Ive been out of the game for a while whats the best buffer these days..
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Ive been out of the game for a while whats the best buffer these days..
Ok I have been deployed alot in the past few years spent 3 years in japan before this war broke out well im finally to the stage where I can paint again, While painting is something I can do..
I need some advice from you fellas who have been usuing this stuff lately.
Im looking for a good buffer that I can use for buffing after painting and wet sanding I was thinking the dewalt 849
But if I get it what is the best pads and product to use on new paint??
Ive been told to stay away from the 3m stuff
I also have my toys that have been abused these past couple of years my black ZR1 has some deep old water spots from its previous owner and alot of scratches since I drive it everyday...
Im thinking a PC for these jobs but I dont want to buy 2 buffers....
also with the PC whats the best pads? wolfgang?
and products for scratches Im thinking seriously my DD is so bad I might just wet sand the entire car and buff it out to bring it back to life
thanks
johnny
I need some advice from you fellas who have been usuing this stuff lately.
Im looking for a good buffer that I can use for buffing after painting and wet sanding I was thinking the dewalt 849
But if I get it what is the best pads and product to use on new paint??
Ive been told to stay away from the 3m stuff
I also have my toys that have been abused these past couple of years my black ZR1 has some deep old water spots from its previous owner and alot of scratches since I drive it everyday...
Im thinking a PC for these jobs but I dont want to buy 2 buffers....
also with the PC whats the best pads? wolfgang?
and products for scratches Im thinking seriously my DD is so bad I might just wet sand the entire car and buff it out to bring it back to life
thanks
johnny
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Meguiars and Lake Country make the best pads. I also like the 3m waffle pads for my rotary.
The best PC is a Porter Cable 7336sp and my rotary is a Makita 9227. You really need both, a rotary for removing wet sanding marks and the PC is nice for the minor stuff and removing the holograms the rotary leaves if you are not careful.
Some great swirl removers are Zaino Fusion (ZPC), it works great by hand PC and with a rotary or Menzerna. I also like Chemical Guys polishes. For OTC polishes I also like 3m 39009 and 39002.
The best PC is a Porter Cable 7336sp and my rotary is a Makita 9227. You really need both, a rotary for removing wet sanding marks and the PC is nice for the minor stuff and removing the holograms the rotary leaves if you are not careful.
Some great swirl removers are Zaino Fusion (ZPC), it works great by hand PC and with a rotary or Menzerna. I also like Chemical Guys polishes. For OTC polishes I also like 3m 39009 and 39002.
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I use 3m stuff and never any problems, questions or doubts. The only downfall is the price, but for what I do it is money well spent. Any buffing, polish and waxing product is always up for debate.
Here is my Dewalt. I will have to run out in the garage to get the number if you need it. It has adjustable speed and is heavy. I use this for paint that has never seen wax and I use it on all color sanded paint jobs. Downfall! It will burn paint real fast.
This machine is the icing on the cake. Light and very easy to use. This will pay for itself the first time used. Unbelievable finish when all done.
These are the pads I use. White one is aggressive and use it with rubbing compounds and the greay one is used for polish and wax applications.
This stuff works for me. I would suggest looking at a few CF vendors product and hang out in this area. There are a few members that will post a few pics. Amazing is all I can say. Have fun.
Here is my Dewalt. I will have to run out in the garage to get the number if you need it. It has adjustable speed and is heavy. I use this for paint that has never seen wax and I use it on all color sanded paint jobs. Downfall! It will burn paint real fast.
This machine is the icing on the cake. Light and very easy to use. This will pay for itself the first time used. Unbelievable finish when all done.
These are the pads I use. White one is aggressive and use it with rubbing compounds and the greay one is used for polish and wax applications.
This stuff works for me. I would suggest looking at a few CF vendors product and hang out in this area. There are a few members that will post a few pics. Amazing is all I can say. Have fun.
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The DeWalt DW849 is a descendant of the great Black and Decker 6138. The 849 has become the de facto workhorse of the detailing business/hobby.
