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Old 02-27-2007, 09:04 AM   #1
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Should we be worried now ? What's really going on ?




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Old 02-27-2007, 09:28 AM   #2
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From Dundas & Neyagawa to the 403 there are 5 gas stations and not one had gas this morning.... I'm glad I have been keeping my tank topped up...

This is a total conspiracy, how can one fire at one supplier's refinery cause all this...

but then again...no gassie, no go to workie.... damn, I have a home office.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:35 AM   #3
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What a scam. There is NO gas shortage. There are many refineries that are not even operating, they just keep them closed to help keep the common misconception alive that the earth only has a limited supply of oil that is running out.

Another misconception is that oil is all fossil fuel. Another wrong theory. Oil is actually a naturally occuring and SELF RENEWING resource. There is also a GINORMOUS oil source recently found 200 miles off the eastern coast of Canada which has TONS of oil.

These oil companies want the world to think oil is running scare, that one lil' fire and a rail strike can affect ALL these gas stations. So why is the stations that are NOT affected have the same high prices??
Collusion! They got us by the balls and they know it. (not YOU Lauri).

Sorry, I get really pissed about this. If you listen to "Coast to Coast" with George Noory on Mojo at nights, your eyes will open up.

By the way....35 more days.....
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:39 AM   #4
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Brutal... Im going away on Sat and even though I dont believe theres really a shortage...all the "Out of Gas" signs all around my area forced me into a line up so I can make sure I have gas to get to the airport. I understand the game of high prices, they've been sticking that one to us for years....but cmon, a shortage??
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:30 PM   #5
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I was on the road this morning at 6:15 to meet a client downtown Toronto because it was the only time he had.

So find out as I get in the car I am running low on gas so I stopped to get some.

Had to wait 4 cars deep at 6:15 in Milton and pay almost $60 for my tank that on a bad day doesn't even come close to that.

Couldn't believe it. Hopefully all this calms down before the driving season or we may not have that premium fuel that we all need. Seen a BMW drive away this morning cause of no premium.
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:47 PM   #6
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Imperial Oil has no less than 3 out of 4 refineries down and Petro Canada is down for maintenance, they were being supplied by IMO until the Nanticoke fire.

In case you hadn't noticed refineries have been shutting down for the last 30 years without replacement.

If you ask the companies about refining capacity they will tell you that we are over supplied in Canada.

There have been several mergers to reduce supply and of coarse competition, Remember how many companies Petro Canada eat up and Imperial Oil took out Texaco, and what ever happened to Gulf Oil.

Maintenance at these plants is a joke, the guy that spends the least money on R&M gets the bonus.

You cant blame the tiger for biting you when you are the care taker. Communist Red Canada has made competition virtually impossible with environmental requirements, pumping billions of barrels of oil out of the ground is easier than trying to put one pint back. Every year the CRC asks for higher fuel standards, and the refiners mildly complain about shutting down the old plants and up grading the remaining and of coarse removing capacity. So with limited storage facilities and reduced capacity, the "THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN A MILLION YEARS" happens to the utter amazement of the intelligentsia.

This shortage is a result of several independent minor misadventures among the refiners. Believe it or not the oil companies are managing an emergency supply scenario, hourly, and the lack of announcements was to avoid hoarding which could exacerbate the problem.

And the Good News, rush hour traffic was much better today.
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:08 PM   #7
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My local ESSO ran out of regular and are selling premium at the price of regular ( roughly 90 cents ) This whole thing is a damn joke.
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:50 PM   #8
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No gasso no worko, no worko, no denero for gasso, they know that, this will pass....o
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:21 PM   #9
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I'm glad that I don't have to commute - should be able to pick up a new SUV for a pretty good price if this continues.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:42 AM   #10
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I really believe that there is a gas shortage. I also believe that the refineries will ramp up production in the next couple of weeks to lower the prices for us to appologize for the inconvenience.
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:51 PM   #11
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I'm glad that I don't have to commute - should be able to pick up a new SUV for a pretty good price if this continues.
If this continues.....YOu can have my SUV for 10 bucks... but it comes with a full tank of gas which will cost you 50k
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Old 02-28-2007, 07:29 PM   #12
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If this continues.....YOu can have my SUV for 10 bucks... but it comes with a full tank of gas which will cost you 50k
Do you have spinners on the beast?
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Old 02-28-2007, 07:47 PM   #13
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I'm going to get into the gasoline business. Hey, Mark, I'll need to open with a Tim's or Mark's Donut place too. Can you hook me up?

Now I hear, 6 weeks before we are back to normal.

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Old 03-01-2007, 01:18 PM   #14
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Woohoo...Oakville - Between Dundas & Neyagawa and the 403 - all stations had gas this morning.....2 Essos, Sunoco & Petro Canada...all at 99.9

...filled up and will do so again at the end of the day...
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:31 PM   #15
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I saw a lot more stations in Mississauga with gas this morning compared to yesterday too.

FWIW, if any of you check out torontogasprices.com, I'm Patman22 on there. I post a ton of gas prices on that site (I post them immediately, wherever I go, from my Blackberry)
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:40 PM   #16
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There is enough oil(gas) right now with the major companies to fuel our cars for 15 years.

This is total bull****. I am not suprised however.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:16 PM   #17
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Gas shortage my ass. There have been many companies in the past 10 years who have developed technology for combustable fuel made from renewalable resources...corn, water, etc and when their technology gets some momentum under it, its get bought out by Shell, Esso, etc under the guise that they want to look for new alternatives...ya, right ...the technology gets shelved and they protect their beloved oil industry.

They truly operate in an Industry Monopoly..hell, they're worst than banks
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:30 PM   #18
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I saw a lot more stations in Mississauga with gas this morning compared to yesterday too.

FWIW, if any of you check out torontogasprices.com, I'm Patman22 on there. I post a ton of gas prices on that site (I post them immediately, wherever I go, from my Blackberry)
Too cool, I've seen Patman22 lots of times as I frequent that site. Good job
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