Z0HS1CK

Because if you have the means to acquire both and/or want 2 C8 variants, the ones to get are the z06 and the zr1.

Not an ERAY lol

Bluehinder

ERay will never enjoy the popularity of the Z06.

3LZR21U

It's tribal because assclowns like the douchecanoes in the video the OP posted--are legion. Personally I think the ER and Z differentiate themselves rather well--and I feel both have a compelling argument in their respective own right.

That said, the douchecanoes seem to need to fellate/reassure themselves that they made a good purchase--by ripping into the ER. The Z is a great value for what it is--but trying to undescore that by trying to portray the ER as a tepid, lackluster value for the money is preposterous prima facie. Argue that the LT6 is the biggest FPC engine offered on a production car. Argue that the C8Z is a much better value than the 458. Argue that for someone who wants driving to be "an event" every time they start up the car--the C8Z is fantastic.

Arguing that the ER isn't worth the +35k and the Z is worth the +43k--is moronic. I can ballpark what a crate LT2 would cost--and I know what the Z premium costs over the SR. Even assuming that the LT2 delete would only pay for the cost of a widebody upgrade (LT2 is actually more expensive than this)--you're still left with a 43k cost for upgrading to the LT6.

Meanwhile the ER costs 8k less MSRP, and contains an $8500 upgrade--standard--that the Z does not. Meaning that I can literally count where that 35k for the ER is going (Widebody, CCB's, Hybrid-drive). Purely from this vantage point, you have something to show for your money with the ER that you simply do not for the Z.

Is the Z worth it? Definitely, if its character appeals to what you want. Do not for a minute assume, pretend, or conjecture that the ER isn't worth it--in its own right. Those who do portray themselves as uneducated troglodytes.

3LZR21U

Assuming the Zora never exists, the correct answer is a ZR1 and an ER, and mashing the two together to make an AWD-hybrid ZR1.

3LZR21U

The 2nd gen Ford GT is making 660hp and 550tq. From a 3.5L TT V6 Ecoboost. The 2.3L I4 ecoboost is making nearly 400hp in some applications.

I have zero qualms about fewer cylinder, lower displacement, forced induction engines with hybrid boosters--as the way forward for future Corvettes. GM's difficulty is the residual inertia of intractable old-hat owners; much the same as Harley-Davidson can't build newer, better engines in their bikes--because they aren't "HD". Doesn't matter that Indian or anyone else will sell you a cheaper bike that makes more power and probably looks better.

It's the same reason why the F/R purists are still up in arms. It's the same reason why the aesthetic purists think that the C8 doesn't have the right proportions for a Corvette. There's nothing new here. The XJ220 was decried for "only" having a TT V6 engine--despite the production car having a higher power output than the prototype's V12 would have had--that was nearly 35 years ago. The Prowler was decried for "only" having a V6 engine--despite the V6 making more power than any V8 Chrysler had--that was nearly 30 years ago.

I happen to believe that the C8 isn't so much "lore unto itself" as it is an American sports car striving to be better than (or at least equal to) anything the Europeans are putting out--at a fraction of the cost. Whatever form that takes--is fine with me; v8 or not. Pure EV is the only place I'll draw the line. Corvette pulls from wherever and whatever. C3 was a production Pontiac Banshee. And you can go through 8 generations and pull from all over the place where GM pulled inspiration after being EXTREMELY late to the party on automotive developments/changes/technology (eg. C5's pop-up headlights).

I just want a fast car that handles well and doesn't have the limitations of an EV.

Bluehinder

Eray is marketed as Z06 for Gen-Z.

OmarH

None of the above lol

PuffC8

Peitz performance is developing a twin turbo kit and other performance mods for Z06. They posted a video a few months back of their Z06 and it is twin turbo’d

Z0HS1CK

If the ultimate variant is an AWD hybrid TT, whatever it'll be called ZR1, ZORA, GOO GOO GAGA, that's the one to get. There is absolutely no need for a dinosaur ER at that point since the LT2, by rumor, is going out the door to be replaced with the LT3. Grandsport 2017 hinted it and if i believe anyone on this forum it's that dude.

