0Dasilvamotorsports

Hello fellow Canadian forum members , I received this information from one of my vendors yesterday and think that it is very important that we all read it .

I have changed some of the wording to suit my own business platform .

This is not a solicitation for business you can go anywhere you choose . Most you who have had as little as headers installed in the past years will have to have these issues addressed before you do your etest .

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Prepared on Feb 22, 2013 by Patrick Arlia, Certified EFI Calibrator.
Recently Ontario's Drive Clean Program introduced a new, standardized ODBII testing procedure.
In the past Drive Clean was simply a gas analyzer.? A probe would be inserted into your tailpipe that monitored emissions.? If it found emissions to be in range you?d pass, if not you?d fail.? As of recent Drive Clean is using your on-board ODBII diagnostic system (which is capable of monitoring emissions) to perform the test instead of an exhaust probe.? The main difference is that your ODBII emissions monitoring system allows for far less emissions before if reports a failure, so it?s harder to pass the new test.
What does this mean for my high performance Corvette /Camaro / CTSV and other newer performance modified car's ?
Simply put , you may not pass emissions tests anymore even if you had success in the past.
Why may I not pass emissions tests anymore?
The new test looks for ODBII readiness in several categories (catalytic converters, EGR, EVAP, etc). In 99% of vehicles programmed in the last 10 years, rear o2 sensors we're disabled.? If you've had your vehicle tuned by any tuner (on the dyno or just a a hand held programmer) chances are your rear o2 sensors have been disabled.
This means, you'll fail the new test because it requires that your rear o2 sensors are enabled (for readiness).
Why disable my rear o2 sensors?
In many applications high-flow catalytic converters are installed.? When high flow catalytic converters are installed, your onboard ODBII diagnostic system will report a catalyst inefficiency? and your check engine light will be illuminated. We disable rear o2 sensors to prevent this from occurring. Turning off the rear o2 sensors had no effect on your vehicles performance and no effect on emissions test results, so we had no reason not to do it (until now of course).
What if I'm not from Ontario?
If your province hasn't adopted emissions testing, or has yet to adopt the ODBII testing procedure for emissions, chances are they will in the near future and for this reason the same fate awaits you.
How do I know if I'll pass the new emissions test?
It basically boils down to how efficient your catalytic converters are.If you have high flow cats installed, you may have passed emissions tests with flying colours in the past, however you'll fail now (the new test is much more demanding of your catalytic converters).

You don't have to visit an accredited Drive Clean centre to discover that you'll fail.? You may setup an appointment with Dasilva Motorsports or any other shop of your choosing prior to setting up an emissions test at an accredited Drive Clean centre.? We may perform the same test here, so we?'l be able to tell you if your car will pass emissions before you waste your money and time failing an emissions test.
What if the pretest determines I won't pass the new emissions test?
Chances are you?ll pass the new emissions test however if you don't, it's not the end of the road , we've built 1000hp cars that have passed emissions tests legitimately.We know what needs to be done to produce an emissions compliant vehicle (regardless of its modifications) and will recommend the necessary components in order to make your vehicle emissions compliant.
You may require new, more efficient catalytic converters. We offer high-flow catalytic converters that yield less emissions than factory (restrictive) converters. These converters typically aren't standard with high-flow x-pipes or h-pipes that are available on the market however they may be swapped out with relative ease.
What if my exhaust system is stock?
If your exhaust system is stock, you'll likely pass the new test without issue. We may still have to reprogram your vehicle and re-enable the rear o2 sensors (assuming theyre disabled).
When should I contact Dasilva Motorsports or other performance shop with tuning capabilities that can related to my vehicle's emissions compliance.
Don't panic!
We recommend that you setup an appointment with us or any other professional shop 1 month prior to when your next emissions test is required. This will give ample time to establish your vehicles emissions compliance status and take the necessary steps to make it emissions compliant if needed.
I still have questions?
Not a problem, if you have further questions related to emissions testing and how it potentially affects your vehicle's emissions compliance we'd ask that you email us. We'll be more than happy to answer your questions at our earliest convenience.

manny@dasilvamotorsports.ca

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vt65

Thanks for the update Manny, I guess if one is buying a used C4 - C6 he has to include this as a pre-requisite to any purchase, that will be another roadblock to buying in the US, is there an OBD reader that is portable and can be used to perform a test on a car? ... so much for halting e-testing! ... Rob

FireRoc

Only the 1996 C4 was OBDII.

Not sure how the e-testing will be done on the OBDI's, as that system did not have near the same capabilities for monitoring emissions that OBDII has,

0Dasilvamotorsports

I'm not too sure on that one either , haven't got that far yet .

It's pretty sad when what comes out the tail pipe is fine and they still want to screw you around. It is nothing more than a money grab. Get vocal and e-mail or call your MP and MPP. Pester them all. Phoning is better because someone has to answer the phone and you can actually tie them up for a while answering questions. Have lots of questions ready. Bury them in phone calls and they might just get the message. If they are actually taking in $30 million a year, then they are not going to be too quick to give up that income unless they see votes disappearing.

Overdrive

You could always move north to avoid it.

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_078453.pdf

sami85L98

Good info not a JAUT...lol. Man i need to renew emission inspector/repair although not doing etest anymore at my current place. This what makes a good tuner providing useful info on stuff like this great going manny.

vt65

I have been thinking about moving up to the Sundridge Area or Mattawan, Hwy 11 would be a blast at 150 mph as long as the mooses stayed away

AGVI

Good info here. I'm just wondering if anyone would consider going back to a stock setup to avoid not getting their plates renewed?

0Dasilvamotorsports

That's a good point Les.

We are however able to build performance cars today and still pass emissions and get insured .

So you can still have your cake and eat it too

vt65

Manny in my day we used to say: your Kate and Edith too

0Pete@ChampionMotors

OBD1 cars are still required to pass and need to do a two-speed idle test with a sniffer in the tailpipe. Limitations have been raised for OBD 1 cars. We have been successful in making OBD 1 and 2 cars pass with the new laws.

0Dasilvamotorsports

Thanks Pete

0Pete@ChampionMotors

No problem Manny. Came to see you at the auto show on Monday(Family day) but nobody was at your booth. Nice booth!!! Nice Caddy!!!

0Dasilvamotorsports

Sorry I missed you Pete . We had been at the show all for 4 straight days , and were a little tired so we headed for home @4pm .

Thanks for coming by and checking out the booth

Mad*Max

might be a dumb question, but, if your car is stock and the "check engine light" is not on, does that mean your car will pass?

0Dasilvamotorsports

Actually no , there are many cars without CEL's on , that are failing .

The CEL is only the visual part . The run cycles in all the sensors will be checked and you could still fail .

5abivt

LOL @ the ministry I think these tests are so stupid. 1 Airplane lets out enough emissions as a million cars over several months. Until I see cats on airplanes Im never using them again

I dont see how a single cam motor that will spin 8500 rpm will have any chance at passing anyways.. especially since the whole oem computer has been removed

Time to budget for the tickets every year

Mad*Max

I cannot express my feelings in words (for the fear of being banned )

KLUTZ

The tests are getting ridiculous. My Son's 2000 Jetta Turbo failed his E-test this week. His check engine light was on, he re-set it before the test and it didn't come on for the two days prior. During the E-test it failed and the code showed "Low Voltage." He cleaned up the grounds under the battery tray, redid the test and it passed..