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Old 04-13-2024, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
I said it'll be under 700hp. I got it right.

I said NA, i got it right.

I said not 85-89k, it'll be more. I got it right.

Not sure what's so hard to understand lol. Are you still mad the z06 wasn't the 700+TT beast for 85k? LOL

You guys are getting your TT beast in the ZR1 so just wait a bit. Still don't think it'll be 850hp.You can mark me down on that. And if i'm wrong, i'm still here to take the L.

But if you're wrong, i know it's poof, david copperfield and you're gone too
This guy never said any of this
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Old 04-14-2024, 07:07 AM
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Yeah i did. Maybe not everything in one thread but i did say it.

The first big one was the z06 being NA. I'm the NA goodness loyalist. I said if the car was under 650hp but NA i would still buy it. Then i threw out crazy numbers that if the car was 550 or even 525 i would still get it. Maybe that's why the other guy was confused with the 525hp number.

And because i predicted NA, there's no way it would be 700+. Because it could have very well been TT and under 700. Where i would be only 1 of 2 for that. So it being under 700 and NA, i got 2 for 2.

Then you, among many, have sworn it would be 85-89 because someone even broke it down in parts and prices if it was TT and how it would only add up to 85-89 and that a TT beast couldn't be more like 95. Come to find out we didn't even get TT and it broke 100k. So i was right about it not being 85-89k.

The ZR1 will be expensive. Just enjoy the coming TT beast already.
Old 04-14-2024, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
Will the ZR1 be the top dog at cars and coffees?

Maybe but only until a car like this one rolls in like it did last Saturday at our C&C

Chivan Supersport $3.6 million car


I'm certain Chevy could make an uglier supercar for half the money......
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Old 04-14-2024, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ZRacerLE
This guy never said any of this
Exactly. There isn't one single person on this forum to back him up either. His numbers are all over the place. And to place a guess that the car will be more than $85-89K, well no kidding it will be more than that. If I remember, I paid a little over $92K for my C7Z. So yea, of course it will be over that. And he was still off by $20K. I can't wait till the ZR1 numbers come out, he will be wrong again with a 775hp guess. He doesn't think twin turbos will make the car over 800hp, which is very laughable. Why only make the car 25hp more than the C7Z? I highly doubt GM would do that. They will for sure impress up with a beast over 800hp. Hell I heard a rumor, it could be quad turbo, like the Bugatti Veyron, but probably highly unlikely. Wouldn't that be something though..lol
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Old 04-14-2024, 08:11 AM
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Wait what?

Why make the car only 25hp more than the C7Z? Which car are you talking about? LOL. You mean over the C7ZR1?

Could be 40hp more, like 795

Even if the car came at 805 you wouldn't be right either because you're saying 850.

Looks like i'm not the only one throwing numbers out all over the place
Old 04-14-2024, 09:09 AM
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Guy gets 1 out of 3 right, and is bragging about some trifecta that never happened.
We would all be impressed if you nailed the msrp, hp, etc. You didnt, no one did. You gave general assumptions and responses with ranges. And you will be wrong about it being not over 800hp.
Ill be right about that though..as will most of this forum.
Old 04-14-2024, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
Wait what?

Why make the car only 25hp more than the C7Z? Which car are you talking about? LOL. You mean over the C7ZR1?

Could be 40hp more, like 795

Even if the car came at 805 you wouldn't be right either because you're saying 850.

Looks like i'm not the only one throwing numbers out all over the place
Proof you're still all over the place.. 900HP.. LMAO!

Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
I'm starting to think the ZORA will be a limited production model (like 1000 units etc) while the ZR1 remains the top running variant.

I don't think GM will be able to keep up with this demand if they're going to sell a ZR1 and a ZORA in "normal" production cycles. Plus the huge demand of the z06 and the ERAY? lol They can barely do it now with only the SR and z06.

I think the ZR1 will be closer to 900hp and the ZORA, being a limited production model will be 1000+. I'm guess 1075hp with AWD, TT, and electric assist.
Old 04-14-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by C2Red64
Exactly. There isn't one single person on this forum to back him up either. His numbers are all over the place. And to place a guess that the car will be more than $85-89K, well no kidding it will be more than that. If I remember, I paid a little over $92K for my C7Z. So yea, of course it will be over that. And he was still off by $20K. I can't wait till the ZR1 numbers come out, he will be wrong again with a 775hp guess. He doesn't think twin turbos will make the car over 800hp, which is very laughable. Why only make the car 25hp more than the C7Z? I highly doubt GM would do that. They will for sure impress up with a beast over 800hp. Hell I heard a rumor, it could be quad turbo, like the Bugatti Veyron, but probably highly unlikely. Wouldn't that be something though..lol
Well, he does have a few accounts on here that he backs himself up with. He's too afraid to use them right now as it would be too obvious.

But yeah, he never said any of that stuff.
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Old 04-14-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by C2Red64
Proof you're still all over the place.. 900HP.. LMAO!

Par for the course… he did the same thing with the Z06… moving goalposts all around and then claiming victory like any of that even matters
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Old 04-14-2024, 11:51 AM
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Let's return to the thread about the car.

