Z06 insurance premiums
#41
Added my Z to my policy last week.
It only raised about 150 more per month. Not terrible. I think i pay a bit more for my M3. But my agent said it's because of the recent increase of car theft for BMW's.
It only raised about 150 more per month. Not terrible. I think i pay a bit more for my M3. But my agent said it's because of the recent increase of car theft for BMW's.
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My 2020 Stingray was insured with NCM (American Modern) for $1K giving me 6000 miles/year. Didn’t come close. My Z06 they want $2600+. The valuation is 30% higher, but the premium is 60% higher, so unfortunately I’ll be pulling the ejection handle on NCM. Hagerty was $500 cheaper and Grundy another $300 lower for no milage limit (don’t really need it). Any positive/negative experiences with either Hagerty or Grundy?
Grundy (Philadelphia Insurance) insured the vehicle for $85k no questions asked. $0 deductible, no mileage or use restrictions, no increase in premium at renewal. Premium is $1,061/yr. With recent sales of Carbon Z06s, and the significant rarity of a Callaway version (only 3), I'll be increasing that value soon.
In my area insurances rates climbed this summer. My other 3 vehicles and my home are with State Farm and our premiums increased by 25%. I shopped around all major carriers and our SF premiums are still 50% less than all other quotes we received - which is ridiculous. 47/37 yrs old, 830+ credit, no accidents but a couple not at fault claims in the last few years ($2k on my wife's previous Grand Cherokee & $4500 on my BMW, both were hit by road debris) and a roof claim/replacement within the last 4 years.
You can also add your other vehicles and home to a Grundy policy, but the rates they quoted me weren't any better than State Farm, so we just kept that policy.
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I switched from NCM (American Modern) to Grundy for my Callaway Carbon Edition Z06. NCM changed the premium multiple times from what they quoted me in writing, after verifying their quote multiple times. The premium increased at renewal and they wouldn't insure the vehicle for the value I wanted. 3k/mi, $500 deductible, premium they wanted was $1,500/yr for $65k value.
Grundy (Philadelphia Insurance) insured the vehicle for $85k no questions asked. $0 deductible, no mileage or use restrictions, no increase in premium at renewal. Premium is $1,061/yr. With recent sales of Carbon Z06s, and the significant rarity of a Callaway version (only 3), I'll be increasing that value soon.
In my area insurances rates climbed this summer. My other 3 vehicles and my home are with State Farm and our premiums increased by 25%. I shopped around all major carriers and our SF premiums are still 50% less than all other quotes we received - which is ridiculous. 47/37 yrs old, 830+ credit, no accidents but a couple not at fault claims in the last few years ($2k on my wife's previous Grand Cherokee & $4500 on my BMW, both were hit by road debris) and a roof claim/replacement within the last 4 years.
You can also add your other vehicles and home to a Grundy policy, but the rates they quoted me weren't any better than State Farm, so we just kept that policy.
Grundy (Philadelphia Insurance) insured the vehicle for $85k no questions asked. $0 deductible, no mileage or use restrictions, no increase in premium at renewal. Premium is $1,061/yr. With recent sales of Carbon Z06s, and the significant rarity of a Callaway version (only 3), I'll be increasing that value soon.
In my area insurances rates climbed this summer. My other 3 vehicles and my home are with State Farm and our premiums increased by 25%. I shopped around all major carriers and our SF premiums are still 50% less than all other quotes we received - which is ridiculous. 47/37 yrs old, 830+ credit, no accidents but a couple not at fault claims in the last few years ($2k on my wife's previous Grand Cherokee & $4500 on my BMW, both were hit by road debris) and a roof claim/replacement within the last 4 years.
You can also add your other vehicles and home to a Grundy policy, but the rates they quoted me weren't any better than State Farm, so we just kept that policy.
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I switched from NCM (American Modern) to Grundy for my Callaway Carbon Edition Z06. NCM changed the premium multiple times from what they quoted me in writing, after verifying their quote multiple times. The premium increased at renewal and they wouldn't insure the vehicle for the value I wanted. 3k/mi, $500 deductible, premium they wanted was $1,500/yr for $65k value.
Grundy (Philadelphia Insurance) insured the vehicle for $85k no questions asked. $0 deductible, no mileage or use restrictions, no increase in premium at renewal. Premium is $1,061/yr. With recent sales of Carbon Z06s, and the significant rarity of a Callaway version (only 3), I'll be increasing that value soon.
In my area insurances rates climbed this summer. My other 3 vehicles and my home are with State Farm and our premiums increased by 25%. I shopped around all major carriers and our SF premiums are still 50% less than all other quotes we received - which is ridiculous. 47/37 yrs old, 830+ credit, no accidents but a couple not at fault claims in the last few years ($2k on my wife's previous Grand Cherokee & $4500 on my BMW, both were hit by road debris) and a roof claim/replacement within the last 4 years.
You can also add your other vehicles and home to a Grundy policy, but the rates they quoted me weren't any better than State Farm, so we just kept that policy.
