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Old 11-14-2007, 04:15 AM   #1
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The email address of:

Your MP:
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Comp....aspx?Menu=HOC


Ministers of the Crown can be found at:

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Comp...rovincial.aspx

Selected Ministers:

Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities
The Honourable Lawrence Cannon, P.C.
Cannon.L@parl.gc.ca

(Industry) - Auto Policy and Community Economic Dev., Federal Economic Dev. Initiative for Northern Ontario, Industry, Science Research and Development, Steel Policy, Women Entrepreneurs, Montreal Region, (Health) Health and Public Health
Mr. Steven Fletcher, M.P.
Fletcher.S@parl.gc.ca

Prime Minister
The Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C.
pm@pm.gc.ca


President of the Treasury Board
The Honourable John Baird, P.C.
Baird.J@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Industry and Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Honourable Maxime Bernier, P.C.
Bernier.M@parl.gc.ca

Minister of International Trade
The Honourable David Emerson, P.C.
Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Finance
The Honourable James Flaherty, P.C.
Flaherty.J@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Honourable Peter McKay, P.C.
Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca


Leader of Gov't in House of Commons, Parliamentary Afffairs
Mr. Tom Lukiwski, M.P.
Lukiwski.T@parl.gc.ca

Special Advisor to Priorities & Planning
The Right Honourable Paul Martin
Martin.P@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
The Honourable Robert Nicholson, P.C.
Nicholson.R@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Industry
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C.
Prentice.J@parl.gc.ca

Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole
The Honourable Chuck Strahl, M.P
Strahl.C@parl.gc.ca

President of the Treasury Board
The Honourable Vic Toews, P.C.
Toews.V@parl.gc.ca

President of the Queen's Privy Council
The Honourable Peter VanLoan, P.C.
VanLoan.P@parl.gc.ca


The Opposition Critics:


Critic: Transport
The Honourable Joseph Volpe
Volpe.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: International Trade
Mr. Navdeep Bains, M.P.
Bains.N@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Public Safety (including the Canadian Border Services Agency and Public Health)
Ms. Sue Barnes, M.P.
Barnes.S@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry
The Honourable Scott BRISON, M.P,
Brison.S@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Heritage - Status of Women, Intergovernmental Affairs, Privy Council
Ms. Paule Brunelle, M.P.
Brunelle.P@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Transport) Infrastructure and Communities, (Labour) Labour, (Treasury) Public Accounts, (Industry) Steel Policy
Mr. David Christopherson, M.P.
Christopherson.D@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Justice) Justice and Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, and (Environment) Great Lakes Ecosystem
Mr. Joe Comartin, M.P.
Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Industry) Community Economic Dev., (Health) Health, (Natural Resources) Natural Resources, and (Heritage) Status of Women, Aboriginal, Indian Affairs
Ms. Jean Crowder, M.P.
CrowdJ@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Labour and Econ. Dev. for Quebec) Housing and Leader of Gov't in House, and (Heritage) Multiculturalism
Ms. Libby Davies, M.P.
Davies.L@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Treasury Board - Crown Corporations, National Capital Commission
Mr. Paul Dewar, M.P.
Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca

Leader of the Opposition
The Honourable Stephane Dion
Dion.S@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Foreign Affairs
The Honourable Ujjal Dosanjh, M.P.
Dosanjh.U@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Prime Minister
Mr. Gilles Duceppe, M.P.
Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Leader of Gov't in House, Democratic Reform
Mr. Michel Gauthier, M.P.
Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Foreign Affairs
Mr. Yves Godin, M.P.
Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca


Critic: Leader of Gov't in House
The Honourable Ralph Goodale
Goodale.R@parl.gc.ca

Deputy Leader of the Opposition
Mr. Michael Ignatieff
Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca


Critic: Justice
The Honourable Marlene Jennings, M.P.


Critic: Int'l Trade - Globalization and International Trade
Mr. Peter Julian, M.P.
Julian.P@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Foreign Affairs
Ms. Francine Lalonde, M.P.
Lalonde.F@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Prime Minister
Mr. Jack Layton, M.P.
Layton.J@parl.gc.ca

Vice Chair - LPC Policy & Platform Cttee
The Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, M.P.
Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Finance
Mr. Yvan Loubier, M.P.
Loubier.Y@parl.gc.ca

Treasury Board
Mr. Pat Martin, M.P.
Martin.Pd@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry - Auto Policy, Science, Research and Development, Competitiveness & the New Economy, Consumer Affairs - Public Safety - Canada Border Services
Mr. Brian Masse, M.P.
Masse.B@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Finance
The Honourable John McCallum, M.P.
McCallum.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry - Consumer Affairs and Consular Services
The Honourable Dan McTeague, M.P.
McTeague.D@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Int'l Trade) Globalization and International Trade
Mr. Pierre Paquette, M.P.
Paquette.P@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Deputy House Leader
The Honourable Lucienne Robillard, M.P.
Robillard.L@parl.gc.ca

Critic: National Revenue
The Honourable Judy Sgro, M.P.
Sgro.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Treasury Board
Hon. Raymond Simard, M.P.
Simard.R@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry - Competitiveness & the New Economy
The Honourable Belinda Stronach
Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca

Chair - Caucus Cttee Canada & the World
Hon. Bryon Wilfert
Wilfert.B@parl.gc.ca


Draft Message:

November 13, 2007

Copy and Paste Name of Member of Parliament
Copy and Paste Title of Minister, if any
Copy and Past Email Address of Member of Parliamnet

Dear Copy and Past Name of Member of Parliament:

Re: Motor vehicle regulation harmonization - NAFTA

I am very concerned that the failure of Transport Canada to harmonize motor vehicle safety regulations under NAFTA has resulted in Canadian voters being greatly disadvantaged.

Canadian purchasers of motor vehicles from Canadian dealers currently and in the recent past have paid substantially more than Americans even after adjustment for foreign exchange.

In the absence of harmonization, Canadian taxpayers continue to pay for the implementation and administration by Transport Canada of the unharmonized Canadian motor vehicle regulations.

