Birds@#$ stains??? what do you do?
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Birds@#$ stains??? what do you do?
My vert got bombed yesterday on the hood and the trunk. It coudlnt have been on more than 3 hours by the time i got home from work. I brought it in to be handwashed and now i have 2 half dollar sized stains in the clearcoat that didnt wash out,, or come out with meguirars haze/swirl remover. The stains are very noticable in sunlight and slitely noticable to the touch. Any ideas on removing these blemishes?? This has me sick. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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should come out next time you do a full detail....ie claybar, etc.
I carry a bottle of Adam's detail spray and a microfibre in my cargo compartment for just such an occasion. Nothin's better than swabbin' it when fresh.
Oh yeah, try to get local birds to stop eating Taco Bell...worked for me
I carry a bottle of Adam's detail spray and a microfibre in my cargo compartment for just such an occasion. Nothin's better than swabbin' it when fresh.
Oh yeah, try to get local birds to stop eating Taco Bell...worked for me
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Bird droppings are uric acid which can eat through clear coat.
The following was pulled from Fitch Car Wash site:
Q: I removed bird mess from my car's hood (bonnet), but a dull patch has been left behind. How can I get the paint back to its previous gloss?
A: The first stop I'd recommend is using a polish. A moderately abrasive polish should help get any remaining "pollution" out of your paint and restore its natural shine. There are also some cleaners specifically formulated to remove bird, bug and tar residue, you could try those as well, but they are usually non-abrasive, so they are more for cleaning than for polishing. Polishing is what will actually restore shine. If the bird droppings have been sitting on your paint for a while (especially in the sun), the paint may have oxidized, and you may be stuck with a dull spot. In this case, you would have to have it professionally buffed out by a detailer.
The following was pulled from Fitch Car Wash site:
Q: I removed bird mess from my car's hood (bonnet), but a dull patch has been left behind. How can I get the paint back to its previous gloss?
A: The first stop I'd recommend is using a polish. A moderately abrasive polish should help get any remaining "pollution" out of your paint and restore its natural shine. There are also some cleaners specifically formulated to remove bird, bug and tar residue, you could try those as well, but they are usually non-abrasive, so they are more for cleaning than for polishing. Polishing is what will actually restore shine. If the bird droppings have been sitting on your paint for a while (especially in the sun), the paint may have oxidized, and you may be stuck with a dull spot. In this case, you would have to have it professionally buffed out by a detailer.
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Had the same thing happen overnight Sunday...was sick when I came out of the hotel. Got it off immediately with lot of water.....got it home and used Zaino Z-6 and it's perfect....thank god for Zaino!
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It's bad. I had 25 spots in one afternoon on my MR. Most wiped off but2 ate into the clear coat. I ended up using 3M rubbing compound followed with 3M finishing compound over 20-30 min. Removed about 80%. Followed with Zaino and I can still see it but I have too look just right. That stuff eats deep, deep into the clearcoat. I guess a car cover is about the only sure solution. 5 coats of Zaino didnt even prevent it.
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Originally Posted by Firedog
You guys have to learn to not park under trees...
mine was a "fly by" dropping. Little bastard must have had a machine gun for a butt.
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At my old job i swear the birds there had it out for me everytime i washed my car and parked it back outside and then when i go home for the night theres crap all over it and no one elses. it wasnt a vette thankfully it was my 87 blue Camaro LT. Maybe they just didnt like blue cause there was no other blue there.
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Originally Posted by JJayzX
At my old job i swear the birds there had it out for me everytime i washed my car and parked it back outside and then when i go home for the night theres crap all over it and no one elses. it wasnt a vette thankfully it was my 87 blue Camaro LT. Maybe they just didnt like blue cause there was no other blue there.
Birds don't like " reflective objects " , it hurts their eyes.
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Originally Posted by joe3112d
My vert got bombed yesterday on the hood and the trunk. It coudlnt have been on more than 3 hours by the time i got home from work. I brought it in to be handwashed and now i have 2 half dollar sized stains in the clearcoat that didnt wash out,, or come out with meguirars haze/swirl remover. The stains are very noticable in sunlight and slitely noticable to the touch. Any ideas on removing these blemishes?? This has me sick. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by coolcat
Same thing happened to me. Except the bird crap was confined to my hood. After washing and polishing two large stains remain on the hood. SHOOT THE BIRDS!!!
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For the birds
On L.I. N.Y. the gulls not only crap on the cars ,but try to open 3"clams by dropping them on the hood and trunk.I have a 10 X20 carport on my boat property. Can't survive without it.
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Yikes, bird droppings are the worst. I carry some Wet Handy Wipes in all my cars more for cleaning bird droppings than hands. That stuff has to come off right away or else. Why do birds love Corvettes so much?
