Cman01

So what do you think Canadian MSRP will be on the car??? I know there will be 3 versions of the car looking to see what the top version (aero pkg. and ceramic brakes) might go for before all the stupid $hit is added to the msrp.

I'm thinking $120,000 or so...................what's your #?

Tony

slickpete83

let's play the price is right
i bid $120,001 for the show case show down

ZOHSIC

I say $700 over the price of a current Z06, but then try to get your hands on one. Dealer mark-up will be 15-20 grand.

TOVetteFan

there will be no dealer markup, sorry to disappoint.... But good luck getting one, anyway, as most dealers have multiple orders already at this point...

I expect Z06 to start at $89,995 base car, up to $115K for a loaded Z07 package, add 5K for convertible..

RedZ4me

No markup? Good one !!

TOVetteFan

No markup, guaranteed... Not sure why you are so all fired determined to make stuff up, but there is no basis for your position. If you are dealing with a dealer with markup above list(aside from a small admin fee which they likely charge on every deal, which I don't consider relevant), then you are dealing with the wrong dealer... Sorry, if that hurts anyone's feelings, but it is true.

BTW, in another thread on C7Z, you are referring the OP to your neighbour, who I assume is not looking for a markup, so you actually know that it is happening, why are you acting otherwise?

RedZ4me

I'm not worked up at all and like others in past posts, 3rd year production in the number for me. I will take another guess though.....you speak for one dealer and not dealers across the GTA and Canada, correct? soon we will see who is correct when buyers start posting their purchases or attempts to purchase this new Z

infernobuster

Sorry to interject ..

But i went on the search for a C7, and was told by "the biggest corvette dealer in ontario" that regardless of what you sign your name too on a bill of sale .. that number will increase once the car is ready for delivery and will depend on demand for the car.

Carry on ..

RedZ4me

^^^^
Not true, proper and signed bill of sale is solid. Ford tried that with my Shelby with a $5k markup threat, but a quick call from a lawyer ended that quick. So yes, dealers (some) will try. To those that leave deposits only, good luck, you'll need it.

TOVetteFan

Careful, it is true, if the car is not the same model year. If you order a 2014 C7, then you are price protected by GM, so long as the car was ordered in your name by the dealer, and so long as you take delivery of a 2014 model. If you couldn't get a 2014 model, and had to get a 2015, then you pay the MSRP for the 2015 model, which is likely higher. But you also get a 2015 model, which will have higher resale down the line.

Why anyone would leave a deposit without a signed bill of sale is beyond me, you have nothing, AND they have your money...

TOVetteFan

I know who is correct. I sell with no mark up, and I know most of the big dealers are the same. I am correct, because all I am saying is if you are dealing with a dealer that is charging a mark up, you are dealing with the wrong dealer, and THAT is correct... ;-) There will be, of course, the odd dealer that somehow gets a Z06 allotment for stock, and tries to take advantage of it, but that is it...

You already posted that your neighbour's dealer has taken 4 deposits and bills of sale at MSRP, mine has a similar number, and I know of another that has more, all at MSRP. No guarantees that all will be 2015 models, and if they end up being 2016 models, it will be at 2016 MSRP, but no add'l markup...

When buyers start posting their purchase attempts for the new Z, the biggest issue will be that they are getting told that they can't get a car, at any price. IF you haven't already done a deal on a 2015 Z06, you are likely getting a 2016 Z06, unfortunately... Unless GM surprises with a much higher than expected price that creates lots of walk-aways.

RedZ4me

Like I posted and you admitted, ' I ' means one, so you can't speak for all. Cheers

TOVetteFan

You spoke for another, and I am aware of at least two others. The main dealers won't go for markups, it is the guys who only sell one Vette a year, and don't care about future business, that get greedy.

I don't speak for all, and there will be dealers that try, you are correct about that. Deal with the big Corvette dealers and you won't have the problem is probably the best way to deal with it. Anyone who is getting asked for a "dealer markup" should get up and walk out, unless they are prepared to pay it...

Anyway, we are kind of hijacking a thread on Z06 pricing, my apologies for doing so.

RedZ4me

^^^

I agree with most of what you posted last and personally not concerned, 3rd year for me. Performance numbers need to come out and I'm sure some flaws will show themselves too. Cheers

TOVetteFan

650/650, with 625 lbs of torque at 2800 RPM means performance numbers wont matter, because they will be wildly different, depending on the skill of the driver, and his/her ability to get the car to hook up... It will, without doubt, be spectacular in terms of performance, and likely it will exceed the nerve, if not the ability, of 95% of its owners..

RedZ4me

......maybe and we're all hoping but until the numbers come.......and besides, like many wanting this car, reading most will go auto so let's see how it will hold up

TOVetteFan

650/650 was announced 2 weeks ago, along with the 625@2800...

2015 Corvette Z06 Rated at 650 Horsepower
Supercharged LT4 V-8 engine is the most powerful ever from Chevrolet
2014-06-06

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DETROIT – The all-new 2015 Corvette Z06 is the most powerful production car ever from General Motors and one of a few production cars available in the United States that delivers more than 600 horsepower.