Not only has Transport Canada failed at harmonization, but they continue to make the regulations more onerous (e.g. immobilizers). As a result Canadians do not have the freedom to purchase certain new and used 2008 vehicles in the United States at prices lower than those offered in Canada by dealers of the Canadian subsidiary of the manufacturer.

Given that approximately five years have passed since the harmonization efforts began in 2002, it appears that the Government of Canada and those responsible for harmonization in Transport Canada do not wish harmonization to occur. There is a conflict of interest within Transport Canada, as part of it would be redundant if harmonization was achieved.

Why is the Conservative Government creating further roadblocks to harmonization by introducing the requirement for an immobilizer?

What are you going to do to ensure that harmonization occurs by the end of 2008 and that no further government action will results in the benefits of harmonization being lost to Canadians?


______________________ _____________________
Signature Email address


_____________________ ______________________________ ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬_____________________
Print Name Civic address including postal code Telephone number
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:02 AM   #2
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Message is below.

The email address of:

Your MP:
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Comp....aspx?Menu=HOC


Ministers of the Crown can be found at:

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Comp...rovincial.aspx

Selected Ministers:

Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities
The Honourable Lawrence Cannon, P.C.
Cannon.L@parl.gc.ca

(Industry) - Auto Policy and Community Economic Dev., Federal Economic Dev. Initiative for Northern Ontario, Industry, Science Research and Development, Steel Policy, Women Entrepreneurs, Montreal Region, (Health) Health and Public Health
Mr. Steven Fletcher, M.P.
Fletcher.S@parl.gc.ca

Prime Minister
The Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C.
pm@pm.gc.ca


President of the Treasury Board
The Honourable John Baird, P.C.
Baird.J@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Industry and Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Honourable Maxime Bernier, P.C.
Bernier.M@parl.gc.ca

Minister of International Trade
The Honourable David Emerson, P.C.
Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Finance
The Honourable James Flaherty, P.C.
Flaherty.J@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Honourable Peter McKay, P.C.
Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca


Leader of Gov't in House of Commons, Parliamentary Afffairs
Mr. Tom Lukiwski, M.P.
Lukiwski.T@parl.gc.ca

Special Advisor to Priorities & Planning
The Right Honourable Paul Martin
Martin.P@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
The Honourable Robert Nicholson, P.C.
Nicholson.R@parl.gc.ca

Minister of Industry
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C.
Prentice.J@parl.gc.ca

Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole
The Honourable Chuck Strahl, M.P
Strahl.C@parl.gc.ca

President of the Treasury Board
The Honourable Vic Toews, P.C.
Toews.V@parl.gc.ca

President of the Queen's Privy Council
The Honourable Peter VanLoan, P.C.
VanLoan.P@parl.gc.ca


The Opposition Critics:


Critic: Transport
The Honourable Joseph Volpe
Volpe.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: International Trade
Mr. Navdeep Bains, M.P.
Bains.N@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Public Safety (including the Canadian Border Services Agency and Public Health)
Ms. Sue Barnes, M.P.
Barnes.S@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry
The Honourable Scott BRISON, M.P,
Brison.S@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Heritage - Status of Women, Intergovernmental Affairs, Privy Council
Ms. Paule Brunelle, M.P.
Brunelle.P@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Transport) Infrastructure and Communities, (Labour) Labour, (Treasury) Public Accounts, (Industry) Steel Policy
Mr. David Christopherson, M.P.
Christopherson.D@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Justice) Justice and Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, and (Environment) Great Lakes Ecosystem
Mr. Joe Comartin, M.P.
Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Industry) Community Economic Dev., (Health) Health, (Natural Resources) Natural Resources, and (Heritage) Status of Women, Aboriginal, Indian Affairs
Ms. Jean Crowder, M.P.
CrowdJ@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Labour and Econ. Dev. for Quebec) Housing and Leader of Gov't in House, and (Heritage) Multiculturalism
Ms. Libby Davies, M.P.
Davies.L@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Treasury Board - Crown Corporations, National Capital Commission
Mr. Paul Dewar, M.P.
Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca

Leader of the Opposition
The Honourable Stephane Dion
Dion.S@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Foreign Affairs
The Honourable Ujjal Dosanjh, M.P.
Dosanjh.U@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Prime Minister
Mr. Gilles Duceppe, M.P.
Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Leader of Gov't in House, Democratic Reform
Mr. Michel Gauthier, M.P.
Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Foreign Affairs
Mr. Yves Godin, M.P.
Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca


Critic: Leader of Gov't in House
The Honourable Ralph Goodale
Goodale.R@parl.gc.ca

Deputy Leader of the Opposition
Mr. Michael Ignatieff
Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca


Critic: Justice
The Honourable Marlene Jennings, M.P.


Critic: Int'l Trade - Globalization and International Trade
Mr. Peter Julian, M.P.
Julian.P@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Foreign Affairs
Ms. Francine Lalonde, M.P.
Lalonde.F@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Prime Minister
Mr. Jack Layton, M.P.
Layton.J@parl.gc.ca

Vice Chair - LPC Policy & Platform Cttee
The Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, M.P.
Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Finance
Mr. Yvan Loubier, M.P.
Loubier.Y@parl.gc.ca

Treasury Board
Mr. Pat Martin, M.P.
Martin.Pd@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry - Auto Policy, Science, Research and Development, Competitiveness & the New Economy, Consumer Affairs - Public Safety - Canada Border Services
Mr. Brian Masse, M.P.
Masse.B@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Finance
The Honourable John McCallum, M.P.
McCallum.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry - Consumer Affairs and Consular Services
The Honourable Dan McTeague, M.P.
McTeague.D@parl.gc.ca

Critic: (Int'l Trade) Globalization and International Trade
Mr. Pierre Paquette, M.P.
Paquette.P@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Deputy House Leader
The Honourable Lucienne Robillard, M.P.
Robillard.L@parl.gc.ca

Critic: National Revenue
The Honourable Judy Sgro, M.P.
Sgro.J@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Treasury Board
Hon. Raymond Simard, M.P.
Simard.R@parl.gc.ca

Critic: Industry - Competitiveness & the New Economy
The Honourable Belinda Stronach
Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca

Chair - Caucus Cttee Canada & the World
Hon. Bryon Wilfert
Wilfert.B@parl.gc.ca


Draft Message:

November 13, 2007

Copy and Paste Name of Member of Parliament
Copy and Paste Title of Minister, if any
Copy and Past Email Address of Member of Parliamnet

Dear Copy and Past Name of Member of Parliament:

Re: Motor vehicle regulation harmonization - NAFTA

I am very concerned that the failure of Transport Canada to harmonize motor vehicle safety regulations under NAFTA has resulted in Canadian voters being greatly disadvantaged.

