ERay or Z06?
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No real debate for me. 100% Z06.
The wait time was going to be longer for the eRay at MSRP and for me, it’s all about the engine in the Z06. If they had released the eRay first and demand had slowed as production caught up with the eRay (like the Z06) before the Z06 was revealed, I’d still want the Z06 more. I have nothing against electric or hybrid electric cars and sincerely the all wheel drive is a handy feature. I
I still think the electric / hybrid electric lifecycle and reliability is still in its infancy…especially for GM. I say this as someone preparing to wade into ownership of a first ever GM produced flat plane crank engine, so there’s that.
With the rumored ZR1 to be a twin-turbo version of the Z06’s LT6, the allure of one of the last big naturally aspirated V8 engines is too great. In the long run, I expect the C9 to shift completely to a hybrid electric and all electric setup. Could you imagine if the C9 ONLY offered a V6 hybrid electric? That would be a sad day.
The wait time was going to be longer for the eRay at MSRP and for me, it’s all about the engine in the Z06. If they had released the eRay first and demand had slowed as production caught up with the eRay (like the Z06) before the Z06 was revealed, I’d still want the Z06 more. I have nothing against electric or hybrid electric cars and sincerely the all wheel drive is a handy feature. I
I still think the electric / hybrid electric lifecycle and reliability is still in its infancy…especially for GM. I say this as someone preparing to wade into ownership of a first ever GM produced flat plane crank engine, so there’s that.
With the rumored ZR1 to be a twin-turbo version of the Z06’s LT6, the allure of one of the last big naturally aspirated V8 engines is too great. In the long run, I expect the C9 to shift completely to a hybrid electric and all electric setup. Could you imagine if the C9 ONLY offered a V6 hybrid electric? That would be a sad day.
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Non of the above.
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I didn't watch the whole video cause it's long as hell but he made some valid points.
I think there are some people who got an ERAY because they couldn't wait for a z06. And since it has the widebody and similar power, and AWD, then that same group hypes it up to be a monster. And it is.
But just like most teslas, and i have one so i know, it seems that power drops off once it hits like 115 or so. That's why trap speeds are down vs the z06. And that's why in the U-drag comparison the ending mph was like 10mph difference. That's pretty big.
The ERAY is a car if you want to modify since the aftermarket is strong and those who need to daily it. It's just a faster SR.
z06 is just different. Despite what people think of it and how it doesn't sound good anywhere but redline, it's slow. 60-130 times are slow etc. It's not meant for that like the C7Z and C6Z.
That's why i can't wait for the ZR1 to be revealed so people can leave the z06 alone lol. Let us enjoy our NA goodness in peace.
I think there are some people who got an ERAY because they couldn't wait for a z06. And since it has the widebody and similar power, and AWD, then that same group hypes it up to be a monster. And it is.
But just like most teslas, and i have one so i know, it seems that power drops off once it hits like 115 or so. That's why trap speeds are down vs the z06. And that's why in the U-drag comparison the ending mph was like 10mph difference. That's pretty big.
The ERAY is a car if you want to modify since the aftermarket is strong and those who need to daily it. It's just a faster SR.
z06 is just different. Despite what people think of it and how it doesn't sound good anywhere but redline, it's slow. 60-130 times are slow etc. It's not meant for that like the C7Z and C6Z.
That's why i can't wait for the ZR1 to be revealed so people can leave the z06 alone lol. Let us enjoy our NA goodness in peace.
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No real debate for me. 100% Z06.
The wait time was going to be longer for the eRay at MSRP and for me, it’s all about the engine in the Z06. If they had released the eRay first and demand had slowed as production caught up with the eRay (like the Z06) before the Z06 was revealed, I’d still want the Z06 more. I have nothing against electric or hybrid electric cars and sincerely the all wheel drive is a handy feature. I
I still think the electric / hybrid electric lifecycle and reliability is still in its infancy…especially for GM. I say this as someone preparing to wade into ownership of a first ever GM produced flat plane crank engine, so there’s that.
With the rumored ZR1 to be a twin-turbo version of the Z06’s LT6, the allure of one of the last big naturally aspirated V8 engines is too great. In the long run, I expect the C9 to shift completely to a hybrid electric and all electric setup. Could you imagine if the C9 ONLY offered a V6 hybrid electric? That would be a sad day.
The wait time was going to be longer for the eRay at MSRP and for me, it’s all about the engine in the Z06. If they had released the eRay first and demand had slowed as production caught up with the eRay (like the Z06) before the Z06 was revealed, I’d still want the Z06 more. I have nothing against electric or hybrid electric cars and sincerely the all wheel drive is a handy feature. I
I still think the electric / hybrid electric lifecycle and reliability is still in its infancy…especially for GM. I say this as someone preparing to wade into ownership of a first ever GM produced flat plane crank engine, so there’s that.
With the rumored ZR1 to be a twin-turbo version of the Z06’s LT6, the allure of one of the last big naturally aspirated V8 engines is too great. In the long run, I expect the C9 to shift completely to a hybrid electric and all electric setup. Could you imagine if the C9 ONLY offered a V6 hybrid electric? That would be a sad day.
