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Old 11-25-2023, 08:19 PM
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After being told that the DCT leak that I posted about prior is now waiting on parts and viewing various YouTube DCT issues with C8s, both Sting Rays and Z06, I have a strong hunch that this DCT will need to be removed and replaced.
After watching a few DCT replacements on YouTube it is clear that this a major repair with the sub frame having to be removed. I can only guess that the techs doing this at the local dealer will be using my car as a learning experience and all that involves. To me this is very similar to buying a car that has a accident report.
As this was my 6th Vette and most likely my final, what was once a really fun time has become a heartache and headache.
GM has already reached out to me and I will calling them to see if they will waive the 6 month flipping rule regarding warranty.

If they do, I will be selling this car. Can't trust it.
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Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
You sure to seem have little empathy to someone that has owned 6 Vettes and waited 4 years and paid $160,000 for a car to break down with 80 miles on it. Puked tranny fluid over a expensive paver driveway and most likely will come back with some sort of damage to paint or interior.

GM has been using these DCT units for 5 years and is ZERO excuse for me to have to suffer the hassle and disappointment on this car.

Go pound sand.

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That sucks, I'm sorry to hear what you're going through, and I feel your pain. My situation with my C8Z was not quite as severe. I lost my left front shock assembly on day one, spewed hydraulic fluid all over my paver driveway. Worst part, it took GM 5 weeks to get the part to the dealership to fix the car. Now my car is going back to the dealership for a third time since the infotainment system craped out again. I'm done, too. I waited a long time and was really excited when I took delivery of mine, but it's been nothing but a headache since. I can't wait to get rid of it. I hope everything eventually works out for you.
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One would think this is not the kind of post that will facilitate your eventual sale. And then you will be faced with explaining the Carfax information. An auction will be your best route I suspect.
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I’m starting to get the idea that the new C8Z’s are nothing more than a POS on all levels.
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Does GM waive the six month flipping rule if you sell it back to the dealer?

Is this six month flipping thing actually enforceable in court? Or is this a psychological deterrent? Isn't the warranty part of the vehicle sale?
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Does GM waive the six month flipping rule if you sell it back to the dealer?

Is this six month flipping thing actually enforceable in court? Or is this a psychological deterrent? Isn't the warranty part of the vehicle sale?
There is zero legal requirement for a limited warranty to transfer beyond the original purchaser.
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Originally Posted by Bluehinder
Does GM waive the six month flipping rule if you sell it back to the dealer?

Is this six month flipping thing actually enforceable in court? Or is this a psychological deterrent? Isn't the warranty part of the vehicle sale?
Pretty sure it's no ifs ands or buts about it.

Once you signed for the car, and register it, you're the 1st owner and can't sell or trade within the first 6 months or no more warranty for the 2nd owner. I guess you can find a buyer who might not care about that but good luck.

GM has it stated everywhere about the warranty. You think GM is going to let someone fight them in court? A multi-billion dollar company?

The issue with people trying to fight big companies like that in court, or trying to sue is that they WILL fight back, even if it costs them more money than to shut up and give in because the more cases they lose, the more chances of others doing the same thing of fighting them and suing etc. They don't want a losing record. They will fight you back in court and win.
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30 days. Not sure where you live but if its anywhere where the weather is changing just hang tight and wait for the repair.

If it's more than 30 days most likely qualifies for lemon law.

As for the C8Z being a pos well - Welles a solid 7 or 8k on the road now and if I made a poll here I think it would end in 95% that its not. So don't let your emotions run Wild. Never make a permanent decision on temporary emotions.

This is my 4th corvette. 3rd Z06 2 prior were C7s all from new. This is the most amazing car best build quality and truly exotic in every way except the name. I'm over 2k miles in almost 5mos.
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Man that sucks and I absolutely do not blame you for how you feel. Unfortunately it sounds like the mental damage is done so no matter if GM fixes it perfectly, in the back of your mind you don't trust the car. Now, as far as a general comment from other people who post that the C8 Z is a POS, I think it's ridiculous to make a sweeping generalization based on the posts in this forum. Unfortunately in this day and age folks make decisions based on perception and not facts. I don't know the exact number of C8 Z06s that are having major issues. A reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of cars work perfectly fine and people generally don't post stuff if their car isn't broken. However, because I don't know the facts I won't make a statement one way or the other about how well these cars are built. I've owned 5 Chevys (3 Camaros and 2 Corvettes), a C6 ZR1 and now a C8 Stingray. Every single one of the cars was problem free for the entire time I owned them (knock on wood, I've had my C8 for 2 months and 2200 miles) so of course I have a different mindset than Crossofiron, who I feel terrible for. My hope is that Chevy does the right thing for this owner, fixes the car and it turns into a trouble free experience. A buddy of mine has a C8 Z06 purchased about the same time as me, slightly less miles, but so far absolutely perfect. Sincerely, best of luck to Crossofiron, I truly hope it works out for you one way or another.
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Originally Posted by 19/C7Z
30 days. Not sure where you live but if its anywhere where the weather is changing just hang tight and wait for the repair.

If it's more than 30 days most likely qualifies for lemon law.

As for the C8Z being a pos well - Welles a solid 7 or 8k on the road now and if I made a poll here I think it would end in 95% that its not. So don't let your emotions run Wild. Never make a permanent decision on temporary emotions.