Canadian purchasers of motor vehicles from Canadian dealers currently and in the recent past have paid substantially more than Americans even after adjustment for foreign exchange.

In the absence of harmonization, Canadian taxpayers continue to pay for the implementation and administration by Transport Canada of the unharmonized Canadian motor vehicle regulations.

Not only has Transport Canada failed at harmonization, but they continue to make the regulations more onerous (e.g. immobilizers). As a result Canadians do not have the freedom to purchase certain new and used 2008 vehicles in the United States at prices lower than those offered in Canada by dealers of the Canadian subsidiary of the manufacturer.

Given that approximately five years have passed since the harmonization efforts began in 2002, it appears that the Government of Canada and those responsible for harmonization in Transport Canada do not wish harmonization to occur. There is a conflict of interest within Transport Canada, as part of it would be redundant if harmonization was achieved.

Why is the Conservative Government creating further roadblocks to harmonization by introducing the requirement for an immobilizer?

What are you going to do to ensure that harmonization occurs by the end of 2008 and that no further government action will results in the benefits of harmonization being lost to Canadians?


______________________ _____________________
Signature Email address


_____________________ ______________________________ ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬_____________________
Print Name Civic address including postal code Telephone number


Good stuff! Thanks!
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:15 AM   #3
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It just occurred to me, we have WAY too much Government.
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Excellent and very thorough--like everything else on this site!!! I have Emailed one and copied my MP locally also.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:06 PM   #5
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:01 AM   #6
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Wow that is a very well written, diplomatic letter, I don't think I could get past "Hey quit ripping us off "
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Good work.

Now we need to have one done like this to help in the fight to get rid of the front license plate.
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DONE! E-mailed mine off today. Thanks for the links!
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Just to show everyone some MP's do care and respond, here's an e-mail I received this morning.


"Dear Mr. Kelly,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding vehicle safety standards.

Transport Canada's List of Admissible Vehicles for the U.S. is based on manufacturers voluntarily providing information about whether vehicles manufactured for the U.S. market meet Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. Since this list, last updated on November 1, 2007, relies on third-party information, it is subject to change without notice.

The Minister of Transportation, Infrastructure and Communities is working on finding a solution that strikes a balance between improving road safety for Canadians, and helping reduce any inconvenience consumers may have faced because of the coincidental rise of the Canadian dollar with the implementation date of the anti-theft immobilizer regulation.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact my office.

Sincerely,

Mike Wallace"
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Just to show everyone some MP's do care and respond, here's an e-mail I received this morning.


"Dear Mr. Kelly,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding vehicle safety standards.

Transport Canada's List of Admissible Vehicles for the U.S. is based on manufacturers voluntarily providing information about whether vehicles manufactured for the U.S. market meet Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. Since this list, last updated on November 1, 2007, relies on third-party information, it is subject to change without notice.

The Minister of Transportation, Infrastructure and Communities is working on finding a solution that strikes a balance between improving road safety for Canadians, and helping reduce any inconvenience consumers may have faced because of the coincidental rise of the Canadian dollar with the implementation date of the anti-theft immobilizer regulation.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact my office.

Sincerely,

Mike Wallace"
Got the same letter from Vic Toews, President of the Treasury Board..a local MP. Hopefully they will do something sensible like harmonize the safety standards with the US. A MP who talked to the Minister of Transport told me that the Minister of Transport was not aware that harmonization was at the root of the problem. The stuff that the Transport Canada guys want is a little unbelievable and is summarized at the bottom of the following document.

For those of you who haven't seen this and are interested?

HARMONIZED VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS WITH THE U.S

TRANSPORT CANADA BUREAUCRATS RESIST HARMONIZATION TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE CANADIAN CAR BUYER

EXPRESS YOUR AGREEMENT WITH CANADA HAVING A HARMONIZED VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD TO LOWER CANADIAN CAR PRICES, YOU ONLY HAVE TO FILL IN THREE FIELDS ON THIS WEBSITE:
http://www.carswithoutborders.com/join-the-petition/

If you are in agreement with this petition, please forward this e-mail to everyone in your address book as this matter effects all Canadian car buyers.

If the Government listens to the citizens of Canada who have signed this petition or written the Transport Minister or MP, there should be a reduction of vehicle prices in Canada. This will will allow Canadians with a set amount of dollars to buy a newer, safer, more fuel efficient and environmentally friendly car than would otherwise be possible.

The www.carswithoutborders.com group came about since September 1, 2007 as a result of over 1,000 Canadians having purchased motor vehicles which were “Admissable" for importation at the time of their purchase in the U.S. and by the time the Canadian purchaser reached the Canadian border to enter Canada, Transport Canada had changed the status of their U.S. vehicle to "Inadmissable". As a result of the experience of the www.carswithoutborders group, many more Canadians are now becoming aware of the excessive premiums being charged in Canada for motor vehicles.

