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Old 08-07-2023, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkDiverZ06
Yup...High content cars almost always depreciate more than low content cars...Been that way forever. The long term value of your Z06, which is not a low production car, will largely be dictated by condition and miles, not expensive options.
Agree with this but I will caveat this. Meaningful performance options hold their value better than luxury/tech options on sports cars.

2LZ is not even a luxury option package since the materials you get are no better. It's basically a tech package. And that tech eventually becomes outdated. Also, most of what is in 2LZ can be accomplished at a fraction of the price through aftermarket solutions.
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Old 08-07-2023, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
Agree with this but I will caveat this. Meaningful performance options hold their value better than luxury/tech options on sports cars.

2LZ is not even a luxury option package since the materials you get are no better. It's basically a tech package. And that tech eventually becomes outdated. Also, most of what is in 2LZ can be accomplished at a fraction of the price through aftermarket solutions.
Really? Ventilated seats, head-up display, blind spot assist, and Bose are accomplished for a fraction of the price?

Or are you saying a sound system is accomplished for a fraction of the price? That’s not true either. And the Bose in the C8 happens to be excellent if not outstanding. The amount of power it puts out overcomes the engine and the wind turbulence even with the top down at high highway speed. A good equalizer on the audio streaming device can take care of any petty critiques of the Bose’s sound performance by the audio fashion czars.

I think the conclusion you are suggesting is absolutely incorrect.
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Really? Ventilated seats, head-up display, blind spot assist, and Bose are accomplished for a fraction of the price?

Or are you saying a sound system is accomplished for a fraction of the price? That’s not true either. And the Bose in the C8 happens to be excellent if not outstanding. The amount of power it puts out overcomes the engine and the wind turbulence even with the top down at high highway speed. A good equalizer on the audio streaming device can take care of any petty critiques of the Bose’s sound performance by the audio fashion czars.

I think the conclusion you are suggesting is absolutely incorrect.
I didn't say all. Most of those features add low enjoyment value IMO and can be skipped over. The 1LZ's 10 speakers (already too many IMO, adds weight) are still good and all that's needed when what you want to hear the most on this car is the motor. The heads up display is unnecessary when you have the dash fully visible in front of you (I turned HUD off in my existing Corvette, never used it). Ventilated seats can be nice but don't blow cold air and really not needed if you have the AC running in the car. The only thing I think worthwhile in 2LZ in blind spot assist, but if you get HTC you already get a rear camera mirror, and can add blind spot mirrors for great visibility. If you want the PDR toy/dash cam those are affordable as aftermarket solutions.

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I actually think the 3LZ is more desirable and profitable than Z07 in the long run. 3LZ unlocks other option availability and also includes all the bells and whistles which a lot of people want when buying used.

However, if you are looking at a strict percentage profit, then the 1LZ will be more. However, only because the initial price was less.

Perfect example was the recent C&B auction of a 1LZ Z07 that only was bid to ~$17k premium over MSRP, while another auction for a 3LZ Z07 which sold for more than $53k over MSRP. Both cars had carbon fiber wheels- it was probably as close to an apples - apples comparison as you can get for the current C8 Z07 market.
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
I didn't say all. Most of those features add low enjoyment value IMO and can be skipped over. The 1LZ's 10 speakers (too many, IMO, adds weight) are still good and all that's needed when what you want to hear the most on this car is the motor. The heads up display is unnecessary when you have the dash fully visible in front of you (I turned HUD off in my existing Corvette, never used it). Ventilated seats can be nice but don't blow cold air and really not needed if you have the AC running in the car. The only thing I think worthwhile in 2LZ in blind spot assist, but if you get HTC you already get a rear camera mirror, and can add blind spot mirrors for great visibility. If you want the PDR toy/dash cam those are affordable as aftermarket solutions.
I think you’re trying to convince yourself of these things; but it doesn’t make your analysis a sound one. Not being wise or argumentative — just don’t see how you could see things that way.

Just because most people aren’t knowledgeable enough to know that there’s no such thing as an air conditioned seat (in any vehicle) doesn’t mean ventilated seats are ineffective. I suppose you don’t live in a warm weather climate. Ever sit in your house and take a small handheld fan and blow ambient air onto your skin? After a few minutes, it’s like putting on an ice pack. The sensation becomes quite cool if not cold. When ambient air at 74 degrees is blowing on your skin — or in the car, up onto your butt and surrounding body components — that’s cool air. As we know our bodies are around 98 degrees.