Grundy (Philadelphia Insurance) insured the vehicle for $85k no questions asked. $0 deductible, no mileage or use restrictions, no increase in premium at renewal. Premium is $1,061/yr. With recent sales of Carbon Z06s, and the significant rarity of a Callaway version (only 3), I'll be increasing that value soon.
In my area insurances rates climbed this summer. My other 3 vehicles and my home are with State Farm and our premiums increased by 25%. I shopped around all major carriers and our SF premiums are still 50% less than all other quotes we received - which is ridiculous. 47/37 yrs old, 830+ credit, no accidents but a couple not at fault claims in the last few years ($2k on my wife's previous Grand Cherokee & $4500 on my BMW, both were hit by road debris) and a roof claim/replacement within the last 4 years.
You can also add your other vehicles and home to a Grundy policy, but the rates they quoted me weren't any better than State Farm, so we just kept that policy.
#47
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I don’t have a Z yet but I got a VIN for a new 2023 off a dealer website similar to the msrp of my build ($130k). I gave it to my SF agent and got an immediate quote. Not bad considering I have 2 college students listed on my policy. Unfortunately they can’t be excluded from any vehicle otherwise my rate would be about $200 less. My stingray rate is $485 for 6mo. Z would be $665 for 6 mo.
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My 2020 Stingray was insured with NCM (American Modern) for $1K giving me 6000 miles/year. Didn’t come close. My Z06 they want $2600+. The valuation is 30% higher, but the premium is 60% higher, so unfortunately I’ll be pulling the ejection handle on NCM. Hagerty was $500 cheaper and Grundy another $300 lower for no milage limit (don’t really need it). Any positive/negative experiences with either Hagerty or Grundy?
#49
I don’t have a Z yet but I got a VIN for a new 2023 off a dealer website similar to the msrp of my build ($130k). I gave it to my SF agent and got an immediate quote. Not bad considering I have 2 college students listed on my policy. Unfortunately they can’t be excluded from any vehicle otherwise my rate would be about $200 less. My stingray rate is $485 for 6mo. Z would be $665 for 6 mo.
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Jmcdude (10-07-2023)
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I didn’t know that. When I upgraded from my C8 stingray I was told a figure of about $1500 or so which made sense as the valuation was the only thing that changed (or so I thought) both reflecting about a 30% or so increase (identical policy, just more expensive car). My premium arrived and I was shocked it was a 60% increase or double what I was told. I thought there must be some error and called NCM and the nice gal told me she also thought it should be about $1500, but transferred me to someone else (American Modern?).
They told me that my 60% increase premium was correct as anything over 500HP is considered in a different risk category, thus the whopping increase. I’ve already done the legwork with Hegarty and Grundy though with quotes, so don’t see what NCM could do for me now. Am I missing something? Still haven’t made a decision on my next move and looking for all available info though.
They told me that my 60% increase premium was correct as anything over 500HP is considered in a different risk category, thus the whopping increase. I’ve already done the legwork with Hegarty and Grundy though with quotes, so don’t see what NCM could do for me now. Am I missing something? Still haven’t made a decision on my next move and looking for all available info though.
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Yes, up to 6K listed, and you can buy additional miles if you're going to need them. On our SR, we were going to over for a club trip to Colorado, so I added an extra 2K miles for under $100.
My 2020 Stingray was insured with NCM (American Modern) for $1K giving me 6000 miles/year. Didn’t come close. My Z06 they want $2600+. The valuation is 30% higher, but the premium is 60% higher, so unfortunately I’ll be pulling the ejection handle on NCM. Hagerty was $500 cheaper and Grundy another $300 lower for no milage limit (don’t really need it). Any positive/negative experiences with either Hagerty or Grundy?
Grundy beat NCM by $800, but the limits are a deal breaker. Technically, you can’t even drive it to the store, only joy rides, car shows, not to work or ANY form of daily driving. I asked specifically about usage. Not using the car as a DD, but their policy is nothing that a DD would do. Looks like Hagerty is the front runner right now which is $500 cheaper than NCM but 5,000 miles vs. 6,000 which is fine. Still foraging for nuts and berries though…
#52
The limitations on NCM aren't as restrictive as everyone makes them out to be. You can't use the Corvette as a daily driver replacement (i.e. taking it directly to/from the grocery store on a rainy day), but you are allowed incidental use (i.e. out for a drive on a nice day, and need to stop by the grocery store for a few items). I've read the policy thoroughly and got this in writing from NCM. It's exactly the same type of coverage that Grundy has (I've had them as well).
Yes, up to 6K listed, and you can buy additional miles if you're going to need them. On our SR, we were going to over for a club trip to Colorado, so I added an extra 2K miles for under $100.
Sad to hear that. I've seen the same thing in the past with my C6 ZR1, started off cheaper with NCM, then it jumped a crazy amount so I switched it to Grundy. I've had claims (small) on both Grundy and NCM, and both were super easy to deal with and quick to pay. I've yet to try Hagerty, as at least for me, they have always been way higher than either NCM or Grundy.