Transport Canada has created non-tariff trade barriers that limit the ability of Canadians to buy less costly vehicles in the U.S. Presently, Canadians are prevented from importing most 2008 GM and Ford vehicles and those 2008 models of many other auto manufacturers because of Transport Canada motor vehicle regulations. As set out below, Transport Canada appears to be unwilling to harmonize motor vehicle regulations with the U.S. which results in Canadians being unable to buy many 2008 models in the U.S. While the requirement for the motor vehicle manufacturers to comply as of September 1, 2007 with an unharmonized immobilizer standard has made the change in the immobilizer regulation a pressing issue, what is really needed is harmonization of all of the standards to permit allow Canadians to purchase amy 2008 motor vehicle in the U.S. without worrying about the changing admissability list of Transport Canada. The right of Canadians to purchase any 2008 motor vehicle in the U.S. without any modification(s) (as is presently the case with some vehicles) would result in pressure on Canadian dealers and Canadian subsidiaries of the auto manufacturers to lower car prices in Canada. If you wish to see the present List of Admissable Vehicles, please go to www.riv.ca which is the site of that part of a logistics firm (Livingston International LIV.UN) contracted by Transport Canada to process imported vehicles.

Examples of motor vehicle price differences between Canada and the United States from: http://www.ataleoftwoprices.com:

2008 Toyota Camry - 25% to 35% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim

2008 Chevrolet Impala - 16% to 27% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim

2008 Ford Mustang - 21% to 33% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim

2008 Ford Taurus - 34% to 38% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim

2008 Chrysler PT Cruiser - 36% to 41% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim
2008 Honda Civic - 15% to 27% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim.

2008 Lexus LS - 40% to 42% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim

2008 BMW 5 Series - 36% to 43% more in Canada than U.S. depending on trim

ORIGINS OF HARMONIZATION
Since 2002, Transport Canada bureaucrats appear to have scuttled motor vehicle regulation harmonization with the US. harmonization of motor vehicle regulations between Canada and the U.S. was an initiative that was started by former Transport Minister Allan Rock in June 2002 by the formation of the Canadian Automotive Partnership Council ("CAPC"). CAPC consists of the stakeholders in the harmonization process including Transport Canada and motor vehicle manufacturers.

WHAT TRANSPORT CANADA HAS DONE TO PREVENT HARMONIZATION FROM OCCURRING – RESULT – HIGHER CANADIAN CAR PRICES

In the May 4, 2007 Report referred to below, it was stated that "No regulations have been harmonized since the last CAPC meeting.

Exerpts from:
Canadian Automotive Partnership Council
Regulatory Harmonization Working Group
Progress Report - May 4, 2007
http://capcinfo.ca/english/reports/d...egHarmon_e.pdf

and

Vehicle Manufacturers in the North American Environment
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America
Canadian Automotive Partnership Council
June 2005
http://capcinfo.ca/english/reports/r...05.html#impact

(1) Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standard ("CMVSS") 208 - Frontal impact occupant protection standards

May 4, 2007 Report

- Canada has not demonstrated that there is a field problem with the current occupant protection systems. With a non-harmonized regulation, Canada risks foregoing the benefits of U.S. advanced systems or compelling more expensive unique Canadian variants of vehicles, or both.
- TC has hired a U.S. academic to conduct additional cost benefit analysis and risk analysis.
- Revised proposals continue to seek unique Canadian requirements, so this issue is coded yellow
- It has been seven years since FMVSS 208 was finalized and TC still has not completed its analysis.

June 2005 Report

- Transport Canada has proposed requirements for Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (CMVSS) 208 for Frontal Occupant Protection that are not harmonized with the belted requirements contained in the recently amended U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 208.
- Transport Canada acknowledges that no Canadian field data is available that would specifically support the intended unique Canadian chest protection requirements. In the absence of unique Canadian data, industry can see no technological reason for a different chest deflection standard in Canada.
- Transport Canada's proposal would create a further disharmonized regulation despite the fact that they have failed to demonstrate material public benefit that would otherwise be observed from harmonizing with the equivalent U.S. 208. Transport Canada's own benefit analysis, which the industry feels is overstated, indicates only a ½ of 1% reduction in fatalities and injuries. Considering that approx 40% of all vehicle related fatalities and injuries are still related to impaired driving and approximately 35% are related to unbelted occupants, the government may want to consider focusing their efforts on areas of occupant safety that present greater opportunities for reduction, such as these driver behaviors.

(2) CMVSS 215 – Bumpers

May 4, 2007 Report

- Canada has unique bumper requirements (damageability) and is not
currently planning to harmonize this standard.
- This requirement has precluded products from the Canadian market; these are generally low volume or cost sensitive products.

June 2005 Report

- There is no evidence that (ed. Canadian motor vehicle) bumper standards provide any measure of on-road safety and therefore the standard is simply a damageability requirement that provides no safety benefit.
- In order for manufacturers to build a vehicle for both the Canadian and U.S. markets, it must be tested to both standards. This increases vehicle development cost and in some cases can and does result in limiting the choice of vehicles for Canadian consumers, particularly when projected Canadian sales volumes do not justify the additional engineering and testing resources to certify to the unique Canadian requirements.
- Canadian standards stipulate an impact to the front or rear of the vehicle at 8 km/h (5 mph) and pendulum impacts on the corner of the vehicle at 4.8 km/h (3 mph). The Canadian test allows for minimal exterior damage as long as there is no damage to or degradation of the performance of the overall vehicle safety systems or vehicle performance.
- The U.S. standard, by comparison, requires front and rear impacts at 2.5 mph (4.0 km/h) and pendulum corner impacts at 1.5 mph (2.4 km/h) - only half the speed of Canadian tests. The U.S. test permits no damage or permanent deformation of the vehicle, other than cosmetic scratches on bumper covers and sight shields.

(3) CMVSS 114 Immobilizer

May 4, 2007 Report

- The regulation contains performance requirements for which there is no test method or procedure to demonstrate compliance, contrary to government policy.
- TC without the knowledge of the Canadian industry proposed a revision to an ECE regulation (which was rejected) and TC added the new requirements to the final regulation in a manner inconsistent with regulatory process requirements.

