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Old 03-20-2010, 10:09 PM   #1
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How does a c4 drive and ride compared to a c5 on a scale of 1-10
10 being best.
How is a c4 power to a c5 stock stick 5.7 on both cars.
Is a stick faster than auto top end and off the line.
I may be looking at a c4 and if I do what year should I pick
What car is more mechanicaly sound If the mileage is about the same and they had no track or pounding on them
Answer each question please dont generalize.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:26 PM   #2
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You need to just go drive one. The C4 is a cockpit feel. It hugs you in, and feels like your one with the car. The C5 seats are nothing special, but the car obviously has more power, better brakes, and handles better.

This is comparing stock vehicles. If your looking at a C4 for 89 and above to get a ZF6 tranny. You really need to research it for yourself. I dropped in a 421 in my 88 so my car will toast C5's that are stock, and even modded one's.

To each there own. I personally like the C4 body style, and would only get a C5 if it was a C5 Z06. I drove an 02 Z06, and a 01 C5 (both 6 spd), and I could notice quite a bit of difference in get up and go.
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How does a c4 drive and ride compared to a c5 on a scale of 1-10
10 being best.
How is a c4 power to a c5 stock stick 5.7 on both cars.
Is a stick faster than auto top end and off the line.
I may be looking at a c4 and if I do what year should I pick
What car is more mechanically sound If the mileage is about the same and they had no track or pounding on them
Answer each question please dont generalize.
Hey Randy, having owned both I have a bit of personal insight and experience. I loved my C4 but the C5 is advanced in every way.

Hopefully this does not upset any C4 owners. I would still like to have one of each.

I prefer the seats and the cockpit in the 1990 to 1996 C4 but the side wells to get in and out of the C4 are a total PIA for an older gentleman.

Drive & Ride. on a scale of 1 - 10: the C4 would be a (4) and the C5 an (8)
The C4 needs much more driver input to keep the C5 in range.
I remember the hot dog runs and cruises with the C4 when my right foot was either mashed to the floor with the gas pedal or with the brake pedal hoping to stop.

The handling and brakes on the C5 are night and day over my vert C4.

The C4's had the 250 Hp L98 motor or the much improved LT1 in the later years.

The C5 starts out with the 345 Hp in 1997 and moves up from there. The C5 is faster.

Some like the auto some like the stick.
A proper tune can bring the C5 Auto to life.

If you are looking a a C4 look for 1990 to 1996. Stay away from the Doug Nash 4+3 transmission

Good luck in your hunt. both are great cars.

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Old 03-20-2010, 11:55 PM   #4
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Randy i said before and again, i miss my C4 period. But i want more refined and LS motors make good power, if you are interested in C4, than they change or added pretty much every year.

I will give 7/10 for both C4 and C5, because they are not comparable, they are just so different, they both have neg an dplus points.

my favourite year 89 (if you like low end torque, distributor and simple electrical and electronics no bull crap to deal with) and ofcourse GM added roller cam instead of flat tapppet cam in previous C4)

another fav 94 dont know why but seats were good in this year

and ofcourse 96 LT4.

Auto's have Dana 36 rear end which is slightly less stronger than Dana 44 which came in stick cars.

and yes stay away from Doug Nash 4+3 transmission, ZF is the prefered one which came as standard in later than 92 i think.

Well i can talk and talk, but get the C5, i think you would be much happy, C4's are getting too old, getting parts is tough, they squeak too much too.

Regarding power, i know how you drive, so only C4's from 85-89 have great torque down low BTW they had 240 HP but 340 torque, 90-91 avoid these 2 year cars they are most confsuing, 92-96 they are stupid slow down low, but in higher rpm its like pull pull pull...specially LT4, LT1/4 they are not much fun in streets.

I drove C5 standard coupe nope i did not like it was slow, C5 Z first time i drove sealed the deal. done done and done.

Only fking problem with manual C5 is dam frustrating wheel hop. when it comes to interior than no other generation come close to C4 interior, its rough but dang i love it.

BTW if you wanna test drive mine you are most welcome, drive easy a couple klicks get comfortable and than punch it.

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Old 03-21-2010, 08:33 AM   #5
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Hi Randy,

Well as you know I've got a 92 LT1, M6 and simply love my car. The lines, the interior fit and how it handles. I keep talking about getting a newer one, but just can't do it.

That being said, it took looking at a lot of junk before I found a jewel of a car. Extremely low mileage - was 63,000kms when I bought it, so it was tight, no squeaks and handled very well. As a matter of fact, even with the amount of track time it has seen, it is still that way.

A convertible will have more body flex than the coupe. There is an x-brace on the vert to stiffen up the body.

The guys called it correct in terms of the power, slow down low but faster at the top end. It is a torque monster

Probably not all, but one of the big screw ups for GM in the LT1 ( if I remember correctly, was the first year) was the Opti-Spark. Not so much the part but it is located right below the water-pump, which is notable for leaking. Total PITA to fix and also an expensive one. A new one is in the range of $600-900, before the labour.

