Canadian pricing for the 2015's
#21
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While I don't disagree in general, I think the reality is that we do have a pretty good sense of what to expect for Canadian pricing for 2015, within a fairly small window, and you are right about missing a 2015 if it isn't ordered soon...
If you received a guaranteed price on a 2015 in advance, would that make things easier?
If you received a guaranteed price on a 2015 in advance, would that make things easier?
I do feela bit better knowing what the US pricing has been set at based on the spread we had from American pricing on the 2014s but without numbers in black and white I will not feel 100% comfortable.
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If Iknew EXACLwhtIwagoing to have to writechq for when I pick up the car hat would make things A LOT eaier.
I do feela bit better knowing what the US pricing has been set at based on the spread we had from American pricing on the 2014s but without numbers in black and white I will not feel 100% comfortable.
I do feela bit better knowing what the US pricing has been set at based on the spread we had from American pricing on the 2014s but without numbers in black and white I will not feel 100% comfortable.
#23
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Sorry for the terrible typing.... Going to have to get a new wireless keyboard as this one seems to have a mind of its own.
I have already placed an order as of June 12th and the dealership sold my Camaro last month. I'm just waiting for pricing now and hoping I get a TPW sometime soon as well.
What dealership are you at? and have you gotten any kind of indication as to when you will see pricing? My dealer told me he was expecting it late last week or early this week.
I have already placed an order as of June 12th and the dealership sold my Camaro last month. I'm just waiting for pricing now and hoping I get a TPW sometime soon as well.
What dealership are you at? and have you gotten any kind of indication as to when you will see pricing? My dealer told me he was expecting it late last week or early this week.
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Sorry for the terrible typing.... Going to have to get a new wireless keyboard as this one seems to have a mind of its own.
I have already placed an order as of June 12th and the dealership sold my Camaro last month. I'm just waiting for pricing now and hoping I get a TPW sometime soon as well.
What dealership are you at? and have you gotten any kind of indication as to when you will see pricing? My dealer told me he was expecting it late last week or early this week.
I have already placed an order as of June 12th and the dealership sold my Camaro last month. I'm just waiting for pricing now and hoping I get a TPW sometime soon as well.
What dealership are you at? and have you gotten any kind of indication as to when you will see pricing? My dealer told me he was expecting it late last week or early this week.
#25
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Seriously? So if someone were to wait until the spring to order a 2015 they might not even get one? They are still limiting Canadians to a tiny allocation yet again this year?? Sad.
#26
I AM SURE WE WILL GET TWICE AS MANY VETTES IN CANADA THIS YEAR THAN LAST. STILL 2014 CARS NOT SOLD IN THE STATES AND NOW MAKING 2015 CARS. IT MIGHT TAKE 4 TO 6 MONTHS TO OPEN UP. LAST YEAR MY DEALER HAD A WAITING LIST FOR 6 CARS, NOW ONLY 2 SO FAR. as for the z-06 that is another thing.
#27
Melting Slicks
My prediction is that once Canadian pricing is released those of us to jump ahead of the crowd are going to be very glad we did so. There is extremely positve opinion of this 2015, much carrying on from the advertising of the Z06, but I would bet anything we are going to see many jump as soon as pricing is released.
As for getting twice as many vettes.... there doesnt seem to be any indication of that just yet with so many dealers already aware that they wont even see a Vette this year.
As for getting twice as many vettes.... there doesnt seem to be any indication of that just yet with so many dealers already aware that they wont even see a Vette this year.
#28
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Sad... Sad but true. Canada will always play second fiddle when it comes to situations like this because the volume GM needs (and every other manufacturer for that matter) is south of the border. Especially in the southern states that make a car like this more practical because it can be driven year round.
#29
My prediction is that once Canadian pricing is released those of us to jump ahead of the crowd are going to be very glad we did so. There is extremely positve opinion of this 2015, much carrying on from the advertising of the Z06, but I would bet anything we are going to see many jump as soon as pricing is released.
Corvettes dont have much appeal in Canada.....It wouldnt be hard to flood the market....
I havent seen any c7s on the road , driven by anyone w/o grey hair....if they have hair.
Corvettes appeal mainly to older guys who liked them when they were younger....Not so much to the younger crowd who have the means to get one....
#30
I decided to contact GM Canada, via e-mail, for curiosity sake, to see what kind of response I would get, and here is their answer on this subject:
FYI
I was not impressed, and nothing has changed over the years on how GM Canada is ALWAYS lagging behind.
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Thank you for your recent email.
General Motors' plans for future products are EXCITING!
Our website will be updated with product information, brochures and pricing for the impending model year (2015) in the late fall of 2014. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Your local GM dealer is among the first provided with new product information and pricing. We suggest you periodically check our website at www.gm.ca for updates and/or contact your local GM dealership.