June 2005 Report

- Most new vehicles sold in Canada are currently equipped with immobilizers, which can shut the vehicle down or prevent the vehicle from operating if the ignition is by-passed. These immobilizers meet the level of performance required by Transport Canada, and it is felt that most of those vehicles currently not equipped will either soon be so-equipped or those models will be discontinued. In spite of this situation and extensive discussions towards an MOU (ed. Memorandum of Understanding), Transport Canada has amended the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations to require immobilizers (ed.to Transport Canada standard) on all new vehicles under 4 356 kg gross vehicle weight, starting with the 2008 model year (effective September 1, 2007).

(4) Self Certification

May 4, 2007 Report
- Transport Canada's (TC) discussion paper on proposed revisions to the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (MSVA) would have the effect of restricting the automotive manufacturers' ability to certify vehicles using available tools including advanced, state of the art, computerized techniques (correlated to physical tests) and engineering judgment. TC is attempting to prescribe how manufacturers certify their vehicles under the Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Act in order to make compliance audits easier. The use of advanced methods to support certification speeds the implementation of advanced technologies and supports robust testing and compliance.
- TC, to date, has not indicated a change in its position on this issue or timeframe for its resolution.

(5) Emissions Monitoring and Reporting

May 4, 2007 Report
- The federal government is currently developing a GHG reporting system which may not be harmonized with the Ontario system.
- Environment Canada has proposed additional reporting obligations for process level emissions of Criteria Air Contaminants beyond those required of U.S. facilities.

June 2005 Report

- Current Canadian regulations require that new vehicles be certified to meet U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Tier 2 emission standards.These Tier 2 standards are the most stringent emissions standards in the world. Through a phase in process that will be completed by 2009, both cars and light trucks, including Sport Utility Vehicles (SUVs), will be grouped for the first time into a common set of emissions requirements. Meeting these emission standards represents a challenge to reducing fuel consumption, and as a result reducing carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions which are directly related to the amount of fuel consumed. Consumption reducing technologies such as direct injection compression ignition (diesel) and direct injection (gasoline) engines are challenged by tight emissions standards. However, even with the introduction of new technologies and the common process with the U.S., Canada's ability to meet these requirements is still severely challenged because of differing fuel quality. Under the Tier 2 program, the in-use performance of emission control systems must be maintained for the useful life of the vehicle or 190,000 kilometers.
Attaining this long life requirement is highly dependant on fuel quality, which in Canada, has been compromised by the addition of manganese-based fuel additives in most consumer purchased fuel. In general, fuel suppliers have temporarily suspended the use of manganese-based additives in gasoline refining pending the outcome of the Government's independent scientific third party review. Unfortunately this review continues to be delayed by the government and seriously risks the re-introduction of this metal-based fuel additive.

Key Recommendations:
- Continued harmonization of fuel economy targets between Canada and the US remain a high priority in order to ensure Canadians benefit from the economies of scale associated with harmonized automotive product and the resulting technology and cost benefits associated.
- Maintain consistent fuel economy standards between Canada and the US.
Ensure Canadian CAFC remains a voluntary program with targets that are fully harmonized with US CAFÉ.
- Ensure implementation of harmonized vehicle emissions standards does not lead to costly duplication of in-use vehicle emissions compliance testing in Canada.

(6) Additional list of unique Canadian requirements:

June 2005 Report

- CMVSS 101 - Requires metric cluster (speedometer/odometer) and permits/requires ISO symbols
- CMVSS 108 - Requires Daytime Running Lamps
- CMVSS 201 - Not as stringent as FMVSS 201 - CMVSS 201 was not amended to adopt the FMVSS Final Rule that was effective September 1, 1998
- CMVSS 205 - References ANSI Z26 1996, but allows testing to ANSI Z26 1990 at the manufacturer's option.
- 208CMVSS 210.1 and 210.2 - equivalent to FMVSS 225 - minor differences
- CMVSS 214 - Does not include dynamic test requirements; however, manufacturers have signed a Memorandum of Understanding which commits us to market vehicles that meet FMVSS 214 and satisfy the OOP Guidelines developed by the Alliance Transport Canada requires Canadians to make certain modifications to certain admissable vehicles imported from the U.S.. For example, Transport Canada requires certain vehicles to have the U.S. foam bumper absorber to be replaced notwithstanding the U.S. bumper absorber meeting the FMVSS as set out below (including a comparison with the Canadian standard).

Transport Canada requires a Recall Letter for admissable vehicles imported from the U.S. The manufacturers or dealers charge for a Recall Letter ranges from approximately $27.50 for a GM product to $500.00 for a BMW to $5,000.00 for a Ferrari. An expensive one page print out.
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So they created new rules and regulations for the immobilizers but didn't create any way for the manufacturers to test their existing devices to see if they meet the spec! Classic bureaucratic bumbling!

No wonder the manufacturers are all over the map on admissability of the '08 cars.
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This is what the Government is proposing:

