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Old 10-28-2023, 05:35 PM
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That does not sound like my car. Unless the turbos and exhaust pointing at the ground change the tone at 2.5k to 3k rpm that is not the 5.5 fpc. It sounds deeper. Not muffled to me.
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Old 10-29-2023, 09:37 AM
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Sounding a little more like America!
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Originally Posted by 19/C7Z
That does not sound like my car. Unless the turbos and exhaust pointing at the ground change the tone at 2.5k to 3k rpm that is not the 5.5 fpc. It sounds deeper. Not muffled to me.
Yeah, definitely sounds like a CPC to me.
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That thing must sound wild unrestricted. I wonder if it will be louder than the C7 ZR1?
Old 10-29-2023, 10:44 AM
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Sounds like a vacuum cleaner. I hope its flat plane crank, uncorked it will sound like an F1 car.
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That exhaust configuration looks remarkedly similar to the one in this thread:
A Twin Turbo C8Z is born
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It could well be new CPC? Why not?
The question may be that the LT6 may have reached its reliability limit at 670hp?? After all, the LT6 has reached a mild stone that other manufacturers could? How much more stress can it actually support in FI form? No one knows except for GM Engineers. Perhaps one day when folks has more time and $$$$ to tinker with the LT6s.
At the end of the day the ZR1 should run a 1/4 in the low 10's or high 9's and quicker then the Z06 on track. Who cares if it doesn't have a FPC?

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The 'reliability limit' on the LT6 is primarily down to the revs. I wouldn't worry too much about a version with beefed up internals built for boost and most likely capable of 1200-1500 less rpm.
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LT3 with boost?
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Originally Posted by keagan
That thing must sound wild unrestricted. I wonder if it will be louder than the C7 ZR1?
I would hope yes, the C7 ZR1 is way too quiet in stock form.
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Originally Posted by BearZ06
I would hope yes, the C7 ZR1 is way too quiet in stock form.
I thought the C7 ZR1 was one of the loudest production cars. Well back when it released.
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The flat plane crankshaft is significantly stronger (nd lighter) than any CPC can hope to be.
The strength of a FPC engine is block vibration limited not piston/rod/crankshaft/power limited. {{That is the engine breaks when the vibrations disassemble the block--not when the combustion pressures bend something.}}
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Originally Posted by BearZ06
I would hope yes, the C7 ZR1 is way too quiet in stock form.
Yes!
Originally Posted by keagan
I thought the C7 ZR1 was one of the loudest production cars. Well back when it released.
And yes!

In Tour mode it is very quiet, in Racing mode it is very loud. Love that burble sound coming off the throttle.
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Originally Posted by combatninja
The 'reliability limit' on the LT6 is primarily down to the revs. I wouldn't worry too much about a version with beefed up internals built for boost and most likely capable of 1200-1500 less rpm.
yup.

An rpm drop from 8600 down to 7000 drops the 2nd order vibration by almost 35%. The increased bearing/rod stress from the required LT7 boost is less than the reduction in the 2nd order vibration, and in a different direction. Developing the LT6 was likely more challenging from an rpm/stress standpoint, while the LT7 is going to have some different transmission and heat rejection challenges.
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Old 10-31-2023, 10:07 AM
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That sounds really different... almost like the two cars are indeed testing different engine configs like the crazy guy on Facebook has been saying.
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I hear some hiss in the exhaust when under full throttle. I hope this is just a requirement for the Nurburgring noise limits, and is not present on the production car.
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While it definitely sounds different it still sounds 100% to me like FPC.

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