Dan
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Bird Excrement:
(Or insect excrement like Gypsy moth, June bug, bees, aphids, etc) contain highly acidic concentrates (uric acid) which if left for any length of time the will cause the clear coat to ‘cloud (a non-transparent area) or etch a depression in the paint or glass surfaces, so they should be removed without delay. Birds use gravel to digest their food and grit and sand are some of the major components. Residue should be removed as soon as possible as it could compromise the clear coat.
Take your time and be careful with its removal, pre-soak contamination with Isopropyl Alcohol and use a plastic scraper to remove the hardened top and then flush with lots of water to rinse away any grit / sand / etc, then use detailer's clay and a lubricant to remove residue. Then use an alkaline rinse of baking soda and water (to neutralize the acid) If the paint or glass surface has been etched the surface can be levelled with a suitable polish and then apply a paint protection.
Removing etched bird excrement residue (below surface) from paint -
These can be removed by using detailer's clay to remove any hardened surface deposits and then using a machine polish, Iz Einzett TM Metallic Polish or Iz Einzett TM Paint Polish and a cutting (LC Orange or Yellow) foam pad (speed # 4) to level the surface, work on a very small area at a time (2-foot x 2-foot) until the polish has run out, you may have to repeat this process two or three times. Reapply surface protection once spots have been removed.
Stains- Meguiar’s ScratchX used with a terry cloth applicator should remove ‘ingrained’ excrement stains. This will require repeated applications until stain is no longer visible.
Emergency kit - keep a QD spray (Iz Lackfinish) and a micro fibre towel in the vehicle
No wax or polymer sealant can provide a permanent shield against acidic bird excrement
(Collinite 845 Insulator Wax probably the most durable Carnauba wax product) this will provide enough of a barrier to enable it to be removed quickly before causing too much damage to the paint film surface.
JonM
(Or insect excrement like Gypsy moth, June bug, bees, aphids, etc) contain highly acidic concentrates (uric acid) which if left for any length of time the will cause the clear coat to ‘cloud (a non-transparent area) or etch a depression in the paint or glass surfaces, so they should be removed without delay. Birds use gravel to digest their food and grit and sand are some of the major components. Residue should be removed as soon as possible as it could compromise the clear coat.
Take your time and be careful with its removal, pre-soak contamination with Isopropyl Alcohol and use a plastic scraper to remove the hardened top and then flush with lots of water to rinse away any grit / sand / etc, then use detailer's clay and a lubricant to remove residue. Then use an alkaline rinse of baking soda and water (to neutralize the acid) If the paint or glass surface has been etched the surface can be levelled with a suitable polish and then apply a paint protection.
Removing etched bird excrement residue (below surface) from paint -
These can be removed by using detailer's clay to remove any hardened surface deposits and then using a machine polish, Iz Einzett TM Metallic Polish or Iz Einzett TM Paint Polish and a cutting (LC Orange or Yellow) foam pad (speed # 4) to level the surface, work on a very small area at a time (2-foot x 2-foot) until the polish has run out, you may have to repeat this process two or three times. Reapply surface protection once spots have been removed.
Stains- Meguiar’s ScratchX used with a terry cloth applicator should remove ‘ingrained’ excrement stains. This will require repeated applications until stain is no longer visible.
Emergency kit - keep a QD spray (Iz Lackfinish) and a micro fibre towel in the vehicle
No wax or polymer sealant can provide a permanent shield against acidic bird excrement
(Collinite 845 Insulator Wax probably the most durable Carnauba wax product) this will provide enough of a barrier to enable it to be removed quickly before causing too much damage to the paint film surface.
JonM
Last edited by TOGWT; 05-11-2005 at 05:40 PM.
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Friday the 13th...I pull the Vette into the parking lot at 6am. I park under a tree. Oh no...not under a tree. I move the car to an open space with no trees around. I go in and work for 10 hours...come out...bird sh*t on the rear hatch and trunk lid. The stuff is hardened, looks like it has straw in it!! Get home in 5 minutes, clean it off. Damn spot still there. Z-6 no help. Gave it the claybar treatment...still the cloudy look from an angle. Looks like I'll need it buffed out some day.
Just had put another layer of Zaino on two days ago.
Just had put another layer of Zaino on two days ago.
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Clay bars will not remove the stain. Once etched in nothing short of a wet sand and repaint will remove it. You can make it look better but not 100%.
When you clean off bird poo make sure your towel is very wet and GRAB it off your cars paint. Do not drag it as bird poo contains abrasive grains of sand.
Anthony
When you clean off bird poo make sure your towel is very wet and GRAB it off your cars paint. Do not drag it as bird poo contains abrasive grains of sand.
Anthony