descartesfool

It will be interesting to see when Sport Auto magazine runs the Z06/Z07 on the track with their hot shoe Christian Gebhardt driving. Can they beat the 7 minute mark? Not expecting a GM laptime anytime soon based on the recent podcast interview, so perhaps a German magazine test will provide a good comparison test. Both on PSC2R tires of course.

combatninja

The GTB employed 819hp, hybrid sorcery, a hired gun and a $340K base price in the effort to crack 7 min. Spoiler alert: the Z06 is not going to match that time. And that's fine.

NK-minnesota

The 2033 Z06 will be designed using the 296 as a reference

JockItch

64drvr

Impressive feat.

JockItch

With the right driver, I think a Z07 coupe with the carbon fiber wheels will

CanadianVetster

Did you notice he speed on the last straight…… very impressive top end speed.

combatninja

992 GT3 cracked 7min so you might be right. The real mind-bending number is the 6:49 put up by the GT3 RS. That's with a 'mere' 525hp, mind you. Active aero is the secret sauce to getting these street cars to put up numbers that were inconceivable just a decade ago. Back then, the 918 Spyder put up a 6:57 on the 'old' record course. Apples to apples, the new GT3 RS clocked a 6:44 on that portion. That a 911-based car would do that a decade later with 350 less horsepower would not have been believable at the time.

NK-minnesota

The Ferrari weighs 3250 lbs

z28lt1

Unfortunately if the same guys end up testing a Z06 it will probably be a Euro-spec one, which is down 34HP and 21 lb-ft of torque, so would expect the numbers to be off at least a handful of seconds from a US spec car.

That 3250 weight for the Ferrari is dry weight, folks that have weighed them seem to be up over 3600 pounds. Still a lighter than the Z06 and still an impressive car.

combatninja

You're out of your mind. Ferrari propaganda that is claiming some mythical 'dry' weight. Ferrari has been doing this for years. Closest figure I can substantiate is 3,527lbs but have seen up to 3,633. Depends on exact spec certainly but there is no way you are getting a car the size of the GTB with a lithium battery at 7.45kWh at the kind of weight you are claiming. Not possible.

soulsea

fyp.

cryptonic

These Ring times really seem to be important for that <1% who cares. Great for owner bragging rights and guys who memorize car magazines and regurgitate these stats to their drinking buddies.
A second or two above or below 7 minutes is just not anything to sweat or debate as it will not translate to any discernable performance difference in street use or in the hands of a non professional at a "track".
Sure, if you are going to make a living racing your Z06 or 296 then go for the one that is a second or two faster at the "Ring" otherwise it is purely academic and makes no difference at all.

NK-minnesota

The proof is in the ring time. Rest is just chitter chatter

RBK

Your point if valid and well taken. The "fact" is , we have allot of arm chair racers. Then why do they buy 650hp cars?
I have driven over 700hp on the street and often wonder to myself "who needs this much power for the street"? The only people who ever use the power are those who track or risk their lives and others on the street. At the end of the day, I suspect, owning a car with 600+hp make people "feel" good and they can "talk" about what is in their garage. The real speed of the car will never be seen by 99% reading this so it begs the question of the ZR1 (800hp) and Zora (1000hp). How many may actually hurt themselves and contrarily how many will be driving the speed limit with a "race car"?

Higgs Boson

Patek and Swatch both tell time.

MattMD

Ferrari definitely lies. 1669 kg = 3679 lb.

Jridden

The car is plenty fast for me no matter what the Ring time turns out to be.

NK-minnesota

wow. Thanks! (Sweeeeet car btw)

descartesfool

Not a hired gun driving. Christian Gebhardt is the regular driver setting Ring lap times for the German magazine Sport und Auto as part of the magazine's Supertest feature they do on multiple performance cars. He did a 7:13.6 lap with the C7Z06 at the Ring in 2017, and that is a great lap. I am certain he will run a good lap with the C8 Z06.


For some reason GM is always whining about how they can't do representative lap times because Germany, because blah, blah, blah...., but a car magazine with infinitely less resources than GM can. What's up with that?

The GTB cannot deploy 819 HP except for a short time due to its miniscule 7.5 kWh battery. The car's 2.96 litre twin turbo V6 puts out 656 HP, so more or less the same as the Z06. The 165 HP electric motor kicks in for short bursts until it has time to recharge,, making it very similar to the Corvette E-Ray.