Some hope in the fight against GM Canada on importing!
Hi,
As most of you probably know, GM Canada has told the RIV that all of it's 2008 lineup is inadmissible for importation by individuals, supposedly due to the immobilizer issue that went into law Sept 1st 2007. Even the installation of a Transport Canada approved immobilizer at Speedy Auto Glass etc... will not get you the needed approval from GM.
As for our beloved Vettes, even though GM US states on their web site that all 2008's (like the '05's up) come standard with an immobilizer, GM has banned them from import, even if built before the Sept 1st deadline.
Well there appears to be a glimmer of hope in our fight against GM and the others! Read this from yesterday's Montreal Gazette http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...4bff4a&k=96491
This doesn't mean that it's a done deal, but at least it's a step in the right direction towards fair pricing in Canada for all of us.
Good example of bureaucrats not knowing whether to sh t or blind and doling out some more bs to satisfy the media for a story. IMHO this announcement doesn't address the problem we have with a socialist government...and I thought that Harper would be different. But then again it's not Harper that runs Canada it's those civil servants in Ottawa, in our case Transport Canada.
GM should tell Transport Canada to go f themselves until the agree to accept US standards.
Pay $75,000 for a US 2008 Z06 then have to park it in my driveway????? Come on...what kind of crap do we have to put up with from Ottawa anyway.
My wife would like to purchase a new vehicle but we're waiting to see if someone in Ottawa has the "boys" to make some changes. Her 8.1 suburban runs great so there is no rush, we'll just wait, from what I hear other people are doing the same.
I have also heard that sales are down at many of the dealerships here in Calgary. Not surprising are the discounts that the dealers are giving because of the rush for US vehicles, but the interest rates are higher.
I did get a price of $86,000 for a loaded black 2008 Z06 (best price I’ve seen here) I didn't bite but thought hard about it.
Good example of bureaucrats not knowing whether to sh t or blind and doling out some more bs to satisfy the media for a story. IMHO this announcement doesn't address the problem we have with a socialist government...and I thought that Harper would be different. But then again it's not Harper that runs Canada it's those civil servants in Ottawa, in our case Transport Canada.
GM should tell Transport Canada to go f themselves until the agree to accept US standards.
Pay $75,000 for a US 2008 Z06 then have to park it in my driveway????? Come on...what kind of crap do we have to put up with from Ottawa anyway.
It's not the government's fault, it's the auto manufacturers. They're the ones that have to tell the government which of their US models will meet Canadian standards, and if they choose to say none of them do (as GM is doing), then the government can't really second guess them. I applaud the government's decision to not be the automaker's enforcers any longer, and at least let the vehicles through customs.
Even if we get past this hurdle, the automakers will likely just throw up others. Maybe they'll start being even tougher on warranties. For Vettes, I'm really surprised anyone can get the bumper mods necessary to certify them in Canada ... I thought for sure GM would have dried up the entire supply of them by now.
Even if we get past this hurdle, the automakers will likely just throw up others. Maybe they'll start being even tougher on warranties. For Vettes, I'm really surprised anyone can get the bumper mods necessary to certify them in Canada ... I thought for sure GM would have dried up the entire supply of them by now.
1) The Warranty issue is taken care of by a case against Toyota Canada. Basically when a company uses the term 'Toyota Motors' or 'Toyota' that name is enforceable under contract anywhere in the world. Hence a Toyota USA warranty suddenly becomes a Toyota Canada warranty when you bring that car to Canada. It's not a problem if you're willing to fight it.
2) They always build more parts than there are cars. Always.
The Court has no sympathy for semantics when it comes to Toyota v. Toyota Canada or this 'pulling of warranties' when it crosses an international boundary. The same would hold true for any manufacturer, including GM.
It's not the government's fault, it's the auto manufacturers. They're the ones that have to tell the government which of their US models will meet Canadian standards, and if they choose to say none of them do (as GM is doing), then the government can't really second guess them.
In 5 years why has Transport Canada not harmonized motor vehicle regulations. They started 5 years ago. Yes, it is our Government who enable the automakers to prevent us from importing, registering and using certain 2008 U.S. vehicles in Canada. Good for GM trying to survive. I would do the same if I owned a business and had a government helping my like Transport Canada is helping the automakers.