The Z06’s LT4 supercharged 6.2L V-8 engine is SAE-certified at 650 horsepower (485 kW) at 6,400 rpm and 650 lb-ft of torque (881 Nm) at 3,600 rpm.

“The LT4 Small Block sets a new benchmark for power and torque at GM,” said Steve Kiefer, vice president, GM Powertrain Engineering. “The engine also puts the new Corvette Z06 on par with the most powerful supercars offered in America, while delivering performance with impeccable manners that make it suitable for daily driving.”

Compared with other supercar engines, the LT4 is a veritable fountain of low-end torque, producing 457 lb-ft (619 Nm) just off idle and 625 lb-ft (847 Nm) by only 2,800 rpm. The V-12-powered Ferrari F12 Berlinetta, for example, produces about 28 percent less torque than the Z06, despite offering about 12 percent more horsepower – and its peak torque isn’t achieved until 6,000 rpm. The LT4 maintains 90 percent of its peak torque, or 592 lb-ft (802 Nm), from 2,500 to 5,400 rpm.

The new LT4 engine eclipses the Porsche 911 Turbo S engine’s peak power levels by 90 horsepower (67 kW) and 134 lb-ft of torque (182 Nm).

“Torque is the pulling power of an engine and the LT4’s abundance of it at every rpm in the engine’s speed range helps the 2015 Corvette Z06 accelerate quicker and respond nearly instantaneously,” said Jordan Lee, chief engineer for Small Block engines. “It’s the very definition of power on demand.”

The new Z06 engine produces 40 percent more peak torque (180 lb-ft / 244 Nm) than the previous-generation’s 7.0L LS7 engine – and 7.5 percent more than the supercharged 2013 Corvette ZR1’s 604 lb-ft (819 Nm). At 3,200 rpm, the new LT4 surpasses the LS7 by 208 lb-ft of torque (252 Nm). On the horsepower side of the graph, the LT4’s 650-hp rating is 29 percent greater than the LS7’s 505 horsepower (376 kW), and 12 horses more than the ZR1’s LS9 engine.

“The new LT4 engine builds on the design strengths of our previous supercharged engine and leverages the technologies introduced on the Corvette Stingray – direct injection, cylinder deactivation and continuously variable valve timing – to take Corvette performance to an all-new plateau,” said Lee. “Our new, very compact supercharger also helps the engine make power more quickly, and perhaps more importantly, it helps produce more torque earlier in the rpm band.”

“It’s also worth mentioning that the LT4’s supercar performance numbers are achieved with an engine that is nearly the same size as the very compact LT1 engine introduced in the 2014 Corvette Stingray,” Lee said. “The power density of the LT4 makes it one of the smallest and lightest 650-hp engines in the industry.”

LT4 details

The new LT4 engine is based on the same Gen 5 small block foundation as the Corvette Stingray’s LT1 6.2L naturally aspirated engine, incorporating several unique features designed to support its higher output and the greater cylinder pressures created by forced induction, including:

Rotocast A356T6 aluminum cylinder heads that are stronger and handle heat better than conventional aluminum heads
Lightweight titanium intake valves
Machined, forged powder metal steel connecting rods for reduced reciprocating mass
High 10.0:1 compression ratio – for a forced-induction engine – enhances performance and efficiency and is enabled by direct injection
Forged aluminum pistons with unique, stronger structure to ensure strength under high cylinder pressures
Stainless steel exhaust manifolds and an aluminum balancer that are lighter than their LT1 counterparts
Standard dry-sump oiling system with a dual-pressure-control oil pump.
A new 1.7L supercharger spins at up to 20,000 rpm – 5,000 rpm more than the supercharger on the Corvette ZR1’s engine. The rotors are smaller in diameter, which contributes to their higher-rpm capability – and enables them to produce power-enhancing boost earlier in the rpm band. That boost is achieved more efficiently via a more direct discharge port that creates less turbulence, reducing heat and speeding airflow into the engine.

“The Small Block’s cam-in-block design heritage has always enabled very high performance and responsiveness in a small, compact package – an attribute amplified by the performance of our new supercharger’s design,” said Lee.

The LT4 is assembled at the new Performance BuildCenter at GM’s Bowling Green Assembly Plant and at GM’s Tonawanda engine plant in New York. It is matched with a standard seven-speed manual transmission or an all-new, paddle-shift eight-speed automatic transmission built in Toledo, Ohio.

Designed to deliver shift responses on par with the world’s best dual-clutch transmissions, it is the first automatic offered in a Z06. It also makes the Z06 one of the few cars this powerful to offer the choice of a conventional manual transmission or an eight-speed automatic.

The 2015 Corvette Z06 goes on sale in the fourth quarter of 2014.

RedZ4me

Yes, sorry I was referring to performance stats to come, should have been clear to save you some time. I was aware of 650/650 on the announcement date

camirocz

Guessing the launching msrp is pure speculation at this point but those who think it will be around 85k are dreaming.

rpanesar

I think the base model will come in closer to $90K for the Canadian model.