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I skipped 3 allocations holding out for Z07. I finally threw in the towel after doing some in my head math that I wouldn't see an allocation till maybe next summer. I was stuck at #40 on MM wait list after skipping 3 cycles. I finally changed my order and it was accepted with the CF ground effects(got lucky) and engine appearance package(also got lucky). MM has only received 17 Z07 allocations for MY 2023 out of 250+ Z06 allocations. Not good odds. They are a huge dealer and if they aren't getting many Z07 allocations, that means it's very likely those allocations will remain very low or non-existent and if I decided to keep waiting I'd still be on the list at #23. Unless you are a serious track rat, you really don't need the Z07 package. The aero itself? You can get that without Z07 but that is really what holds up a Z07 allocation, that big ****. I have no complaints with the decision I made and I'd be willing to be nobody else would if they had to go with the smaller aero package. To each their own I guess.
AERO is on constraint right now too. both exposed and CF painted.
Even if I go with more of a 2LZ stripper build without ceramics/Z07 etc, the build is $140k+... at that point I'm going to hold out for my optimal spec that's $165k. Spending $140k is way too much money for not having the exact build that I want. I've ordered many cars over the years and have NEVER had constraints, the only issue I recently had was with my Huracan EVO was the carbon sport seats as the STO's were taking priority and they delayed my build 3 months... not a big deal. Here we have GM that can't make enough of a carbon aero pack, there are plenty of suppliers in Asia that can make them to their standards and tooling lead times are maybe 2 months max.
Even if I go with more of a 2LZ stripper build without ceramics/Z07 etc, the build is $140k+... at that point I'm going to hold out for my optimal spec that's $165k. Spending $140k is way too much money for not having the exact build that I want. I've ordered many cars over the years and have NEVER had constraints, the only issue I recently had was with my Huracan EVO was the carbon sport seats as the STO's were taking priority and they delayed my build 3 months... not a big deal. Here we have GM that can't make enough of a carbon aero pack, there are plenty of suppliers in Asia that can make them to their standards and tooling lead times are maybe 2 months max.
For context, I have a full aero build and was accepted at 3000 status on 8/1. My TPW is early 2024. I don't expect constraints to lift for a while.
Even if I go with more of a 2LZ stripper build without ceramics/Z07 etc, the build is $140k+... at that point I'm going to hold out for my optimal spec that's $165k. Spending $140k is way too much money for not having the exact build that I want. I've ordered many cars over the years and have NEVER had constraints, the only issue I recently had was with my Huracan EVO was the carbon sport seats as the STO's were taking priority and they delayed my build 3 months... not a big deal. Here we have GM that can't make enough of a carbon aero pack, there are plenty of suppliers in Asia that can make them to their standards and tooling lead times are maybe 2 months max.
sorry, i had to laugh, referring to a 2LZ @ $140k as a stripped down build...
We track our cars and I'd really like to have the Cup2's and the aesthetics of the Z07, the base Z06 looks so similar to the Stingray that you really have to look closely to see that its the Z. I might try to hold out til next summer and then possibly fold for the base or wait for the ZR1. It's so disappointing that I have the first allocation at my dealer but I've had to pass on it... it was cool getting their first Stingray back in March 2020 though! Its quite annoying that GM can't develop a more robust supply chain, they've had years to sort this out... I really don't understand why this is the weakness point is carbon. I work in supply chain management, it shouldn't take longer than 6 months to fix this bottle neck
Later down the road I plan to add the wing and canards when there are better options to the Sigala stuff. What I want to do is obtain the rear fascia needed to accommodate the high wing without the 9 or 10 holes left behind by the lower wing. The front canards shouldn't be as difficult. Where I live, I'm glad I don't have those Cup2rs. My car would get sand blasted by them!
Also, a part of the problem is the Aerospace industry gobbling up a lot of the resources for CF. That certainly isn't helping the situation.
Later down the road I plan to add the wing and canards when there are better options to the Sigala stuff. What I want to do is obtain the rear fascia needed to accommodate the high wing without the 9 or 10 holes left behind by the lower wing. The front canards shouldn't be as difficult. Where I live, I'm glad I don't have those Cup2rs. My car would get sand blasted by them!
Also, a part of the problem is the Aerospace industry gobbling up a lot of the resources for CF. That certainly isn't helping the situation.
If I had to go with a base Z06, I'd also probably add the carbon flash front splitter and rockers in carbon flash to match the OEM rear wing in carbon flash. Even at $4k it's not cheap for non-OEM but it would give it a more aggressive look.
If I had to go with a base Z06, I'd also probably add the carbon flash front splitter and rockers in carbon flash to match the OEM rear wing in carbon flash. Even at $4k it's not cheap for non-OEM but it would give it a more aggressive look.