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I applaud the government's decision to not be the automaker's enforcers any longer, and at least let the vehicles through customs
What are you going to do with a 2008 Corvette once you get it here and can't drive it on the street? Garage fixture?
245onQEW gave you the straight goods on warranty.
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Even if we get past this hurdle, the automakers will likely just throw up others.
Yeah, they do their best in the U.S. to control inventory levels in a region but the difference here is that the Canadian taxpayer is paying to protect the profits of automobile manufacturers by funding the arrogant bureaucracy at Transport Canada and by paying more for new and used cars in Canada.
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For Vettes, I'm really surprised anyone can get the bumper mods necessary to certify them in Canada ... I thought for sure GM would have dried up the entire supply of them by now.
What difference will there be in the damage to a car with a Canadian 5MPH bumper and a 2.5 MPH bumper at 40 or 50 KMPH? This is just another example of the BS that we have had to live with in Canada because of Transport Canada bureaucrats running the politicians lives and not the other way around. Why would the Transport Minister go along with the United Nations certified immobilizers when Transport Canada conveniently forgot they were not compliant with the U.S. standard. I doubt that the Transport Minister even knew the difference when he made the immobilizer announcement. The bureaucrats blindsided him.
Nice CTS 1500CC. Just announced as Motor Trend Car of the Year. GM at it finest, except for the C6 that is.
Hi,
As most of you probably know, GM Canada has told the RIV that all of it's 2008 lineup is inadmissible for importation by individuals, supposedly due to the immobilizer issue that went into law Sept 1st 2007. Even the installation of a Transport Canada approved immobilizer at Speedy Auto Glass etc... will not get you the needed approval from GM.
As for our beloved Vettes, even though GM US states on their web site that all 2008's (like the '05's up) come standard with an immobilizer, GM has banned them from import, even if built before the Sept 1st deadline.
Well there appears to be a glimmer of hope in our fight against GM and the others! Read this from yesterday's Montreal Gazette http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...4bff4a&k=96491
This doesn't mean that it's a done deal, but at least it's a step in the right direction towards fair pricing in Canada for all of us.
Another theft deterrant device that stops the rookies and barely slows the pros from stealing your car.
The only 'true' immobilizer is a hidden fuel cut-off switch, which actually disables the fuel pumps ability to pump fuel to the engine, thereby immobilizing your vehicle. I've only seen 3 cars with this in my life, all of which cost more than a pretty penny. Even then it can be towed away by some self-righteous prick with a tow truck or flat-bed.
If you really want to protect yourself, I've never heard anything bad offline/online about Boomerang GPS Anti-Theft/Recovery Systems. Of course maybe this statement will open up that door...
Another theft deterrant device that stops the rookies and barely slows the pros from stealing your car.
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Originally Posted by 245onQEW
The only 'true' immobilizer is a hidden fuel cut-off switch, which actually disables the fuel pumps ability to pump fuel to the engine, thereby immobilizing your vehicle. I've only seen 3 cars with this in my life, all of which cost more than a pretty penny. Even then it can be towed away by some self-righteous prick with a tow truck or flat-bed.
If you really want to protect yourself, I've never heard anything bad offline/online about Boomerang GPS Anti-Theft/Recovery Systems. Of course maybe this statement will open up that door...
So they don't want you to import vehicles because of a lacking theft-deterrent device? Doesn't make sense to me
If you really want to protect yourself, I've never heard anything bad offline/online about Boomerang GPS Anti-Theft/Recovery Systems. Of course maybe this statement will open up that door...
I've heard good things about this one too, at least in terms of not letting them get it started.
I noticed this word in the Gazette article. Had to look it up...
vituperation noun
abusive or venomous language used to express blame or censure or bitter deep-seated ill will
I don't think consumers will be able to beat the collective will of the automakers and the feds. If they want to close this gap it's only a matter of time. Import your pre-08s before they shut that too.
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Some hope in the fight against GM Canada on importing!
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