3LZR21U

Sure.

Point being that if the Zora never materializes, might as well get an ER and merge it with a ZR1. Then you can sell the car you don't want as the "GS" that everyone and their brother insists they want.

vegasredz062

where did you see that? I cant find anything on TT z06 ( besides Emilia )

TxJester

ok, so get the whole set?

PuffC8

They posted it on their Instagram a few months back. Start up and revs. Then I spoke with someone that works there and they said they’re working on a few different packages for Z06 along with tuning. It’s supposed to release soon, they recently posted about doing more R&D on it

PuffC8

And here’s video of it

AustinVetter

To me the Eray is not something I would even think twice about. It's a very heavy Stingray with electric motors. The Z is so much more than that. Like others have said, its an event when you drive it. It's all about the motor.

Z0HS1CK

I said it numerous times over a year ago that if the ZR1 is this monster TT car, i can't see them put out another variant, with the same offerings, just with AWD.

I even said there could be a ZR1, zora edition. With zora being limited to like 1000 units. And those who want the SF90 of the corvette world, or the 918 of the corvette world, would have to pay 200+ to buy one of those limited production ZORA units.

If there is a ZORA, to keep these variants spaced out properly, the ZR1 might not be what people expect in terms of power and the ZORA will be the ultimate variant.

The difference maker is if we'll get a ZORA or not. That's going to be decide how great the ZR1 will be IMO.

And no, i don't think an ER is the car to get to be honest. Because in the end you're trying to modify the car into something it'll never be.

Z0HS1CK

Having 2 C8's or 2 of the same generation is pointless to me in general. That's why i didn't even get a stingray and kept my C7Z and acquired the C8Z.

But if one must, then it's definitely the z06 for it's engine and then the ZR1 because it's TT. You'll have 2 killer C8's.

Bentl

Eray

3LZR21U

A stock ER is still a fantastic touring car that will spank the snot out of most things it crosses paths with. No need to modify it.

I'll disagree with your assessment of the Zora. ZR1 will be a NVH nightmare that is designed to flog tracks into submission. Taming that same powerplant into Bentley manners and adding AWD hybrid drive won't "just be another variant". It will be an entirely different character and demeanor altogether. ZR1 and Zora will share the same RWD heart--but their manifest character will be polar opposites of the performance spectrum.

3LZR21U

I love that the TT LT6 exists. I'm sure the details/specs on it are going to be in very thin air WRT cost/ performance gain. Best part about it may be that beautiful intake.

Again with the "heavy" myth. ER doesn't have to be the car for everyone. Maligning it for weight when hp/weight is still god-tier--is myopic at best. All AWD cars carry additional weight. And the ER manages to be several hundred lbs lighter than a Challenger Hellcat while putting down power to 2 extra wheels.

Show me an ER getting spanked by a Huracan Performante (3300 lbs curb weight) and I'll concede the point. Unfortunately, even though the Performante should--on paper--PWN an ER, I don't think it'll ever happen. AWD, 631hp/443tq @ 3300 lbs. That should be more than a match for a 500lbs heavier ER.

"All about the motor"? That's 100% a personal preference thing. Not everyone wants the inhabitants of Alpha Centauri woken every time they are driving a Corvette; nor does everyone want the denizens of Pakistan to fear tectonic plate movement because they decided to go for a Sunday drive. And I personally dislike feeling that my organs are about to get destroyed because of sine wave propagation that causes similar effects to a jet taking off in full burner or a top-fuel NHRA dragster at full throttle.

p.s.
Once I see people start transplanting LT6's into 2500 lbs cars--I'll believe them about "weight". Until then, it's just hot-air meant to besmirch that which is a more well-rounded package for less money.