To locate a dealership near you, please link to:
http://apps.gm.ca/app/GMCanada/Deale...=blank&lang=en
We thank you for contacting General Motors of Canada Limited. Should you have future questions or concerns, please contact us again through our website, or call our Customer Care Centre, toll-free, 1-800-263-3777 or 1-800-263-7854 (French), Monday to Friday, 8:00am to 11:00pm, Saturdays, 8:00am to 5:00pm, Eastern Standard Time.
FYI
I was not impressed, and nothing has changed over the years on how GM Canada is ALWAYS lagging behind.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for your recent email.
General Motors' plans for future products are EXCITING!
Our website will be updated with product information, brochures and pricing for the impending model year (2015) in the late fall of 2014. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Your local GM dealer is among the first provided with new product information and pricing. We suggest you periodically check our website at www.gm.ca for updates and/or contact your local GM dealership.
To locate a dealership near you, please link to:
http://apps.gm.ca/app/GMCanada/Deale...=blank&lang=en
We thank you for contacting General Motors of Canada Limited. Should you have future questions or concerns, please contact us again through our website, or call our Customer Care Centre, toll-free, 1-800-263-3777 or 1-800-263-7854 (French), Monday to Friday, 8:00am to 11:00pm, Saturdays, 8:00am to 5:00pm, Eastern Standard Time.
#31
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I decided to contact GM Canada, via e-mail, for curiosity sake, to see what kind of response I would get, and here is their answer on this subject:
FYI
I was not impressed, and nothing has changed over the years on how GM Canada is ALWAYS lagging behind.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for your recent email.
General Motors' plans for future products are EXCITING!
Our website will be updated with product information, brochures and pricing for the impending model year (2015) in the late fall of 2014. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Your local GM dealer is among the first provided with new product information and pricing. We suggest you periodically check our website at www.gm.ca for updates and/or contact your local GM dealership.
To locate a dealership near you, please link to:
http://apps.gm.ca/app/GMCanada/Deale...=blank&lang=en
We thank you for contacting General Motors of Canada Limited. Should you have future questions or concerns, please contact us again through our website, or call our Customer Care Centre, toll-free, 1-800-263-3777 or 1-800-263-7854 (French), Monday to Friday, 8:00am to 11:00pm, Saturdays, 8:00am to 5:00pm, Eastern Standard Time.
FYI
I was not impressed, and nothing has changed over the years on how GM Canada is ALWAYS lagging behind.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for your recent email.
General Motors' plans for future products are EXCITING!
Our website will be updated with product information, brochures and pricing for the impending model year (2015) in the late fall of 2014. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Your local GM dealer is among the first provided with new product information and pricing. We suggest you periodically check our website at www.gm.ca for updates and/or contact your local GM dealership.
To locate a dealership near you, please link to:
http://apps.gm.ca/app/GMCanada/Deale...=blank&lang=en
We thank you for contacting General Motors of Canada Limited. Should you have future questions or concerns, please contact us again through our website, or call our Customer Care Centre, toll-free, 1-800-263-3777 or 1-800-263-7854 (French), Monday to Friday, 8:00am to 11:00pm, Saturdays, 8:00am to 5:00pm, Eastern Standard Time.
Having said that, I found myself on the Porsche webpage after I read this post from Frank because GMs response irritated me that much. I stand to lose $3,700 in tax savings if I were to pull the money I am getting on my trade in from the dealer but I'm starting to get to the point where I would almost consider it.
#32
Melting Slicks
Not to complain, but until this, I never realized what a huge advantage the US had over Canada in getting a Corvette. The worst part here is the fact that, although I live right on the border, ir doesnt make sense to go US side for the car before doing everything I can to get one in Canada first. Nuying from the US voids warranty and now means a heaftier pricetag.
First GM drops Cdn pricing in order to stop us from going to the US for a car, and now they don't realize that they are doing much the same by limiting the total Canadian allotment.
And then there are all the side effects such as lack of choice in dealers, no opportunity to search for the best price and so on...
First GM drops Cdn pricing in order to stop us from going to the US for a car, and now they don't realize that they are doing much the same by limiting the total Canadian allotment.
And then there are all the side effects such as lack of choice in dealers, no opportunity to search for the best price and so on...
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Not to complain, but until this, I never realized what a huge advantage the US had over Canada in getting a Corvette. The worst part here is the fact that, although I live right on the border, ir doesnt make sense to go US side for the car before doing everything I can to get one in Canada first. Nuying from the US voids warranty and now means a heaftier pricetag.
First GM drops Cdn pricing in order to stop us from going to the US for a car, and now they don't realize that they are doing much the same by limiting the total Canadian allotment.