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Stating the obvious but the Eray will have the straight-line potential to make this a popular platform to mod and more so once they actually get out there in significant numbers. If you like to mod I don't see the Z06 being too exciting at the moment but hopefully the ECU will get cracked and some crazy tuners with some tax burden to soften will see what adding forced induction does to the LT6. I know Emilia did the TT Z06 but clearly it wasn't sorted etc. Both have their unique experience but for me, the Z06 gets my money. Who knows how reliable the LT6 will be, who knows how sustainable the electric system in the Eray will be. Time will tell.
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depends what you want.
E-ray is an amazing, 4wd 4 season very comfortable very fast (stoplight to stoplight) GT car.
Z06 is a track weapon.
Which do you want?
E-ray is an amazing, 4wd 4 season very comfortable very fast (stoplight to stoplight) GT car.
Z06 is a track weapon.
Which do you want?
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Depends on what you plan to do with the car. The Z06 is a purpose built track car that you can drive on the street. The Eray is a street car that you can take to the track. At least that's the way I look at them. I have a 23' Stingray and have been thinking about this very question, Z06 or Eray? As a street only driver that uses the Corvette as a weekend canyon carver the rational choice to me is the Eray. Has the widebody, I personally prefer the Eray wheels (though you can fix wheels easily with aftermarket), very close in performance and having driven a Z06 my assumption is it will be a smoother street car like my Stingray. The irrational side of me wants the Z06 because of that motor. Historically the Z06 has had a regular Corvette motor with a blower on it. This one is different, unique, and because of that it's very very desirable. In my short drive in my friends Z06 that was the big takeaway, the motor, and even more specifically the visceral experience of the sound it makes. Can't really take advantage of what the Z06 (or the Eray) brings to the street unless you are driving crazy illegally fast. If I was tracking I'd get the Z06. The bottom line is there is no bad choice. Either way you're getting an amazing machine. Good luck.
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I didn't watch the whole video cause it's long as hell but he made some valid points.
I think there are some people who got an ERAY because they couldn't wait for a z06. And since it has the widebody and similar power, and AWD, then that same group hypes it up to be a monster. And it is.
But just like most teslas, and i have one so i know, it seems that power drops off once it hits like 115 or so. That's why trap speeds are down vs the z06. And that's why in the U-drag comparison the ending mph was like 10mph difference. That's pretty big.
The ERAY is a car if you want to modify since the aftermarket is strong and those who need to daily it. It's just a faster SR.
z06 is just different. Despite what people think of it and how it doesn't sound good anywhere but redline, it's slow. 60-130 times are slow etc. It's not meant for that like the C7Z and C6Z.
That's why i can't wait for the ZR1 to be revealed so people can leave the z06 alone lol. Let us enjoy our NA goodness in peace.
I think there are some people who got an ERAY because they couldn't wait for a z06. And since it has the widebody and similar power, and AWD, then that same group hypes it up to be a monster. And it is.
But just like most teslas, and i have one so i know, it seems that power drops off once it hits like 115 or so. That's why trap speeds are down vs the z06. And that's why in the U-drag comparison the ending mph was like 10mph difference. That's pretty big.
The ERAY is a car if you want to modify since the aftermarket is strong and those who need to daily it. It's just a faster SR.
z06 is just different. Despite what people think of it and how it doesn't sound good anywhere but redline, it's slow. 60-130 times are slow etc. It's not meant for that like the C7Z and C6Z.
That's why i can't wait for the ZR1 to be revealed so people can leave the z06 alone lol. Let us enjoy our NA goodness in peace.
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The E-Ray was the variant I was most interested in.. well other than that name. But when it basically turned out to be a wide body Stingray with the electric AWD I was just not very interested.
The Z06 is more in line with the experience I wanted. I’d still love the electric AWD, but I just put more value on the all around insanity of the Z06. I can’t even pretend to care about 0.1sec difference in 0-60 or quarter mile (the onboard 0-60 timer is proven to be inaccurate so I don’t care what it says at this point lol). It’s a weekend toy, so I really like how insane the Z06 is. I want driving my toy to be an event.
Both seem to be great cars. Capability wise for 90% or more of owners they are nearly identical. Just pick the one that fits what you want and enjoy it. I don’t get why things are so tribal with these cars.
The Z06 is more in line with the experience I wanted. I’d still love the electric AWD, but I just put more value on the all around insanity of the Z06. I can’t even pretend to care about 0.1sec difference in 0-60 or quarter mile (the onboard 0-60 timer is proven to be inaccurate so I don’t care what it says at this point lol). It’s a weekend toy, so I really like how insane the Z06 is. I want driving my toy to be an event.
Both seem to be great cars. Capability wise for 90% or more of owners they are nearly identical. Just pick the one that fits what you want and enjoy it. I don’t get why things are so tribal with these cars.
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My C7Z has intake, xpipe and PTB and it definitely appears faster than my C8Z but it might be the torque that's creating that illusion. the C8Z isn't slow by any means whatsoever though but on similar roads, i felt my C7Z can get up to a good number fairly easier and quicker than my C8Z.