Vol. 141, No. 48 — December 1, 2007
Regulations Amending the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (Importation of
Vehicles — Section 12)
Statutory authority
Motor Vehicle Safety Act
Sponsoring department
Department of Transport
REGULATORY IMPACT ANALYSIS STATEMENT
(This statement is not part of the Regulations.)
Description
Starting September 1, 2007, vehicles manufactured for sale in Canada and imported into Canada have been required to be equipped with an electronic immobilization system. The introduction of this requirement has resulted in the need to clarify the process for private importation of motor vehicles. This clarification is needed as vehicles, which were purchased in the United States by many Canadian consumers at the retail level, are being denied entry into Canada. This amendment will mitigate the economic hardship to Canadian consumers who have purchased vehicles in the United States and are unable to license them in Canada.
This proposed amendment modifies section 12, "Importation of a Vehicle Purchased in the United States," of the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (MVSR), to clarify the vehicle theft immobilization requirements for vehicles imported into Canada that are sold at the retail level in the United States. This proposed amendment clarifies that vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States, that are equipped at the time of manufacture with an electronic immobilization system, may be imported into Canada and that those vehicles that do not have an electronic immobilization system may be imported if the vehicle can be safely fitted with an aftermarket immobilization system.
This amendment is intended to offer more flexibility to vehicle importers while maintaining comparable safety requirements for imported vehicles as are provided by vehicles sold at the retail level in Canada. This amendment would not impose any new requirement on vehicle manufacturers or importers; rather, it facilitates consumer choice and clarifies the importation process for vehicles regarding theft immobilization systems, while maintaining safety for Canadians.
Background
The Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (CMVSS) 114, Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention, hereafter referred to as the Canadian safety standard, governs the design and performance of theft and inadvertent rollaway protection. This Canadian safety standard was modified in 2005 (see footnote 1) to include the requirement that every light-duty, non-emergency vehicle must be equipped with an electronic immobilization system as of September 1, 2007.
The Canadian safety standard includes the following requirements:
• Starting September 1, 2007, every passenger car, every three-wheeled vehicle and every multi-purpose passenger vehicle and truck with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 4 536 kg or less, except walk-in vans and emergency vehicles, must be equipped with an immobilization system that, at the option of the manufacturer, meets one of the following standards:
• National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98, entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems: Electronic Immobilization; (see footnote 2)
• Part III of ECE Regulation No. 97, entitled Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Vehicle Alarm Systems (VAS) and of Motor Vehicles with Regard to Their Alarm Systems (AS); (see footnote 3) and
• Part IV of ECE Regulation No. 116, entitled Uniform Technical Prescriptions Concerning the Protection of Motor Vehicles Against Unauthorized Use. (see footnote 4)
The requirement for vehicles to be equipped with electronic immobilization systems was prompted by research, (see footnote 5) which indicated that the installation of immobilization systems that make it difficult for the car engine to be started would reduce vehicle theft. Immobilizers are noted for significantly reducing theft for convenience, which frequently involves youth offenders. Studies have estimated the direct dollar losses from motor vehicle theft in Canada to be $600 million per year. (see footnote 6) Furthermore, these studies have demonstrated that an average of 244 to 345 serious injuries and 11 lives could be saved each year if immobilization systems were installed on all Canadian vehicles.
During the development of the Canadian safety standard, Canada focused its efforts on improving road safety by reducing theft for convenience, which frequently involves youth offenders. Youth offender theft represents a significant road safety issue, as youth have limited driving experience and often engage in risky behaviours when driving stolen vehicles. Thus, youth theft significantly increases the risk of injury and death to themselves, the other occupants of the vehicle, other road users and police officers.
While Canada has focused its safety efforts on reducing theft for convenience by making the vehicle difficult to steal, the United States' National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has focused its efforts on the identification of vehicles that have been stolen for profit, in other words, vehicles that have been stolen with the intention of disassembling them and selling the individual parts. This regulation is specified in Title 49, Part 541 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Federal Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Standard, and requires that several parts of passenger cars and some trucks be marked for identification purposes.
The NHTSA parts marking regulation allows the alternative of installing theft protection devices as an option in lieu of parts marking, in some specific instances. It also provides, in its Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 114, (see footnote 7) an exclusion from requiring steering locks for vehicles equipped with theft systems. While the NHTSA does support, in limited instances, the installation of theft protection systems, there are no specific federal standards or performance requirements for immobilization systems installed on vehicles sold in the United States.
The absence of a technical requirement for theft protection systems in the United States has resulted in an issue with regards to the private importation into Canada of vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States. Since September 1, 2007, many Canadians have purchased vehicles in the United States and now cannot import them into Canada. As the Canadian and U.S. vehicle safety regulatory regimes are highly harmonized, it is common practice for vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States to be imported into Canada, as provided for under the North American Free Trade Agreement. With the advent of the strong Canadian dollar, there has been an upward trend in the volume of vehicle importations from the United States into Canada from 28 019 vehicles in the year 2000 to 112 826 in 2006, and to a projected 160 000 vehicles for 2007. (see footnote 8)
This proposed amendment clarifies that vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States, that are equipped at the time of manufacture with an electronic immobilization system, may be imported into Canada, and that those vehicles that do not have an electronic immobilization system may be imported if the vehicle can be safely fitted with an immobilization system that conforms to the National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98, entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems: Electronic Immobilization, and the importer declares that they will install such a system before registering the vehicle under the laws of a province, and that the registrar of imported vehicles certifies that the vehicle is in accordance with section 12.
This amendment proposes to deem factory-installed electronic immobilization systems as acceptable on vehicles privately imported from the United States by Canadians. Electronic immobilization systems are very difficult to defeat, as they have over 50 000 different code combinations for the electronic signal. In addition, they frequently require the use of software to allow for the replacement of the vehicle key (transponder) or other system components. Even with the requisite knowledge, replacement parts and the computer software, many systems have a built-in replacement time lag so that any component cannot be immediately replaced and the vehicle driven; often it must sit for five minutes or more. These features, which are built into electronic immobilization systems, greatly restrict the ability of vehicles to be stolen for convenience.
