Merge this!!!
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Merge this!!!
We are now in March 2023. Relatively few have received a Z06's, and even fewer a Z07 iteration. Given how "relatively" few have received the cars and how little they are being driven, i.e. dealers, resellers, influencers, and those living in cold climates, etc., there seem to be too many reports of engine/transmission, and other problems.
The thing that really bothers me is how many dealers have ordered cars for THEMSELVES (yes, they have a right to do it) and deprive those on waiting lists their turn. Adding insult to injury, dealers are postponing making cars available as they try to auction or charge so much over MSRP, they eliminate or discourage many.
People here speak of the ZR1 or ERay. Good luck folks. At this pace, all of us are going to be allot older before most here get into a Z06 and even later a Z07, let alone a ZR1.
A sign of the times of inefficiency, false promises, supply and employment problems, as well as quality control issues. No rationalizations, no excuses.
If you calmly accept what is happening, you should probably join a Monastery or Convent because you are other worldly. .
The thing that really bothers me is how many dealers have ordered cars for THEMSELVES (yes, they have a right to do it) and deprive those on waiting lists their turn. Adding insult to injury, dealers are postponing making cars available as they try to auction or charge so much over MSRP, they eliminate or discourage many.
People here speak of the ZR1 or ERay. Good luck folks. At this pace, all of us are going to be allot older before most here get into a Z06 and even later a Z07, let alone a ZR1.
A sign of the times of inefficiency, false promises, supply and employment problems, as well as quality control issues. No rationalizations, no excuses.
If you calmly accept what is happening, you should probably join a Monastery or Convent because you are other worldly. .
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03-08-2023, 06:45 AM
You can say what you want about the process, the wait and the insane markups…. BUT at the end of the day, those of us that have our cars know 1 thing for sure. For the money at MSRP, it may be the best sports car ever built, and I personally wouldn’t take $100,000 over, I DIG THIS CAR…. BIGTIME.
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I've decided to calmly accept the nonsense and enjoy driving the cars I do have. I couldn't be considered for the monastery. The Z06 will come in time.
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There have been very few documented reports of engines failures with now over 1000 Z06's produced so far. I agree that production has sucked. I wish the demand wasn't as high as it is and I think it will only get worse in that regard as more and more realize what a game changing supercar this is. People who wouldn't ever glance at a vette that have DEEP pockets and own multiple exotics are now interested... that is a scary situation for the 'ordinary' guys that would love to have a barn full of cars but are lucky to be able to afford a C8Z at MSRP if you were lucky enough to get on a list long ago at one of the big 3. I wish it weren't true but I think production will remain a problem for the foreseeable future and the prices will remain absurd for most. Just look at the 'base' C8 4 model years in. Crazy that people are still getting ADM for them or wait on a list for 10 months for a base model unless you get lucky. People will chime in about the economy, inflation, yada yada yada, its simple math. Most who can afford a 150k toy are less effected than your ordinary Joe by the whims of the economy. Demand is off the charts, production is, and will remain, a problem. By all accounts this is the BEST. VETTE. EVER. if only we could get one...
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There have been very few documented reports of engines failures with now over 1000 Z06's produced so far. I agree that production has sucked. I wish the demand wasn't as high as it is and I think it will only get worse in that regard as more and more realize what a game changing supercar this is. People who wouldn't ever glance at a vette that have DEEP pockets and own multiple exotics are now interested... that is a scary situation for the 'ordinary' guys that would love to have a barn full of cars but are lucky to be able to afford a C8Z at MSRP if you were lucky enough to get on a list long ago at one of the big 3. I wish it weren't true but I think production will remain a problem for the foreseeable future and the prices will remain absurd for most. Just look at the 'base' C8 4 model years in. Crazy that people are still getting ADM for them or wait on a list for 10 months for a base model unless you get lucky. People will chime in about the economy, inflation, yada yada yada, its simple math. Most who can afford a 150k toy are less effected than your ordinary Joe by the whims of the economy. Demand is off the charts, production is, and will remain, a problem. By all accounts this is the BEST. VETTE. EVER. if only we could get one...
It’s not about people with money will all of a sudden be bankrupt, it’s about spending habits. Spending habits will change in a down economy because the rich will take steps to enrich themselves further. If the Z06 situation remains as it is now, then maybe they still hold onto it and let it appreciate. If Z06 ever depreciates or the return becomes eh, they may forgo the toy for that chance to make more money.
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normally I would agree but for me, eray? NO THANKS, also had my fill of forced induction cars, the new Ferraris may be faster but the last naturally aspirated V8 Ferraris are still coveted...
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I was lucky and also had some fore sight! I went to the Reveal for the SR and before I received my 2020 SR I sent MM a deposit for the Z06. I ended up being #60!
I didn't know what the Z06 was going to be but could only imagine after seeing the SR in July 2019 in Calif that it would have to be something great.
I got the SR in March 2020 and it was great car but after having a 2015 Z06 for a few years, the SR didn't have it for me!
I have almost 1k miles on the C8Z and dropped it off the PPF tint and ceramic coat!
The car is incredible and worth every penny of the MSRP!
If, this is March and they have only produced about 1000 Z's, looks like 2023 will be a rare car. They will probably extend the 2023 MY production!
Especially the 70th anniversary models !
