Congradulations to Jennson Button for F1 championship
THanks to the new rule in F1 this year - and correct me if I am wrong and this rule has been cancelled - whoever wins the most races regardless of points wins the championship.
We are now 7 of 18 races in and Jenson has won 6 and is their any other driver/team strong enough that if brawn decided to not show up the rest of the year could string together 7 or 8 wins?? Let me predict no chance. So while the points race may become tighter over the course of the year the wins will not, so the championship has been clinched in early June - fantastic entertainment for the rest of the year now!!
Don't get me wrong, I love F1 and will still watch all the races, but the year has lost a little something for me now.
Didn't they enact all these rules because of the Schumacher domination years where he would clinch with 2 or 3 races left in the season and the sport lost it's entertainment value?? How about now!!! Championship clinched and only 11 races and 5 months left!!!
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The F1 has the stupidest people running it in the history of the world.
Even the drivers during interviews...they are so mechanical and monotonous, heaven forbid they smile or crack a joke. I love the technical aspect of these most advanced pieces of machinery in the world. After the first lap it is fast forward time on my PVR until it looks like something exciting is happening which is rare at best.
I'm enjoying this year despite the run away Brawn freight train.
For me, seeing Brawn work his majic again is very intriguing. Will be interesting to see if he can continue this next year.
Aside from that, the past few years have been all but dominated by Macca and Ferrari so to see the grid essentially turned upside down keeps my interest high.
There is good infighting going on between Red Bull, Toyota and even BMW seems to be having a few bright spots. Brawn/button may win the championships this year, but 2-4th should be a great battle.
And I do agree that a medal/wins format is absolutely ridiculous. Having said that, you should get more points for a win, and possibly a point for pole or something like that.
Honestly Mike, I'm probably one of the biggest F1 nutswingers around and this season has been putting me to sleep. Everything that I expected from the new rules has blown up in my face..sure the cars can run a little closer together, but the Brawns are soooo far out in front that there's no reason for anybody to take any risks catching them. I'm happy for Ross and Jensen, but I'm not here for the cinderalla story. I'm here for epic, season long battles between the big teams. My wet dream would be a three way fight between Raikonnen, Hamilton and Alsonso that went right down to the last race.
2006 (Schumi/Alsonso), 2007 (Hammy/Kimi), 2008 (Hammy/Massa) were AWESOME...this seaason has all the on track excitement of watching paint dry.
It's great to see a field where Ferrari and McLaren are not the dominant cars. When Brawn won the first race, I thought "wow, we're in for a great season". Now it's the same old with a new name at the top.
Still enjoying it tho. And no, I won't bet against Jensen as the 2009 champion.
The new rule for most wins does not come into effect until next year.
having said that F1 is still the most boring racing in the world IMHO.
Actually the Indycar race this weekend was pretty much a parade as well. As was the Indy 500
Cap that off with Nascar doing their version of the Mobilegas Economy Run and not a great weekend for racing.
elimination of pit stops next year in F1 should make it better. At least any changes in qualifying order will be determined by a pass......if there is one.
The new rule for most wins does not come into effect until next year.
Unless FOTA vs FIA/FOM blows up in 5 days or less.
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having said that F1 is still the most boring racing in the world IMHO.
Actually the Indycar race this weekend was pretty much a parade as well. As was the Indy 500
Except F1 is about so much more than actual race day. It's about technology, strategy, qualifying, etc etc. While it is true that the actual races can be yawners, I view the sport from a much larger perspective including the items I listed. For me this year we may have a runaway, but it is still very exciting.
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Cap that off with Nascar doing their version of the Mobilegas Economy Run and not a great weekend for racing.
Talk about yawner races all the time......
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elimination of pit stops next year in F1 should make it better. At least any changes in qualifying order will be determined by a pass......if there is one.
They are only eliminating refueling not pit stops entirely. If they did get rid of pit stops entirely you'd definately see boring follow-the-leader racing. Open wheeled cars that are highly aero dependant simply result in racing we have in F1 (and IRL/Cart/GP2, etc)
I don't agree with no refueling, it adds to the excitement and strategy required, as does the tire selection/forced changes. But my name ain't Max or Bernie so what do i know.......
Unless FOTA vs FIA/FOM blows up in 5 days or less.
Except F1 is about so much more than actual race day. It's about technology, strategy, qualifying, etc etc. While it is true that the actual races can be yawners, I view the sport from a much larger perspective including the items I listed. For me this year we may have a runaway, but it is still very exciting.