A few vehicle manufacturers have noted lately that they cannot be certain that immobilization systems installed on their vehicles sold in the United States would meet the Canadian safety standard or be modified to make them conform. In addition, manufacturers are reluctant to publicly share the technical information on any potential differences between vehicles destined for the United States and Canadian markets. Information on how to defeat anti-theft immobilization systems should not be commonly available and thus it is in the best interest for the safety of Canadians to find an alternative means of certification for vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States which will be imported into Canada.
Some manufacturers have also noted concern regarding tampering with the electronic system of the vehicle in the event that a second electronic immobilization system would be required. Manufacturers have noted that they cannot ensure that such features as air bag activation will not be compromised. Finally, installing two electronic immobilization systems can create technical challenges and in-use problems, as each system uses an antenna, which can result in interference issues. Requiring the installation of a second electronic immobilization system would also be unnecessarily expensive. Thus, in the interest of safety, this proposed amendment includes the provision that vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States that have, at the time of manufacture, an electronic immobilization system, may be imported into Canada without further modification.
During the development of the Canadian safety standard, clear evidence was brought forward by the insurance industry noting that it is possible to defeat mechanical immobilization systems with limited knowledge and using only simple tools. If the installed system is mechanical, there will not be any interference between it and any additional electronic immobilization system. Thus, regardless of the presence of a mechanical immobilization system, this proposed amendment clarifies the requirement for the installation of an aftermarket immobilization system that meets the National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard, entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems: Electronic Immobilization (May 1998), published by the Underwriters' Laboratories of Canada (ULC), provided the manufacturer has not indicated that the vehicle cannot be safely fitted with this type of aftermarket immobilizer. The CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard has been chosen because it is recognized by the insurance industry as a reference for aftermarket immobilization systems, and electronic immobilization systems meeting this requirement are readily available in Canada for aftermarket installation.
While the Canadian safety standard allows for the installation of both European ECE and Canadian ULC approved systems, this proposed amendment permits only the aftermarket installation of systems meeting the CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard on vehicles that do not have an immobilization system or have only a mechanical immobilization system. This requirement is not expected to cause any burden on importers as ULC-approved aftermarket systems are readily available in Canada and there is a corresponding standard relating to the installation of these devices which the installers can follow.
This proposed amendment would facilitate the private importation of vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States to be imported into Canada, provided the vehicle is equipped with an electronic immobilization system. It would also provide for the installation of an aftermarket immobilization system meeting the CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard, for a vehicle that has a mechanical immobilization system or no immobilization system and the manufacturer has not indicated that the vehicle cannot be safely fitted with this type of aftermarket immobilizer. Consumers will continue to need to verify the list of vehicles that can be imported, which is maintained by Transport Canada, as there may be some vehicles which do not have an electronic immobilization system and cannot be safely retrofitted with an immobilization system.
Alternatives
Status quo
This alternative would continue to have a negative effect on consumers. This would prevent the importation of some vehicles into Canada without presenting a safety disadvantage to the Canadian public. In addition, if manufacturers are required to publicly share information on their specific immobilization system software or hardware to attempt to bring vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States up to the Canadian safety standard, there could be a significant reduction in safety or possibly, higher insurance costs as information on how to defeat the manufacturers' immobilization system would be more easily obtainable.
Eliminate the requirement for imported vehicles to have an immobilization system
Allowing the importation of U.S. vehicles without immobilization systems will, in the cases of vehicles sold with no immobilization system, reduce safety and result in vehicles that can easily be stolen. Past research has shown that once young offenders are aware of how to easily steal one vehicle model, the information spreads quickly and that vehicle model becomes a target for youth theft. Following this option would negate the tremendous success that has been achieved in Canada due to the continued efforts of the insurance industry and several vehicle manufacturers to move towards the voluntary installation of vehicle immobilizers.
Allow for the private importation of vehicles from the United States which have an electronic immobilizer and permit the installation of an aftermarket immobilizer where safety is not compromised
This option will facilitate additional consumer choice by giving Canadians the opportunity of purchasing vehicles at the retail level in the United States, while at the same time providing Canadians with safe vehicles. This alternative proposes two options: accepting vehicles equipped with electronic immobilization systems installed at the time of their manufacture; and, allowing vehicles which have a mechanical immobilizer, or alternatively have no immobilizer, to be fitted with an aftermarket immobilization system that meets the requirements of the CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard, provided that the manufacturer has not indicated that such an immobilization system cannot be safely installed.
Requiring a vehicle to be equipped with an electronic immobilization system has been shown to significantly decrease the risk of property loss, injury and death. This option stipulates the requirements for the installation of aftermarket systems and clarifies when an aftermarket system is needed, thus maintaining the same level of safety for Canadians as would be provided if the vehicle were sold at the retail level in Canada. In addition, it only requires that an aftermarket immobilization system, which is estimated to cost $300 per vehicle, be installed if needed. This option will also require that manufacturers clearly identify the vehicle models that cannot be safely modified, and these vehicle models will be identified as not permitted for importation into Canada.
Benefits and costs
The Government has previously demonstrated the benefit and importance of installing electronic immobilization systems on Canadian vehicles. In addition, it is paramount that all new vehicles have strong immobilization systems. Once young offenders find a means to easily steal a vehicle, this information spreads quickly and that vehicle model becomes a target. This amendment maintains the desire for advanced theft protection systems, while recognizing that no immobilization standard exists in the United States.
This proposed amendment is not expected to have a significant cost implication. In the case where vehicles have an installed electronic immobilization system, there will be no cost implications. In the alternative where the importer will need to install an immobilization system, at an estimated cost of $300, the cost related to this installation is part of the process to make vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States comply with all of the Canadian safety standards. As ECE-approved immobilizers meeting the Canadian safety standard are not available for aftermarket purchase in Canada, no cost implication is expected with the introduction of the CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard as the sole aftermarket performance requirement for immobilizers.
This proposed amendment is not expected to have any significant negative security impact on Canadians.
Consultation
Specific consultations