The output of high performance engines is measured against other engines of its type, not against a "raw" number. The 1990 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the 2019 ZR1 all set new posts for industry.

I cannot see an 800 horsepower car, or even 850 being anything more than a field goal attempt after a long drive.
Old 04-14-2024, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
Are you sure displacement and redline are staying the same? As both of those dropping lower’s output.
You’re right, at the minimum I expect a lower redline… how much lower depends if they stick with FPC. And there was a leak from a long time ago that mentioned a smaller displacement (in the 4.4L range if I recall correctly), so that could be a possibility. We’ll see… but regardless I expect output to hit that magical 800HP mark regardless in a TT application.
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Old 04-14-2024, 12:42 PM
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That wasn't done in the ZR1 related threads though. That was a long time ago. So it doesn't count

I assume you're still mad that the z06 was NA and i had a trifecta so you're making sure i get nothing right with this one.

I'll admit though i think i may be wrong but again i don't mind taking the L on this one. How funny will it be though if i end up right, AGAIN???

Just promise me though if you're wrong, you'll take the L under that exact username and not one of the other 4 or 5 you have. Or maybe the mods permanently banned those so that's why you keep creating new ones LOL
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Originally Posted by international blue
Let's return to the thread about the car.

The output of high performance engines is measured against other engines of its type, not against a "raw" number. The 1990 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the 2019 ZR1 all set new posts for industry.

I cannot see an 800 horsepower car, or even 850 being anything more than a field goal attempt after a long drive.
Im hoping at least 900hp as the Hail Mary throw. Larger electric motors up front would mean less stress from the engine. 670hp NA could be 750 or more easily adding boost and even the 160HP motors from the ERay would get it over 900 at that point. I’m hoping it’s not the LT2 boosted since that would hinder it. A 5.5L crossplane would be interesting to see.
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"ZR1: LT7 engine–the twin-turbo version of the LT56 at about 800-hp. Rear drive only. Not track-focused as is the Z06. More of a GT car so it will be available in a pretty luxurious form."

Anybody agree with the last part of that?

Hasn't the ZR1 always been the most racecar like?

Thanks,
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Old 04-14-2024, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Buddhaman
Im hoping at least 900hp as the Hail Mary throw. Larger electric motors up front would mean less stress from the engine. 670hp NA could be 750 or more easily adding boost and even the 160HP motors from the ERay would get it over 900 at that point. I’m hoping it’s not the LT2 boosted since that would hinder it. A 5.5L crossplane would be interesting to see.
The problem I have with that is the weight of the batteries. Removing weight is expensive:-)
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Originally Posted by jvp
They've never limited production of any model of road-going Corvette other than what build capacity allows for. If the demand is there and they can build them, they will.
Not true. The 2019 ZR1 was a limited production car. They only made about three thousand of them. It is hard to believe there was some type of "build capacity" limitation for that engine.
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Originally Posted by robob
"ZR1: LT7 engine–the twin-turbo version of the LT56 at about 800-hp. Rear drive only. Not track-focused as is the Z06. More of a GT car so it will be available in a pretty luxurious form."

Anybody agree with the last part of that?

Hasn't the ZR1 always been the most racecar like?

Thanks,
Robert
For the C7 ZR1, it was supposed to be a higher output version of the Grand Sport, but the C7 Z06 was to be the most hard core of the Corvette variants. So, I am not surprised that the C8 ZR1 will not be as hard core as the C8 Z06. That being said, the Z06 is supposed to be very liveable and not a penalty-box.

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Old 04-14-2024, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by larryfdx
For the C7 ZR1, it was supposed to be a higher output version of the Grand Sport, but the C7 Z06 was to be the most hard core of the Corvette variants. So, I am not surprised that the C8 ZR1 will not be as hard core as the C8 Z06. That being said, the Z06 is supposed to be very liveable and not a penalty-box.
That, while that may be true, it doesn't make sense. One would think a brand's highest horsepower car would be it's most track worthy car. The track being the best use of the extra horsepower. I believe this is true for the euro exotics, is it not? Some of those brands of course make track only variants.

Hope y'all having fun,
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Originally Posted by TJC333
Not true. The 2019 ZR1 was a limited production car. They only made about three thousand of them. It is hard to believe there was some type of "build capacity" limitation for that engine.
They would have built more than three thousand had more than that been ordered. Assuming, of course, they could. Remember there were also three other models of C7 to build and sell. And when you got to the level of price the ZR1 was back in 2019, the buying populace thinned out quite a bit. There was no purposeful limitation of C7 ZR1. GM projected a certain number of units sold based on the price, and went with it.

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Originally Posted by jvp
They would have built more than three thousand had more than that been ordered. Assuming, of course, they could. Remember there were also three other models of C7 to build and sell. And when you got to the level of price the ZR1 was back in 2019, the buying populace thinned out quite a bit. There was no purposeful limitation of C7 ZR1. GM projected a certain number of units sold based on the price, and went with it.
We bought our 2019 ZR1 in December, 2019 with the 18% GM discount which was offered to everyone. There were about 40 - 50 cars left in the US which had been sitting for awhile.


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