I was somewhat lucky that the previous owner switched out to an electric water pump, however I needed to replace the Opti-Spark during it's first tune. My tech was actually shocked that the car would run considering it was so corroded.

Parts, while not all that hard to find, they are expensive. Mine typically come from the states.

You definitely would need to do the C5 brake upgrade on the front of the C4. Just spirited cruising on the street, braking was an issue on stock.

Getting in and out, Mark is so right, not an easy feat and I would imagine it gets worse as the body gets older.

I've driven a C4ZR1, C5z06 and a c6 and found them all to be night and day. Still waiting to drive the C6z06

I will say, as much as the speed, handling and the bells and whistles the new generations have is sweet, I didn't get the thrill factor that I get driving my car. I am old school though, growing up driving muscle cars that you had to actually "work" to drive.

The c5 and C6, I found that it was just too easy, at least on the street.

Randy, I honestly can say that I don't think you can compare the two generations. It's totally a personal choice for what you want. Do you now want a car that is "easy" to drive for cruising or do you want a car that you have to "work". Do you want to be wrenching on a car that is definitely getting up there in age, and parts do wear out, or do you want some added comfort that the car you buy is newer and has a potentially longer life, and therefore most likely lower maintenance for the big stuff?

Also, what can you afford? In alignment with the above, you may pay more out of pocket up front for a newer vette, an older one may end up costing you the same if not more as you need to replace the expensive parts.

Depending on how you answer the above...

If you can find a gem like mine, C4 - 10/10.

If not, C5 all the way - 10/10.

Each generation of Corvette will bring pro's and con's. It is all about personal choice, as with anything in life. Don't get caught up in "keeping up with the Jones'" as I've seen, especially in the Corvette world. It is a battle no one will ever win. Go with what you want and please only yourself.

If you do decide to look at the C4, go for 92 LT1 or newer, actually LT4 even better and inspect, drive, inspect.


Even though I have tons more to say, think I've written enough

Good luck and use the expertise here Randy to help you pick out a winner, regardless of the generation.


lauri

PS..As much track time my car has seen, still would beat a lot of the local "show cars" out there in terms of condition. The C4's I saw at Performance World proved that.

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Randy, I have owned 2 c4's, My C5Z and now onto the C6Z. All things considered each generation proves to offer more than the previous generation otherwise the Corvette would cease to sell. That said I can offer up tons of opinions but I feel 2 questions need to be answered.

1) What is your budget?
2) What turns your crank more when you look at the car? To hec with everything else. Drive what makes your heart pound everytime you see the car.

You can make a C4 do everything a C5 does with money and same can be said of a C5 regarding a C6. What are you looking for? Targa, vert, Z06? If you can answer some of these questions then I will provide my personal input based on my experience and also help locate your jewel purchase if you want. Cheers!
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Having owned and driven each "C" model. We prefer the C6 for every thing. Handling, power, comfort, ride, etc.
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I love C4's. I think they are the best looking Corvette ever produced. I had a 93 ruby convert that I sold a couple of years ago with less than 10,000 kms on it. The car was eye candy but I always found it hard to get past the park brake... Still can't figure out why they made it like that.
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Randy,
Why not try both? Maybe not at the same time but if you can find a C4 you like keep it for a few years then move on to a C5.
I chose a C5 right from the get go but I think it would be great to have owner experience from the other (if not all) the generations.
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help locate your jewel purchase if you want. Cheers!
Randy, Mike found my diamond after looking at many cubic zirconia's

And you know the cars he has found for himself. Don't hesitate to ask for his words of wisdom


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And you know the cars he has found for himself. Don't hesitate to ask for his words of wisdom


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I agree with the many posts above.
I have owned C4, C5, now C6

Each was good for me at the time.
Each better in so many ways then the last......

Buy within your budget and you'll love it.

There are so many mods. & upgrades to be had for each so that you can exploite the features you love best about your car... be it looks, bling, power, handling, whatever you use your car for........

It seems that the newer the version the better on both handling and power....... as for looks it is a personal thing....

Shop carefully, there is lots out there......... some not so good, and plenty of good........
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Just make sure you set aside enough time to listen to them all....
Thats a good one, i thought too, oh man randy need some time off to read this all...lol.

For now i think enough read for him.
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BTW if you wanna test drive mine you are most welcome, drive easy a couple klicks get comfortable and than punch it.
Sami..........if I were to tell you I was thinking of buying a C5, would you let me drive yours?
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Sami..........if I were to tell you I was thinking of buying a C5, would you let me drive yours?
sure, you even dont have to say interested in buying C5, just lemme know when u want test drive, BTW where you been hiding?
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Thats what you do best bud!!
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Good luck with your search Randy!
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sure, you even dont have to say interested in buying C5, just lemme know when u want test drive, BTW where you been hiding?
Thanks for the offer Sami, you also seem to be very observant. Since mine's not on the road yet, I placed myself on probation. That and the fact I've been hiding from Vito.
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