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Old 12-21-2008, 01:43 PM   #1
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Default Canadian C6 Z06 owners, do you rustproof your ride?????

Simple question, do you or not???? Who did you go with if you do?

Wondering if I should with my Z. My previous summer ride (96 Pontiac Formula) was done at Krown every year since new till about 2001 or so then I laid off the spraying since I was storing it in the winter and didn't drive it too much in the summer if at all.

With my Z I plan to drive it more in the summer (rain or sunny) but will still be stored in the winter months so is it necessary to rust proof this car???

What are your thoughts?

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Old 12-21-2008, 02:27 PM   #2
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Probably a good idea to get her done; once the rust starts on that FIBERGLASS theres no stopping it...
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:38 PM   #3
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Don't do it! It makes a mess out of everything and besides, even your frame is aluminum.
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:06 PM   #4
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:11 PM   #5
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So I take it with this car the answer is no, no need to do it.

Now besides the cast iron rotors on this car is there anything else on a Z that is iron or steel (besides nuts bolts and stuff)? I know the frame is alum. and the engine cradle is magnesium (not sure if that will rust or not) and the panels are fibreglass (except for the front fenders which are CF) but is the hood also fibreglass or alum. ?
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:59 PM   #6
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I used to use Krown back in the 80s and early 90s on my cars, but after trading so many of them in so soon, I really didn't see any point in getting it done after that. And it sure did make an awful mess! I honestly don't think cars built in the last 10-15 years even need it. My wife's 2000 Civic has no rustproofing on it at all and isn't showing any signs of rust at all. I think the key is frequent car washings, especially in the winter when they put down all that nasty road salt.
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Old 12-21-2008, 04:12 PM   #7
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Probably a good idea to get her done; once the rust starts on that FIBERGLASS theres no stopping it...
ROFLMAO. A friend of mine just traded in his 06 car for a new 09 something (no further details). Suffice to say that with all of his pampering and never driving in the wet or snow (because of the salt), he got so little in his trade that it made you wonder. I agree with Patman that cars are much better built these days and the mes this would make.
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It's unessessary and truly makes a MESS.
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It's unessessary and truly makes a MESS.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:12 PM   #10
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Probably a good idea to get her done; once the rust starts on that FIBERGLASS theres no stopping it...
Not to mention most of the PLASTIC body panels.
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:03 PM   #12
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I did not do it on my '98 TA that was my daily year round driver for 10 years and 325,000 kms and it still looks great. But (and this is a big but) I was anal in keeping it clean top and bottom. It was washed weekly, and every spring it went up on jackstands and I detailed and painted the underside. This usually took me an entire weekend.

We also have a daily year round driven '94 C4 (wife's car) that was not krowned for the first 7-8 years. The gas tank and sending unit rusted out at about that time, and since then it has been krowned every year or so. Last spring we wound up having to replace the hard fuel and brake lines.

So when I got my 2005 C6, the big question was to krown or not. It will be daily year round driven as well, but realistically it does not see much winter driving as I take the bus to work and it only make trips home from Ottawa to Oakville every couple of weeks or so.

I decided to krown it and it is now done. The reason was to keep the corrosion off the alloy frame pieces and to keep corrosion out of the elcectrical components. The inside of the frame rails was alos done. The frame rails in the engine compartment were the only items done in there. My mechanic stood over the Krown tech when he sprayed the engine and I have never seen such accurate spraying.

As the owner of the shop where the needs of my wife's Vette are taken car of put it: Sure it make a mess, but if down the road I want to show the car, I can take a couple of cans of degreaser to the bottom and it will look like new.

This also means I will not have to be as anal with the C6 as I was with the TA.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:12 PM   #13
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Are you really serious about this question or is it a joke? Come on your vette will hardly be out in the rain let alone salt! Don't get suckered into something you could spend on a mod ! LOL
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:11 PM   #14
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No,

Won't ever see snow, only see's rain if I get caught in it...
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:35 PM   #15
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I though this was a joke . . . . .

After my first few sports cars ie. E46 M3, C5 Z06 etc. I found you don't get any more for the car when it comes to get rid of it. I used to put multiple coats of Zaino, under-wash my cars, never take it out in the rain, let alone in the winter, and never got a penny more for it when I got rid of it.

Now, rain, storm, dirt, I don't care. If there isn't an accumulation of snow on the ground, it's time!

Vettes are meant to be driven. If I wanted a garage queen, I would have bought a classic which would have a better chance of maintaining its value.

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Old 12-25-2008, 12:19 PM   #16
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I haven't rust proofed my Z06 and I don't intend to. Of course, I don't live in Canada anymore...
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:53 PM   #17
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I wouldnt!! My car sleeps all winter..
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I though this was a joke . . . . .

After my first few sports cars ie. E46 M3, C5 Z06 etc. I found you don't get any more for the car when it comes to get rid of it. I used to put multiple coats of Zaino, under-wash my cars, never take it out in the rain, let alone in the winter, and never got a penny more for it when I got rid of it.

Now, rain, storm, dirt, I don't care. If there isn't an accumulation of snow on the ground, it's time!

Vettes are meant to be driven. If I wanted a garage queen, I would have bought a classic which would have a better chance of maintaining its value.
That has been my experience as well, and that is exactly why we drive our cars year round regardless of weather.

When I considered the cost of a beater (capital cost, insurance, maintenance, etc) and the fact that the car is worth no more when I get rid of it........I drive them year round. But, we do look after them very well.
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:08 AM   #19
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Thanks for the responses, now to some of you how is this question a joke???? To me it's a legit q. Yes I know this car has a lot of high tech alloy stuff and plastics but somewhere on this car there are still steel (metal) components that will be subject to rust over time and exposure to the elements. Even sitting in a garage certain things can still oxidize without exposure to salt and stuff.

When I was Krowning my previous cars I used to go to this place owned by a real decent owner. Got to know him pretty well after a few sprayings of the Firebird. When I didn't want to do the full spraying anymore he had no problem letting me bring the car in and he had his guys do a minor spray of the underside in certain spots and would do it no charge since I was also doing my other DD also. Too bad he sold the business cause if he was still around I probably would get him to do this car but very, very minor again in certain places.

If I went there now even if I just wanted a minor spraying the new business owner would probably still charge me full pop and I'm not willing to pay that.

I hope most of you are right on this one, AFAIK right now this car is a keeper and without any extra protection from the elements hopefully it will still look like it does now, even if I don't take it out at all in the winter time but will drive it more during the spring summer fall months no matter what that weather is.

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Old 01-09-2009, 11:45 PM   #20
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If you undercoat your corvette you are looking for trouble BIG TIME. The composite components including suspension springs are not resistant to the oils used in undercoating, it will turn all the composite soft and eventually to a gel. I saw a 2000 vert not long ago that was undercoated in 2000. Without seeing it you wouldn't believe the mess of this car. The body was so bad you could see the paint lifting and could literally push your finger into the plastic panels. The suspension was pooched and sagging badly to the left hand side. The car was at a body shop for paint LOL and was so bad, the insurance company wrote it off, last I heard it was parted out. Do NOT undercoat your corvette! the plastic panels are very sensitive to any type of oil based products. I was told by the shop owner that he has seen this several times over the years with Corvettes and Pontiac Transport vans. If you inquire at any GM dealership they will warn you against this for safety reasons due to the composite suspension components.

Not at all a good idea and honestly it is not needed. These cars are very very resilient, most of the car is plastic, aluminum or coated steel.
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