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From a logical perspective, the Eray is an absolute win. AWD for year-round daily-driver capability while also providing better traction for launches, softer suspension for better ride, CCBs for no dust, and it can be modded for big power. The Eray is a perfect daily driver, GT and mod-monster in a wide-body package for the looks. But I want a car that is an event every time I drive it and isn't logical, so for me, the Z06 is the choice. I don't care if an Eray launches better or can be modded to be stupid fast, when I'm cruising a backroad at 4000rpm listening to the LT6 and do a blast to 8000+rpm, the sound & experience of the Z06 makes up for everything else.
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I don't think it is. At least i can't tell if it is.
My C7Z has intake, xpipe and PTB and it definitely appears faster than my C8Z but it might be the torque that's creating that illusion. the C8Z isn't slow by any means whatsoever though but on similar roads, i felt my C7Z can get up to a good number fairly easier and quicker than my C8Z.
My C7Z has intake, xpipe and PTB and it definitely appears faster than my C8Z but it might be the torque that's creating that illusion. the C8Z isn't slow by any means whatsoever though but on similar roads, i felt my C7Z can get up to a good number fairly easier and quicker than my C8Z.
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Stock for stock - the C8 Z06 is quicker than the C7 in almost any race, because it can put the power down. You state your C7 is modified and that makes sense. They respond very well to mods which is the advantage of a truck motor with a big super charger on it. It is amazing what GM accomplished with the pushrod V8.
I feel like when i go WOT in the C8Z it screams so the whole world can hear then i look down and it's only at 128mph lol.
I still love the car to death though. I wanted this NA goodness.
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No real debate for me. 100% Z06.
The wait time was going to be longer for the eRay at MSRP and for me, it’s all about the engine in the Z06. If they had released the eRay first and demand had slowed as production caught up with the eRay (like the Z06) before the Z06 was revealed, I’d still want the Z06 more. I have nothing against electric or hybrid electric cars and sincerely the all wheel drive is a handy feature. I
I still think the electric / hybrid electric lifecycle and reliability is still in its infancy…especially for GM. I say this as someone preparing to wade into ownership of a first ever GM produced flat plane crank engine, so there’s that.
With the rumored ZR1 to be a twin-turbo version of the Z06’s LT6, the allure of one of the last big naturally aspirated V8 engines is too great. In the long run, I expect the C9 to shift completely to a hybrid electric and all electric setup. Could you imagine if the C9 ONLY offered a V6 hybrid electric? That would be a sad day.
The wait time was going to be longer for the eRay at MSRP and for me, it’s all about the engine in the Z06. If they had released the eRay first and demand had slowed as production caught up with the eRay (like the Z06) before the Z06 was revealed, I’d still want the Z06 more. I have nothing against electric or hybrid electric cars and sincerely the all wheel drive is a handy feature. I
I still think the electric / hybrid electric lifecycle and reliability is still in its infancy…especially for GM. I say this as someone preparing to wade into ownership of a first ever GM produced flat plane crank engine, so there’s that.
With the rumored ZR1 to be a twin-turbo version of the Z06’s LT6, the allure of one of the last big naturally aspirated V8 engines is too great. In the long run, I expect the C9 to shift completely to a hybrid electric and all electric setup. Could you imagine if the C9 ONLY offered a V6 hybrid electric? That would be a sad day.
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Hmmmmmmm
Why not both?🤷♂️
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From a logical perspective, the Eray is an absolute win. AWD for year-round daily-driver capability while also providing better traction for launches, softer suspension for better ride, CCBs for no dust, and it can be modded for big power. The Eray is a perfect daily driver, GT and mod-monster in a wide-body package for the looks. But I want a car that is an event every time I drive it and isn't logical, so for me, the Z06 is the choice. I don't care if an Eray launches better or can be modded to be stupid fast, when I'm cruising a backroad at 4000rpm listening to the LT6 and do a blast to 8000+rpm, the sound & experience of the Z06 makes up for everything else.
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That is the correct answer if you can afford two.
If I didn't have my AWD Porsche 911 Turbo S I would have the C8Z and the E-ray.
If I can only choose one it is the C8Z for the engine and its great sounds.
If I did not need AWD, I would take a slower GT3 over my Turbo S.
It took me to reach age 60 to understand that driving experience blows away having a slightly faster car.
Mid 10s vs 11.0 or 0-60 in 2.5 vs 3.0 is not much of a difference, but the sound of an incredible engine, priceless.
If I didn't have my AWD Porsche 911 Turbo S I would have the C8Z and the E-ray.
If I can only choose one it is the C8Z for the engine and its great sounds.
If I did not need AWD, I would take a slower GT3 over my Turbo S.
It took me to reach age 60 to understand that driving experience blows away having a slightly faster car.
Mid 10s vs 11.0 or 0-60 in 2.5 vs 3.0 is not much of a difference, but the sound of an incredible engine, priceless.
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This. Thankfully I realized it about a decade earlier. It could be the fastest car in the world, but if it's a soulless appliance, not many people are going to enjoy driving it.