Recently, the Government has experienced a surge of telephone calls and letters, from the public as a result of the increased number of vehicles which cannot be privately imported from the United States and licensed in Canada. The Government maintains several 1-800 call centers to provide aid to Canadians. The Department of Transport maintains a call centre for issues pertaining to vehicle safety and importation. These operators have been receiving up to 500 telephone calls per day from Canadians interested in additional information on the importation of vehicles.
The Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) [www.riv.ca] operates the national program of vehicle inspection, certification and registration on behalf of Transport Canada. Coincident with the rise of the Canadian dollar and with the introduction of the Canadian safety standard for theft protection, the RIV has been receiving between 5 000 and 7 000 calls daily regarding the importation into Canada of vehicles sold at the retail level in the United States.
The Department of Transport has been consulting and will continue to consult with manufacturers to update the list of vehicles meeting the requirements for importation in Canada.
General communication process
The Department of Transport has instituted a systematic and extensive information process that is intended to keep the automotive industry, public safety organizations, and the general public informed of projected and recent changes to the regulatory requirements governing motor vehicle safety in Canada. This process includes information sessions with the provinces and territories, as well as with the authorities of other countries, and it provides a mechanism for interested parties to comment on the Department's planned initiatives.
In particular, meetings are held three times a year with the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association (CVMA), which represents Canada's leading motor vehicle manufacturers. (see footnote 9) Departmental representatives meet three times a year with the Association of International Automobile Manufacturers of Canada (AIAMC), which represents international motor vehicle manufacturers and importers. (see footnote 10) There are semi-annual meetings with the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council and The Rubber Association of Canada. As well, semi-annual meetings are held with the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Mainly through the Department's membership in the Canadian Council of Motor Transport Administrators, discussions that deal with a broad range of issues take place on a regular basis with the provinces and territories. There are also semi-annual meetings with national public safety organizations in order to discuss future regulatory changes and emerging safety problems.
Compliance and enforcement
Motor vehicle manufacturers and importers are responsible for ensuring that their products comply with the requirements of the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations. The Department of Transport monitors the self-certification programs of manufacturers and importers by reviewing their test documentation, inspecting vehicles, and testing vehicles obtained in the open market. When a defect is found, the manufacturer or importer must issue a notice of defect to owners and to the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities. If a vehicle does not comply with a safety standard, the manufacturer or importer is subject to prosecution and, if found guilty, may be fined as prescribed in the Motor Vehicle Safety Act.
Transport Canada has contracted with Livingston International to establish and operate the national program of vehicle inspection, certification and registration, known as the RIV. The RIV program was set in place to ensure that vehicles imported for use in Canada meet Canadian safety standards. The RIV maintains a network across Canada of over 500 facilities authorized to perform federal inspections. The safety compliance status of inspected vehicles is shared with all provincial and territorial licensing jurisdictions in Canada and a vehicle cannot be licensed before successfully passing the RIV inspection program.
Contact
Daniel B. T. Davis
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fRegulations and Standards
Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation Directorate
Transport Canada
330 Sparks Street, 8th Floor, Tower C
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0N5
Telephone: 613-998-1956
Fax: 613-990-2913
Email: Davisda@tc.gc.ca
PROPOSED REGULATORY TEXT
Notice is hereby given, pursuant to subsection 11(3) of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (see footnote a), that the Governor in Council, pursuant to subsections 7(2) and 11(1) of that Act, proposes to make the annexed Regulations Amending the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (Importation of Vehicles — Section 12).
Interested persons may make representations to the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities with respect to the proposed Regulations within 15 days after the date of publication of this notice. All such representations must be in writing and cite the Canada Gazette, Part I, and the date of publication of this notice, and be sent to Daniel B. T. Davis, Chief, Regulations and Standards, Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation Directorate, Department of Transport, Place de Ville, Tower C, 8th Floor, 330 Sparks Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N5 (tel.: 613-998-1956; fax: 613-990-2913; e-mail: davisda@tc.gc.ca).
Ottawa, November 29, 2007
MARY PICHETTE
Acting Assistant Clerk of the Privy Council
REGULATIONS AMENDING THE MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY REGULATIONS (IMPORTATION OF VEHICLES — SECTION 12)
AMENDMENT
1. Section 12 of the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (see footnote 11) is amended by adding the following after subsection (4):
(4.1) For the purposes of subsection 7(2) of the Act, a vehicle that has been sold at the retail level in the United States and that has not been certified by the manufacturer as conforming to subsection 114(4) of Schedule IV to these Regulations may be imported into Canada despite not being certified to conform to subsection 114(4) if
(a) the vehicle was fitted at the time of manufacture with an electronic immobilization system; or
(b) unless the manufacturer has indicated in writing that the vehicle cannot be fitted with an immobilization system, the person importing the vehicle states in their declaration that the vehicle
(i) will be fitted with an immobilization system that conforms to National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98, entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems: Electronic Immobilization (May 1998), published by the Underwriters' Laboratories of Canada, before it is presented for registration under the laws of a province, and
(ii) will be taken, within 45 days after its importation, to an inspection station authorized by the registrar of imported vehicles to carry out an inspection function to determine that the vehicle has been made to conform to the standard.
COMING INTO FORCE
2. These Regulations come into force on the day on which they are registered.
[48-1-o]
Footnote 1
SOR/2005-45
Footnote 2
May 1998, published by the Underwriters' Laboratories of Canada (ULC)
Footnote 3
Dated October 14, 2002
Footnote 4
Dated March 6, 2006
Footnote 5
The Motor Vehicle Theft Problem: An Exploration and Development of Future Options, Michael Parkes, October 15, 1999; Fatalities and Injuries as a Result of Stolen Motor Vehicles (1999-2001), prepared for Project 6116 by Matthew J. Miceli, December 2002
Footnote 6
The Auto Theft Industry — The Cost to Canadians, prepared for the Insurance Bureau of Canada by Standard & Poor's DRI, Toronto, Ontario, April 2000
Footnote 7
Title 49, Part 571, of the Code of Federal Regulations, Docket No. NHTSA- 2005-22093, published on April 7, 2006
Footnote 8
Registrar of Imported Vehicles, November 19, 2007
Footnote 9
The CVMA represents DaimlerChrysler Canada Inc.; Ford Motor Company of Canada, Limited; General Motors of Canada Limited; and International Truck and Engine Corporation Canada
Footnote 10
The AIAMC represents the following automotive manufacturers and importers as voting members: BMW Canada Inc.; Honda Canada Inc.; Hyundai Auto Canada; Kia Canada Inc.; Mazda Canada Inc.; Mercedes-Benz Canada Inc.; Mitsubishi Motor Sales of Canada, Inc.; Nissan Canada Inc.; Porsche Cars Canada Ltd.; Subaru Canada Inc.; Suzuki Canada, Inc.; Toyota Canada Inc.; and Volkswagen Canada Inc.
Footnote a
S.C. 1993, c. 16
Footnote 11
C.R.C., c. 1038

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Wow, that's a lot of legalese! On first read, it looks like they are telling the manufacturers that they are willing to accept current factory-installed immobilizers as meeting the spec for importation purposes. Now we just have to wait to see how the manufacturers react and how fast.
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