I would have ordered an anniversary but didn't like the suede seats!
If, I didn't get one at MSRP, I'd be will ing to pay up to 15K or so to get one!
The Eray will be kool but it won't be a Z!!
I didn't know what the Z06 was going to be but could only imagine after seeing the SR in July 2019 in Calif that it would have to be something great.
I got the SR in March 2020 and it was great car but after having a 2015 Z06 for a few years, the SR didn't have it for me!
I have almost 1k miles on the C8Z and dropped it off the PPF tint and ceramic coat!
The car is incredible and worth every penny of the MSRP!
If, this is March and they have only produced about 1000 Z's, looks like 2023 will be a rare car. They will probably extend the 2023 MY production!
Especially the 70th anniversary models !
I would have ordered an anniversary but didn't like the suede seats!
If, I didn't get one at MSRP, I'd be will ing to pay up to 15K or so to get one!
The Eray will be kool but it won't be a Z!!
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We are now in March 2023. Relatively few have received a Z06's, and even fewer a Z07 iteration. Given how "relatively" few have received the cars and how little they are being driven, i.e. dealers, resellers, influencers, and those living in cold climates, etc., there seem to be too many reports of engine/transmission, and other problems.
The thing that really bothers me is how many dealers have ordered cars for THEMSELVES (yes, they have a right to do it) and deprive those on waiting lists their turn. Adding insult to injury, dealers are postponing making cars available as they try to auction or charge so much over MSRP, they eliminate or discourage many.
People here speak of the ZR1 or ERay. Good luck folks. At this pace, all of us are going to be allot older before most here get into a Z06 and even later a Z07, let alone a ZR1.
A sign of the times of inefficiency, false promises, supply and employment problems, as well as quality control issues. No rationalizations, no excuses.
If you calmly accept what is happening, you should probably join a Monastery or Convent because you are other worldly. .
The thing that really bothers me is how many dealers have ordered cars for THEMSELVES (yes, they have a right to do it) and deprive those on waiting lists their turn. Adding insult to injury, dealers are postponing making cars available as they try to auction or charge so much over MSRP, they eliminate or discourage many.
People here speak of the ZR1 or ERay. Good luck folks. At this pace, all of us are going to be allot older before most here get into a Z06 and even later a Z07, let alone a ZR1.
A sign of the times of inefficiency, false promises, supply and employment problems, as well as quality control issues. No rationalizations, no excuses.
If you calmly accept what is happening, you should probably join a Monastery or Convent because you are other worldly. .
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You can say what you want about the process, the wait and the insane markups…. BUT at the end of the day, those of us that have our cars know 1 thing for sure. For the money at MSRP, it may be the best sports car ever built, and I personally wouldn’t take $100,000 over, I DIG THIS CAR…. BIGTIME.
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Problems, problems, oh what to do. Wait for the so called best Vette to date or move on. Some with the bucks will move on or have never even considered a Z06 and others will just have to wait. Pretty simple.
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You can say what you want about the process, the wait and the insane markups…. BUT at the end of the day, those of us that have our cars know 1 thing for sure. For the money at MSRP, it may be the best sports car ever built, and I personally wouldn’t take $100,000 over, I DIG THIS CAR…. BIGTIME.
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I am curious about ordering other cars. I am sure many of you have or are in the process of buying a car other than a Z06.
In my case, tired of waiting for the Z06, I bought a Cadillac CTV5 Black Wing which I got from time of ordering in October to delivery in February 3.5 months.
I am happy for those who have received their Z06, but given what I am seeing regarding ordering other cars, it seems there is more than simply supply chain issues plaguing production. Could be wrong, always wear out the eraser on a pencil before the lead.
In my case, tired of waiting for the Z06, I bought a Cadillac CTV5 Black Wing which I got from time of ordering in October to delivery in February 3.5 months.
I am happy for those who have received their Z06, but given what I am seeing regarding ordering other cars, it seems there is more than simply supply chain issues plaguing production. Could be wrong, always wear out the eraser on a pencil before the lead.
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I am curious about ordering other cars. I am sure many of you have or are in the process of buying a car other than a Z06.
In my case, tired of waiting for the Z06, I bought a Cadillac CTV5 Black Wing which I got from time of ordering in October to delivery in February 3.5 months.
I am happy for those who have received their Z06, but given what I am seeing regarding ordering other cars, it seems there is more than simply supply chain issues plaguing production. Could be wrong, always wear out the eraser on a pencil before the lead.
In my case, tired of waiting for the Z06, I bought a Cadillac CTV5 Black Wing which I got from time of ordering in October to delivery in February 3.5 months.
I am happy for those who have received their Z06, but given what I am seeing regarding ordering other cars, it seems there is more than simply supply chain issues plaguing production. Could be wrong, always wear out the eraser on a pencil before the lead.
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I don’t get these posts. If you are going to be mad at anyone be mad at yourself for not getting on a MSRP list years ago. Demand makes the market price. GM way undervalued the car and should have just raised the MSRP obviously.
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What about the people that were on a list at MSRP 2 to 3 years ago, and now they have been told to cough up an extra 50k to get the car. Being on a list meant nothing unless the dealer was ethical in business practices and customer loyalty meant something.
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I know right, I get so angry with myself when I can't see the future and plan accordingly
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