And then there are all the side effects such as lack of choice in dealers, no opportunity to search for the best price and so on...
First GM drops Cdn pricing in order to stop us from going to the US for a car, and now they don't realize that they are doing much the same by limiting the total Canadian allotment.
And then there are all the side effects such as lack of choice in dealers, no opportunity to search for the best price and so on...
The lack of allotment is definitely frustrating, probably even more so to the men and women who make a living selling this product than it is to those who want to own one. That said, we are simply a much smaller market than the US for this type of product, and so availability is always going to be an issue, at least as long as the car is as great as it is, and as well priced. I hope you are not suggesting that GM Canada should raise the price 10K to make it make more sense to buy in the US....
To be clear, GM Canada makes the pricing decisions, GM US makes the allotment decisions. GM Canada DID NOT drop the price to "stop" anyone from going to the US to buy a car. They dropped the price to make sure that it didn't make financial sense to do so. GM US voids the warranty on any US car sold for use in Canada, not to "stop" the cross border purchase of any GM vehicle by someone on the other side of the border, but to make it inconvenient to do so. It works both ways, by the way. If an American comes up here to buy a car, they have no warranty the in US either...
There is nothing stopping anyone from buying a car in the US, you just lose your warranty and pay more. Just like there was nothing forcing you to buy a car in the US for the last 10 years, it just cost more up here. I am not quite sure how GM Canada gets painted as the bad guy for dropping the price on the C7, when for the last several years on this Forum they were slagged for NOT dropping the price on the C6. 90% of posters on this forum encouraged buyers to go to the US, screw GM Canada because of their price, etc. and I don't blame them for it, the price gap was ridiculous. Unfortunately, the long term effect of that is that GM Canada's allotment now sucks. It took several years for GM Canada's allotment to dwindle to the point it is now at, it won't get reversed in 6 months just because the same people who wouldn't buy in Canada because it cost more now want to because it doesn't.
AS to choice of dealers, you must not spend much time on the General Discussion part of the forum, there is just as much of a problem with lack of knowledgeable dealers in the US as there is in Canada! ;-)
In fact, there are a number of very knowledgeable Corvette specialists in Canada, some even on this forum, and I bet that if you asked them, they could count on one hand the number of customers from the Forum that deal with them, instead of a small local dealer that both the salespeople themselves, and the buyers, admit don't know much about the car. This is not a GM problem, it is a customer problem. You want to deal with someone knowledgeable about the car, then deal with someone knowledgeable about the car. You want to deal with the guy or girl that sold you your mini van, no problem, but don't expect them to have the level of knowledge that a performance specialist does.
All that said, the C7 is an awesome car, GM has done a terrific job with it, and those that have one, or have one coming, congratulations! To those caught in the availability crunch, the wait will be worth it.
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Although I don't doubt that GM will take another two months to update their website after the pricing is released to dealers, it should be very soon that dealers get pricing. Like Darryl said, there are 2015s being produced and have already been produced and although VERY few of those will be headed to Canada, some of them will and these people need to know what they will be paying.
Having said that, I found myself on the Porsche webpage after I read this post from Frank because GMs response irritated me that much. I stand to lose $3,700 in tax savings if I were to pull the money I am getting on my trade in from the dealer but I'm starting to get to the point where I would almost consider it.
Having said that, I found myself on the Porsche webpage after I read this post from Frank because GMs response irritated me that much. I stand to lose $3,700 in tax savings if I were to pull the money I am getting on my trade in from the dealer but I'm starting to get to the point where I would almost consider it.
#35
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Just realize that this is a canned response from GM, not specific to the Corvette situation, and is designed to address general inquiries, not specifics. I suspect if you email Porsche Canada to inquire about pricing on one of their 2015 models that hasn't had pricing released yet, their response will be somewhat similar.. And given that GM has a lot more models to handle than Porsche does, it would not be unusual for their "corporate" responses to be general in nature.
#36
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TOVette Fan,
Thank you for taking the time in that response. In my situation, however, I was able to explore all options before deciding to go with Canada's top Vette selling dealership...which just happens to be not so far away from you I would bet.
At this point, I as well as others who Have PMd me with the same concern....have yet to received order numbers. Even today I sit here as this was the guaranteed day for them to send it to me. So in my case, I am in excess of a month after putting 5k down and going to pay cash for a vehicle I want, believing that I did my research very well.....yet I haven't a clue where my order stands.
Now I hate to point out the first guy I talked to from a smaller dealership in Brampton, Owais , but the car I would have ordered from him (or at least I think it may have been same because of order dates) is set for a fall delivery. On top of that he has confirmed similar with a Z06. So in my not too smart case, I went against my better judgement for the larger and more experienced and successful Vette dealership and now hope I am simply asking too much and they are taking care of my order without my knowledge.