This is incorrect. The Grundy & NCM don't allow for "daily driver use", but they do allow for incidental use when out for a pleasure drive (i.e. stopping at the store for a few items). What none of them want to see (including Hagerty), is using the car as a daily driver replacement. So basically my example above: it's a rainy day and you drive the Corvette directly to/from the grocery store for your normal weekly/monthly shopping trip to buy several hundred dollars in groceries. If it's a nice day and the wife and I want to go for a drive in the Corvette, and she wants to stop somewhere and shop for shoes, we are absolutely covered with any of them as that is "pleasure" use. NCM does offer an exception policy for driving to work (but it adds cost), Grundy does not (although again if it's "incidental" you'd be covered, and my agent in the past for Grundy said 1 or 2 times a month wouldn't be an issue), and I'm honestly not sure about Hagerty (but I'd advise you check the policy document closely before signing). Basically, any agreed value collector policy is going to require you to have a daily driver and not use the Corvette as a daily driver.
Yes, up to 6K listed, and you can buy additional miles if you're going to need them. On our SR, we were going to over for a club trip to Colorado, so I added an extra 2K miles for under $100.
Sad to hear that. I've seen the same thing in the past with my C6 ZR1, started off cheaper with NCM, then it jumped a crazy amount so I switched it to Grundy. I've had claims (small) on both Grundy and NCM, and both were super easy to deal with and quick to pay. I've yet to try Hagerty, as at least for me, they have always been way higher than either NCM or Grundy.
This is incorrect. The Grundy & NCM don't allow for "daily driver use", but they do allow for incidental use when out for a pleasure drive (i.e. stopping at the store for a few items). What none of them want to see (including Hagerty), is using the car as a daily driver replacement. So basically my example above: it's a rainy day and you drive the Corvette directly to/from the grocery store for your normal weekly/monthly shopping trip to buy several hundred dollars in groceries. If it's a nice day and the wife and I want to go for a drive in the Corvette, and she wants to stop somewhere and shop for shoes, we are absolutely covered with any of them as that is "pleasure" use. NCM does offer an exception policy for driving to work (but it adds cost), Grundy does not (although again if it's "incidental" you'd be covered, and my agent in the past for Grundy said 1 or 2 times a month wouldn't be an issue), and I'm honestly not sure about Hagerty (but I'd advise you check the policy document closely before signing). Basically, any agreed value collector policy is going to require you to have a daily driver and not use the Corvette as a daily driver.
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You are contradicting what the Grundy rep told me. I asked specifically about this including examples. I can only go on what an insurance rep tells me, not a forum “expert”. I will talk to them again and get another explanation to verify. I have my AM policy, and quotes with basic coverage info from Grundy and Hagerty, but the details matter. As for DD usage, I believe I was clear on that. NCM has had my stingray policy for almost 4 years with similar restrictions, so I’m familiar with language.
Grundy policy language from about 3 years ago:
It is agreed and understood that the following definition is added to the policy: "Collector vehicle" means an "antique" or "special interest" private passenger auto or motorcycle that:
1. Is maintained solely for use in exhibitions, parades, club activities, or other functions of public interest
2. Is not used for regular driving to work, school, errands, shopping, general transportation, secondary or back-up transportation, business or commercial purposes, except for limited pleasure use.
1. Is maintained solely for use in exhibitions, parades, club activities, or other functions of public interest
2. Is not used for regular driving to work, school, errands, shopping, general transportation, secondary or back-up transportation, business or commercial purposes, except for limited pleasure use.
USE:
1. My vehicle(s) will be used on a limited basis consistent with the operation of a collectible vehicle such as occasional pleasure drives and club/hobby activities.
2. My vehicles(s) will not be used frequently for regular driving such as driving to and from work or school, shopping, errands, general transportation, or back-up use.
1. My vehicle(s) will be used on a limited basis consistent with the operation of a collectible vehicle such as occasional pleasure drives and club/hobby activities.
2. My vehicles(s) will not be used frequently for regular driving such as driving to and from work or school, shopping, errands, general transportation, or back-up use.
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Grundy beat NCM by $800, but the limits are a deal breaker. Technically, you can’t even drive it to the store, only joy rides, car shows, not to work or ANY form of daily driving. I asked specifically about usage. Not using the car as a DD, but their policy is nothing that a DD would do. Looks like Hagerty is the front runner right now which is $500 cheaper than NCM but 5,000 miles vs. 6,000 which is fine. Still foraging for nuts and berries though…
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I appreciate the responses. Of course, I will see what the present policy language reads before selecting an insurer.
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Again, depends where you live. With Geico there was a $400 yr price increase compared to my C8. Decided to go with Grundy for a few hundred more because of agreed value, which GEICO does not do. This is a special car and a keeper for me, so well worth it.