, but I have never heard of anyone having too much luck with that.
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What pads are you using??
Menzerna also has a stronger compound called Power Gloss, effective for 1000-1200 grit sanding marks. I believe the IP is good for 2000 grit sanding marks.
Menzerna also has a stronger compound called Power Gloss, effective for 1000-1200 grit sanding marks. I believe the IP is good for 2000 grit sanding marks.
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Either Power Gloss or I would recommend 3M 06062. You really should be using a Rotary when you start using chemicals any stronger than IP since you really need the additional power to break down the abrasives and to burnish the finish properly.
Actually IP and a rotary should be all you need for most swirls. You would be surprised what I can remove with just my rotary and PO106FF.
Actually IP and a rotary should be all you need for most swirls. You would be surprised what I can remove with just my rotary and PO106FF.
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I might add a few things.
(1) Yes, speed things up quite a bit. I live around 5.
(2) Make certain that the polish is breaking down all the way. It should start to disappear and dust away. When it does that, it's time to wipe away.
(3) Sometimes you need to apply the polish multiple times. There are some spots where I've gone 4x with the MIP and orange pad. That's because...
(4) You might need to move to a more agressive pad! Moving to the yellow pads might make the difference you're looking for.
(1) Yes, speed things up quite a bit. I live around 5.
(2) Make certain that the polish is breaking down all the way. It should start to disappear and dust away. When it does that, it's time to wipe away.
(3) Sometimes you need to apply the polish multiple times. There are some spots where I've gone 4x with the MIP and orange pad. That's because...
(4) You might need to move to a more agressive pad! Moving to the yellow pads might make the difference you're looking for.
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I recently found a quite noticible difference between Menzerna's IP and their more agressive Ceramic Clear Coat polish. Awesome headway on my swirls with the latter (using PC7424, setting 3.5 - 4.0 using orange pad).
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I feel that a less abrasive compound utilized to its potential is probably superior than a more agressive compound used less intensely.
I would make the move the move to the Power Gloss only after I had not made decent headway after MIP with a yellow pad at 5 - 5.5.
I would make the move the move to the Power Gloss only after I had not made decent headway after MIP with a yellow pad at 5 - 5.5.
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I would not use power gloss or anything that heavy with a PC. The PC does not create the speed or heat required to break it down. What you will end up with is more micro marring.
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I agree. I also like 3M's compounds better than Power Gloss. I find they are just as aggressive and finish up much nicer than the PG. Of course this is with a rotary, I don't have much experience with compounds and a ROB.
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For the non-Pro without endless resources at home, I do think you should live by this rule: if MIP , orange pad speed 6 PC does not do it , move to rotary.
Rather than monkey around with yellow pads or more aggressive polishes, or even wet sanding -- all of which will produce more marring for you --- seriously, it is time to jump into the world of the rotary. You'll be SOOOOO glad once you have one and you see what it can do.
For some comments on rotary, see my web page click on "buffing". I love my Makita 9226 , and it cuts about 3/4 of the time off scratch removal compared to a PC.
Rather than monkey around with yellow pads or more aggressive polishes, or even wet sanding -- all of which will produce more marring for you --- seriously, it is time to jump into the world of the rotary. You'll be SOOOOO glad once you have one and you see what it can do.
For some comments on rotary, see my web page click on "buffing". I love my Makita 9226 , and it cuts about 3/4 of the time off scratch removal compared to a PC.
Last edited by bugman; 04-16-2007 at 02:22 AM.