Sorry but i dont find a parade exciting
Talk about yawner races all the time......
i generally watch the opening and the last 50 laps
They are only eliminating refueling not pit stops entirely. If they did get rid of pit stops entirely you'd definately see boring follow-the-leader racing. Open wheeled cars that are highly aero dependant simply result in racing we have in F1 (and IRL/Cart/GP2, etc)
Yes. To an extent. But there used to be great racing in CART years ago and especially at Indy when it was run what ya brung and the best team wins. Aero dependance shouldnt have to mean no passing. Even IRL a few years ago had some great competition, close races with 4-5 guys finishing in the same second. But there were more types of motors/chassis involved then......it wasnt a spec series like IRL today
I don't agree with no refueling, it adds to the excitement and strategy required, as does the tire selection/forced changes. But my name ain't Max or Bernie so what do i know.......
yeah......if we had their money we could have our own series.
Maybe it was because I was more directly involved but for me the most exciting spec series racing involved sedans. The old Rothmans Porsche and Players/GM series. No stops.....35 minute sprint race..all cars exactly the same(or as close as humanly possible)........ It was all up to the driver. Fellows, Spenard, Buck, Empringham, Wilden in the Players cars......... made for some great racing.
Or the Corvette Challenge series........30 cars qualify within the same second!!
anyway......these are certainly not the golden days of motorsport
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Quick thought on F1 racing at least the way I remember it. The cars are on the cutting edge of technology. Eventually allot of the features and parts on these cars get adapted into the sports cars we drive today.
The powers to be in F1 want or encourage innovation ( or did when I was into it ) and this is partly the reason that one team or another is well ahead of the others in any given year.
I remember when they actually had fans sucking the air from under the car ( Brabham ) and the ground effects cars of the '70's which slashed the lap times but also created much more dangerous cars if the car went over a bump and lost this vacuum under the car
Quick thought on F1 racing at least the way I remember it. The cars are on the cutting edge of technology. Eventually allot of the features and parts on these cars get adapted into the sports cars we drive today.
The powers to be in F1 want or encourage innovation ( or did when I was into it ) and this is partly the reason that one team or another is well ahead of the others in any given year.
I remember when they actually had fans sucking the air from under the car ( Brabham ) and the ground effects cars of the '70's which slashed the lap times but also created much more dangerous cars if the car went over a bump and lost this vacuum under the car
Ding Ding Ding!!!!!
F1 is all about bleeding edge tech, and yes, that sometimes takes away from the actual on track racing action. However, when balance with the simply Obscenely cool tech, F1 is "da bomb".
Why is it ALMS can dble stint tires - go for an hour or so, yet F1 gets 1 or 2 good laps??
No refueling - you gotta know that will mean fuel conservation during the race making them even more follow the leader except for the last 5 or 10 laps.
Lets invent 5 more rules that take away from the excitement and stragey of racing!!! Lets see - you can earn points, but they don't matter as long as you have more wins, engines have to last several races, thus drivers settle for positions rather then race for better ones to save their engine, no refueling thus eliminating a key strategy for both qualifying and race pace. How about rules like if a faster car comes up behind you and they say into their headset they are faster you have to move over and let them pass - nope, got that one already. Ohh - I know - if you touch tires or cause a spin you should be severely punished due to safety reasons (except the nature of racing is to take risks) - nope got that one as well.
I love open wheel racing - I love street tracks over ovals, but will watch them all, I love the technology, but I also love watching a true blue race car based on horsepower and driver grit. I think they have gone way overboard with F1 rules and I fear a revolution is at hand. When a car can gain a fraction of a millimeter advantage in some part of his setup and that lets him dominate every weekend that is a sign to me of over regulation. Yes cars need to be equal to create an exciting race, but should let teams get there on their own and let drivers DRIVE!!! You gotta love the monster outside pass where a car should not go, yet if he touches a tire he is punished.
Not sure where the answer really sits, but it's not in a dozen new rules every year.
Why is it ALMS can dble stint tires - go for an hour or so, yet F1 gets 1 or 2 good laps??
No refueling - you gotta know that will mean fuel conservation during the race making them even more follow the leader except for the last 5 or 10 laps.
Lets invent 5 more rules that take away from the excitement and stragey of racing!!! Lets see - you can earn points, but they don't matter as long as you have more wins, engines have to last several races, thus drivers settle for positions rather then race for better ones to save their engine, no refueling thus eliminating a key strategy for both qualifying and race pace. How about rules like if a faster car comes up behind you and they say into their headset they are faster you have to move over and let them pass - nope, got that one already. Ohh - I know - if you touch tires or cause a spin you should be severely punished due to safety reasons (except the nature of racing is to take risks) - nope got that one as well.
I love open wheel racing - I love street tracks over ovals, but will watch them all, I love the technology, but I also love watching a true blue race car based on horsepower and driver grit. I think they have gone way overboard with F1 rules and I fear a revolution is at hand. When a car can gain a fraction of a millimeter advantage in some part of his setup and that lets him dominate every weekend that is a sign to me of over regulation. Yes cars need to be equal to create an exciting race, but should let teams get there on their own and let drivers DRIVE!!! You gotta love the monster outside pass where a car should not go, yet if he touches a tire he is punished.
Not sure where the answer really sits, but it's not in a dozen new rules every year.
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Congradulations to Jennson Button for F1 championship