The Makita is an excellent machine, maybe a little easier to use with its bailing handle.
The Porter Cable 7428 has a nice feel but its not as powerful as the DW849 (I have both and rarely use the PC machine anymore).
Milwaukee make a heavy duty machine, stress on the "heavy". Long time Milwaukee fans will love it but the above machines are more comfy and prolly easier to use.
Metabo make an excellent polisher. It's main strength is its light weight as compared to the above machines. If I were detailing a lot of cars, I'd prolly spring for a Metabo just to make my life a little easier.
A D/A polisher is almost a must-have if you're gonna do a lot of work. The only real serious choice is the Porter Cable 7424 and its variant (7335, 7336, 7336SP). There are other D/A polisher/sanders out there but for car enthusiasts, the 7424 is the one and only.
As for pads, Lake Country Mfg has really taken the lead in foam pad technology and development. Many retailers resell LC pads under their own name. Meguiars pads are nice and they only offer 3 types of foam pads so the line is simple. 3M, Edge, Schlegel, etc all make good competitive products and are worth considering especially if you can get them locally.
The Makita is an excellent machine, maybe a little easier to use with its bailing handle.
The Porter Cable 7428 has a nice feel but its not as powerful as the DW849 (I have both and rarely use the PC machine anymore).
Milwaukee make a heavy duty machine, stress on the "heavy". Long time Milwaukee fans will love it but the above machines are more comfy and prolly easier to use.
Metabo make an excellent polisher. It's main strength is its light weight as compared to the above machines. If I were detailing a lot of cars, I'd prolly spring for a Metabo just to make my life a little easier.
A D/A polisher is almost a must-have if you're gonna do a lot of work. The only real serious choice is the Porter Cable 7424 and its variant (7335, 7336, 7336SP). There are other D/A polisher/sanders out there but for car enthusiasts, the 7424 is the one and only.
As for pads, Lake Country Mfg has really taken the lead in foam pad technology and development. Many retailers resell LC pads under their own name. Meguiars pads are nice and they only offer 3 types of foam pads so the line is simple. 3M, Edge, Schlegel, etc all make good competitive products and are worth considering especially if you can get them locally.
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Originally Posted by bigcypress
the war didn't "break out". i don't know what they told you in japan but mr. bush started it .
thanks for jumpin gin my thread without anything to help it theres a politics area for ****** like you
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In random orbitals, the PC 7424 and 7336 (same machine, different counterweights included only) are the most popular choice. The cyclo would be considered the extremist choice, but nowhere near as popular based on pricing. A Flexible backing plate is a welcome addition on these machines.
As for rotaries, the Makita and Dewalt are old favs. The Mateabo and Hitachi have made a name for themselves recently with bulletproof warranties (long term protection) and lighter units. A little more of a professional choice, these units correct minor damage quickly, but could be damaging in inexperienced hands.
In random orbitals, the PC 7424 and 7336 (same machine, different counterweights included only) are the most popular choice. The cyclo would be considered the extremist choice, but nowhere near as popular based on pricing. A Flexible backing plate is a welcome addition on these machines.
As for rotaries, the Makita and Dewalt are old favs. The Mateabo and Hitachi have made a name for themselves recently with bulletproof warranties (long term protection) and lighter units. A little more of a professional choice, these units correct minor damage quickly, but could be damaging in inexperienced hands.
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Welcome back home.
There has been a few suggestions here. Have you decided which one you might be getting? I more or less have the machines that work good for me, but after the suggestions above I might have to add another to my shelf.
There has been a few suggestions here. Have you decided which one you might be getting? I more or less have the machines that work good for me, but after the suggestions above I might have to add another to my shelf.
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Originally Posted by bigcypress
the war didn't "break out". i don't know what they told you in japan but mr. bush started it .
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Originally Posted by bigcypress
the war didn't "break out". i don't know what they told you in japan but mr. bush started it .
Thank you for your service!!!!!!!!!!!!