That is a great approach for sure. I did it with the intent to add the big aero to match later down the road. Plus I have the exposed CF roof which I love and having what I like to call 3 tiers(my interpretation only) makes it unique. The top is exposed CF, the center bits are all carbon flash(rear spoiler, side mirrors and boomerang) then the lower level all exposed CF. It seems to work. Everyone that sees it loves the spec and the contrast.
I skipped 3 allocations holding out for Z07. I finally threw in the towel after doing some in my head math that I wouldn't see an allocation till maybe next summer. I was stuck at #40 on MM wait list after skipping 3 cycles. I finally changed my order and it was accepted with the CF ground effects(got lucky) and engine appearance package(also got lucky). MM has only received 17 Z07 allocations for MY 2023 out of 250+ Z06 allocations. Not good odds. They are a huge dealer and if they aren't getting many Z07 allocations
The dealership I work at we have gotten 8 ZO6's 5 2023's and 3 2024's and only one was a ZO7 car. I have told all of my customers on the waiting list when your turn comes up remove ZO7 and any of the carbon ground effects if you want a car.
The dealership I work at we have gotten 8 ZO6's 5 2023's and 3 2024's and only one was a ZO7 car. I have told all of my customers on the waiting list when your turn comes up remove ZO7 and any of the carbon ground effects if you want a car.
UGH that's so lame! Many of us have waited years for a Z06 but if I can't get my ideal build... I'm likely passing. I really appreciate Porsche and Lamborghini that they have their supply chains sorted out to avoid this mess
UGH that's so lame! Many of us have waited years for a Z06 but if I can't get my ideal build... I'm likely passing. I really appreciate Porsche and Lamborghini that they have their supply chains sorted out to avoid this mess
I'm waiting 1 more round then GT3 for next spring.
I'm waiting 1 more round then GT3 for next spring.
If I could get a 992.2 GT3 allocation, I'd be a happy buyer but we all know that won't happen. I bought many Porsche's over the years but lost my status with my dealer in 2020-22 when I wouldn't pay their ADM's. For I'm enjoying my Huracan more and more each day, the ownership experience from going to the factory in Italy to the extremely smooth yearly services, I couldn't ask for more. I've really lost my enthusiasm for a Z06 over this Z07 constraint issue and the reason I'm buying it is for my wife and a track car but in these economic conditions, maybe its a blessing
If I could get a 992.2 GT3 allocation, I'd be a happy buyer but we all know that won't happen. I bought many Porsche's over the years but lost my status with my dealer in 2020-22 when I wouldn't pay their ADM's. For I'm enjoying my Huracan more and more each day, the ownership experience from going to the factory in Italy to the extremely smooth yearly services, I couldn't ask for more. I've really lost my enthusiasm for a Z06 over this Z07 constraint issue and the reason I'm buying it is for my wife and a track car but in these economic conditions, maybe its a blessing
I traded my 981 and then my 718 GT4 back to my same dealer and was put in queue for a 992.2 GT3, as i was expecting my z06.. I"m not in their 1st round but I will get an allocation once they take care of their VIP's. Now I'm looking at lightly used 992 GT3 as the prices are coming back down to earth and I know I won't lose my shirt when I go to trade it in on the .2. I'm thankful I won't have to deal with ADM's and I can't understand how it's become so common in the US.
I'm with you -This whole z06 order has been ridiculous, especially because it's not limited to a couple of model years.. they will make a bunch, but can't get their ***** together.
My businesses have flourished in the past 3 years, so balance had to come from somewhere.. If that means no Z06, then it's OK with me and I'll simply move on.. Lots of cars in this price range to enjoy.
@416vette I had a fully dialed in 981 GT4 that I sold back in 2021... I should have just kept that car for track use vs trying to get a C8Z. In CA/AZ there is no way I'm getting a new GT3 without paying like $50k ADM which I'm not willing to do. The car market is shifting pretty quickly with how much rates are going up, if the fed stays higher for longer we might normalize closer to pre-rona ways of car depreciation. If we can get the speculators out of the game, buying will be like the good ol days. I was watching some C8Z's on BAT, non-Z07's are going just over MSRP which the owners are likely losing money on after paying tax/registration etc.
BGA on the struggle bus now with only 4 2023 Z07s being produced yesterday. Truly bleak times in the carbon fiber supply chain game. Can’t imagine if you are a 2023 customer and won’t see your car for months. In any event, this does not bode well for 2024 Z07 production. Much more likely than not at this point not a single Z07 actually rolls down the line until 2024 calendar year.
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