I wonder if you’ve ever owned a car with ventilated seats. They work; and although not necessary, many guys appreciate them and would take the option if offered. Down here in Florida, 3rd largest state and absolutely huge car market, it’s considered a necessity by virtually all luxury car buyers.
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Originally Posted by marknagy13
Easy, the Z07. It's more rare, more desirable, and it's a track car. The more track focused components are what people want.
Even though 99% of those buyers will only be at the local C&C and never ever see serious track time.
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Really? Ventilated seats, head-up display, blind spot assist, and Bose are accomplished for a fraction of the price?

Or are you saying a sound system is accomplished for a fraction of the price? That’s not true either. And the Bose in the C8 happens to be excellent if not outstanding. The amount of power it puts out overcomes the engine and the wind turbulence even with the top down at high highway speed. A good equalizer on the audio streaming device can take care of any petty critiques of the Bose’s sound performance by the audio fashion czars.

I think the conclusion you are suggesting is absolutely incorrect.
HUD is standard on the Z, but you get bonus points for not referring to it as "heads" up display.
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Originally Posted by SharkDiverZ06
HUD is standard on the Z, but you get bonus points for not referring to it as "heads" up display.
Yea I don’t use nerd online forum acronyms like HUD, SA, ADM, etc. I write prose so anyone can read it and know what I’m talking about. I don’t subscribe to fraternity mentalities.

Head-up display is not standard on Z06. It requires 2LZ. You get bonus points for disseminating accurate information

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Edit: see my post 52 below. Head-Up Display shows as part of the 2LZ package on Z06 on the online configurator. I took my information off that but apparently the online configurator is incorrect. Apologies

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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Yea I don’t use nerd online forum acronyms like HUD, SA, ADM, etc. I write prose so anyone can read it and know what I’m talking about. I don’t subscribe to fraternity mentalities.

Head-up display is not standard on Z06. It requires 2LZ. You get bonus points for disseminating accurate information

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Old 08-07-2023, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by smithers
Okay here are my screenshots from the Chevy web site which show Head-Up Display as part of 2LZ. Whose screen shots from supposedly the same source are accurate?




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Mine is right Yours is a little odd as it also points out GT1 seats.. which are also standard on a 1LZ. Leave it to Chevy to make this all confusing.

Here's a 1LZ window sticker: https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...YD2D39P5604238

HUD is standard equipment on all Z06's
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Originally Posted by smithers
Mine is right Yours is a little odd as it also points out GT1 seats.. which are also standard on a 1LZ. Leave it to Chevy to make this all confusing.

Here's a 1LZ window sticker: https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...YD2D39P5604238

HUD is standard equipment on all Z06's
I stand corrected, thank you. My information was taken directly from the Z06 online configurator. Therefore I can’t say I made a mistake 😂

Apologies to SharkDiverZ06 regarding my post #48.

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All of them will be considered hard assets as the dollar finally crashes. Buy what you want knowing that your car has value when the dollar is dead.
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I think you need to go medium level options.

Z07 because its rare now.

I ended up flipping my 1st TRX because the cash was too good being offered for it. 12k over sticker for a level 1 and running boards. (No premium sound, no bead lock wheels, no sunroof etc). But it had leather seats and a bright color with the Hellcat engine!

A buddy of mine ordered a Level 2 for his car lot. He made about 2k on it but his sticker price was 12k more than mine with just about every option picked.

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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Yea I don’t use nerd online forum acronyms like HUD, SA, ADM, etc. I write prose so anyone can read it and know what I’m talking about. I don’t subscribe to fraternity mentalities.

Head-up display is not standard on Z06. It requires 2LZ. You get bonus points for disseminating accurate information

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Edit: see my post 52 below. Head-Up Display shows as part of the 2LZ package on Z06 on the online configurator. I took my information off that but apparently the online configurator is incorrect. Apologies
Hard to believe the configurator has an error...
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Originally Posted by Blackwater0323
All of them will be considered hard assets as the dollar finally crashes. Buy what you want knowing that your car has value when the dollar is dead.
Hard assets that have a dollar value based on supply and demand...
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Best resale will be the 70th anniversary cars with exposed CF Z07 pack.


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Old 08-07-2023, 08:14 PM
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Not with those wheels. That selection is going to depreciate your Z06 by more than any trim or aero package ever would.
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I spec'd a Yellow 1LZ Z07 and a nicely loaded Red Mist 3LZ. Price is almost within 1000: 137,415 for the Z07 and 138,490 for the 3LZ.

Think I'd lean 3LZ since I doubt it will see a track.
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Not apples to apples, but apples to maybe pears.

What has less depreciation, a 911 Turbo or a GT3?

I think Z07 will add some marketability in the future.


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