This is my 4th corvette. 3rd Z06 2 prior were C7s all from new. This is the most amazing car best build quality and truly exotic in every way except the name. I'm over 2k miles in almost 5mos.
I don’t think the C8z’s are nothing but a POS, I happen to own a 2023 ZO7 and haven’t had any issues with it so far it’s only that looking through the forum I see many many post about how terrible of a machine they are. I was be facetious.
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Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
That's not fair though man.

Put yourself in their shoes. You just waited 3 or so years for this car and you drive it 80 miles and the DCT takes a dump.

It's the thought of WHERE you're going to get stranded, how will you get the car to the dealer if let's say you can't get the car in neutral, finding a competent tow truck driver, then dealing with the process of getting the car fixed. It's not about paying for it or not, we all know these cars have warranties. It's about waiting. So imagine waiting 3 years for your dream car. Then you drive it 80 miles, then you can't because it broke and now you're going to wait what? 1? 2? 3 months until it's fixed?

It's easy to tell others to stop complaining until it's you that ends up in their shoes.

I just crossed 900 miles today. Car is solid and shows zero signs of an issue. Although i still smell that weird smell since day 1, but it's no where near as strong but that's starting to concern me since it's been almost 2 months since taking delivery of the car.

This is the first car i am truly scared of. Not anything related to how it drives but how it's going to behave on any given day i want to drive it. I never had that feeling every with my previous corvettes. Hell my C7Z is 7 years old, on the same OEM battery and i start it up and not worry about it not starting or throwing any warning light when it does start.
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
You sure to seem have little empathy to someone that has owned 6 Vettes and waited 4 years and paid $160,000 for a car to break down with 80 miles on it. Puked tranny fluid over a expensive paver driveway and most likely will come back with some sort of damage to paint or interior.

GM has been using these DCT units for 5 years and is ZERO excuse for me to have to suffer the hassle and disappointment on this car.

Go pound sand.

If you don't like the thread, don't read it.
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I can see both sides of this. Thats why I tend to stay out of the threads where some is obviously super frustrated and just needs/wants to vent. I may not agree with what they are saying, but I understand where they are coming from. I've been there and sometimes just griping for a bit makes me feel better haha

My previous toy car needed some pretty major engine surgery after I only had it for about 4 months. Lots of stress there. Plenty of peoples cars were trashed with botched repairs (and of course dealer techs would say "they are all like that" even though it was BS)... and as expected those are the ones you hear about the most. Mine ended up fine, trouble free car for the 5 years I had it.

I know its difficult.. but its best to try to not obsess over this sort of thing while the process is still going on. Its not uncommon for a simple repair to need some extra parts to replace some "one time use" things that have to get undone during the repair. I'd just try to stay distracted and wait until the car is done and see how it turns out. A couple other people have posted with some DCT issues on their brand new Z06's... once the simple repair was done the car was good to go. It's not all doom and gloom out there, thats just what people tend to post when they are at peak frustration with a situation.

There was at least one person who was full speed ahead with lemon law prep and a lawyer and all that since their DCT repair was taking a long time (no parts available)... but they never posted about it again on here that I saw. Last I ever saw that person was them posting on facebook a month or two later talking about aftermarket wheels or something. Their car must have turned out ok if they were out there looking to buy new wheels for it.
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
Really dude? You have a lot of nerve even saying stuff like this. How rude..

But hey, maybe you should suggest to the Mods to combine all your posts with usernames.. Armchair Architect, GM Bureaucrat, and Le Mansz. I am positive there is 110% similarities..

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To the original poster .

i hear you and understand. Although not as nice as your car I’m sure I can assure you are not alone. My 2020 corvette Z51 had to have its transmission replaced and I felt the same way yet when the vehicle was returned everything was right with the world once again.

mine is a daily driver and it’ makes for an excellent ownership experience.
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
If you don't like the post, don't read it. Nobody forced you to click on the thread. And who made you the Corvette Forum Police dictating who and what can be posted & where? Quite pretentious aren't you.
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What I’d be very interested in is the percentage of 2022-2023 warranty claims for MAJOR repairs, GM most certainly has this information somewhere. If I were to believe all the negative post on here it means I’m driving a ticking mechanical time bomb even after driving my ZO7 over 1000 miles with no issues whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
Same here, 2023 Z06 with no issues so far and no reason to start a thread about it. OP, please go take your negativity elsewhere- there was literally ZERO reason to start a new thread when we already have numerous threads on DCT issues and thoughts on ownership.

I've also asked the mods if they can consolidate the LT6 problems sticky thread into a general "C8 Z06 Problems" thread similar to the one in the C8 General forum, where the handful of people can b1tch about their fully-covered-under-warranty DCT issues out of the 8,000 cars produced. Especially since we aren't hearing about LT6 failures anymore, makes sense to broaden that thread.
The view from your ivory tower must be nice
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In sympathy with the OP, my Z06 did not make 100 miles before the DCT needs to be replaced due to a serious oil leak. Details in another thread.
These things happen so I am not getting too wound up about it YET.
I'm giving GM some time to sort it out and fix the problem.
It's been over 2 weeks since receiving the DCT replacement diagnosis but no ETA for the new DCT from GM.
I picked it up at the NCM on 10/18 and 70 miles on the odometer. The clock is ticking.
GM is getting a lot of bad press when friends come to my shop to check out my new Z06 on a trailer waiting to go back to the deal for a DCT replacement.
Every one of my friends are or were potential buyers of GM products.
I don't need to bad mouth GM, the facts speak for themselves. People can draw their own conclusions.
My opinion, I love the car but GM needs to step up and make it right.
No amount of visual or mechanical design excellence can make up for poor quality.
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