The only thing I do know is that I can't be at 3000 because I am still free to change things.
Sorry to vent...I am not alone though. I just don't understand how the top seller in Canada doesn't supply an order number where a much smaller and aspiring dealership, not only provides you a number the same day but also, has fall allocation deliveries.
After all, we are all paying sticker price to have this privilege here in Canada.
Thank you for taking the time in that response. In my situation, however, I was able to explore all options before deciding to go with Canada's top Vette selling dealership...which just happens to be not so far away from you I would bet.
At this point, I as well as others who Have PMd me with the same concern....have yet to received order numbers. Even today I sit here as this was the guaranteed day for them to send it to me. So in my case, I am in excess of a month after putting 5k down and going to pay cash for a vehicle I want, believing that I did my research very well.....yet I haven't a clue where my order stands.
Now I hate to point out the first guy I talked to from a smaller dealership in Brampton, Owais , but the car I would have ordered from him (or at least I think it may have been same because of order dates) is set for a fall delivery. On top of that he has confirmed similar with a Z06. So in my not too smart case, I went against my better judgement for the larger and more experienced and successful Vette dealership and now hope I am simply asking too much and they are taking care of my order without my knowledge.
The only thing I do know is that I can't be at 3000 because I am still free to change things.
Sorry to vent...I am not alone though. I just don't understand how the top seller in Canada doesn't supply an order number where a much smaller and aspiring dealership, not only provides you a number the same day but also, has fall allocation deliveries.
After all, we are all paying sticker price to have this privilege here in Canada.
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TOVette Fan,
Thank you for taking the time in that response. In my situation, however, I was able to explore all options before deciding to go with Canada's top Vette selling dealership...which just happens to be not so far away from you I would bet.
At this point, I as well as others who Have PMd me with the same concern....have yet to received order numbers. Even today I sit here as this was the guaranteed day for them to send it to me. So in my case, I am in excess of a month after putting 5k down and going to pay cash for a vehicle I want, believing that I did my research very well.....yet I haven't a clue where my order stands.
Now I hate to point out the first guy I talked to from a smaller dealership in Brampton, Owais , but the car I would have ordered from him (or at least I think it may have been same because of order dates) is set for a fall delivery. On top of that he has confirmed similar with a Z06. So in my not too smart case, I went against my better judgement for the larger and more experienced and successful Vette dealership and now hope I am simply asking too much and they are taking care of my order without my knowledge.
The only thing I do know is that I can't be at 3000 because I am still free to change things.
Sorry to vent...I am not alone though. I just don't understand how the top seller in Canada doesn't supply an order number where a much smaller and aspiring dealership, not only provides you a number the same day but also, has fall allocation deliveries.
After all, we are all paying sticker price to have this privilege here in Canada.
Thank you for taking the time in that response. In my situation, however, I was able to explore all options before deciding to go with Canada's top Vette selling dealership...which just happens to be not so far away from you I would bet.
At this point, I as well as others who Have PMd me with the same concern....have yet to received order numbers. Even today I sit here as this was the guaranteed day for them to send it to me. So in my case, I am in excess of a month after putting 5k down and going to pay cash for a vehicle I want, believing that I did my research very well.....yet I haven't a clue where my order stands.
Now I hate to point out the first guy I talked to from a smaller dealership in Brampton, Owais , but the car I would have ordered from him (or at least I think it may have been same because of order dates) is set for a fall delivery. On top of that he has confirmed similar with a Z06. So in my not too smart case, I went against my better judgement for the larger and more experienced and successful Vette dealership and now hope I am simply asking too much and they are taking care of my order without my knowledge.
The only thing I do know is that I can't be at 3000 because I am still free to change things.
Sorry to vent...I am not alone though. I just don't understand how the top seller in Canada doesn't supply an order number where a much smaller and aspiring dealership, not only provides you a number the same day but also, has fall allocation deliveries.
After all, we are all paying sticker price to have this privilege here in Canada.
Last edited by TOVetteFan; 08-19-2014 at 01:35 PM.
#38
Melting Slicks
No dealer has fall allocation for Z06, guaranteed. As to why a dealer hasn't supplied an order number, that is not a GM problem, it is a dealer or more likely a salesperson issue. They should have it, no issue, if the car is ordered. If it is a Z06, it is not yet orderable, so has no order number, but should be the only issue.
http://www.canadiancorvetteforums.co...llocation.html
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There is no fall allocation for Z06, period.... GM Canada told all dealers about 2 weeks ago what their initial allocation of Stingray and Z06 would be for the year. That is all he is talking about.