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Old 02-05-2023, 12:32 PM
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Let's post all the 1/4 mile times here in real world conditions such as no drag radials, no race gas, no modifications, no surface prep, etc. Basically what anyone can accomplish simply driving to the drag strip (or mexico and use draggy or vbox), foot on the brake, hard on gas, lift off.

This is the one that was posted yesterday. 10.9@129

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02-14-2023, 07:18 PM
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Default NEW STOCK C8 Z06 1/4 MI ET & MPH RECORD...134mph in the 1/4

After watching LMR do so well with their C8 Z06 modded w/ High Flow cats, I was curious to see how quick a bone stock C8 Z06 with no mods, just drag radials and some sea level type DA on a 55 degree day. Prior to my 1/4 mi day Feb 11th 2023, the quickest & fastest stock C8 Z06 was 10.51@130mph. LMR added high flow cats, picked up 17 RWHP, and went 10.35@131 which was amazing. Now it was my turn to try the 1/4, except bone stock no exhaust mods. The car did not disappoint! The car actually had multiple 10.4 runs that day and actually also achieved the highest mph in the 1/8 mi of any C8 Z06 on multiple other runs. I'll share the full video of the Raceday later this week where I share information on what it took to get the right launch control setting set in the car to achieve the best runs. This car lets you adjust launch RPM between 3500-5000 RPM, and slip percentage 5%-15%. I found out that day that slip percentage does not mean tire slip, they have to do with the transmission(super helpful in dialing in the perfect launch). There is not a one size fits all launch setting that works perfectly all the time, it's all based on how well your track is prep and what your tire combination is to figure out what launch settings are going to work best for you for that day. What settings works for you that day, might not work the next day. It's kind of fun! Here's my video:


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Originally Posted by desmondhume
Let's post all the 1/4 mile times here in real world conditions such as no drag radials, no race gas, no modifications, no surface prep, etc. Basically what anyone can accomplish simply driving to the drag strip (or mexico and use draggy or vbox), foot on the brake, hard on gas, lift off.

This is the one that was posted yesterday. 10.9@129

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekBkLd-jwMk
eh. C7 Z06 A8 time and speed and at elevation it will be even slower. The Eray is going to be the drag racer. This car is for the twisties when the C8 aint enough.
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lol i said it sooooooooo long ago the ERAY will be a faster street car to the z06
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lol i said it sooooooooo long ago the ERAY will be a faster street car to the z06
So is a Tesla Plaid and I wouldn’t want one of those either.
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Originally Posted by 19/C7Z
eh. C7 Z06 A8 time and speed and at elevation it will be even slower. The Eray is going to be the drag racer. This car is for the twisties when the C8 aint enough.

Just one video but YIKES! The ERAY's 10.5 1/4 time was in real world conditions. I'll be looking to see what the best Z06 real world time ends up being.

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The car just came out so we will see hero runs trickle in for the next few years.

This car is already better than the C7Z, its doing everything NA.
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I really didnt want to turn this into C7 Z06 vs C8 Z06 thread. I also clearly asked "real world" results which really excludes hero runs or most ideal conditions. A car running 10.5 @ 131.6 consistently will really feel much faster than a car that runs 10.9 @ 129 consistently. 0.4 seconds is basically several car lengths. Why I am saying this is because when you and I are driving in Mexico or wherever, our perceived performance is not going to be the "super duper Emilia's 10.5 second" case. Our perceived performance is most likely like this video. Which is still super fast but 10.5 is almost AWD territory which I dont think you and I and average person in this car can attain. I am not interested in at all what the car can do in a hero run as I am not a bench racer.

I think 99% of us in real world will experience a 10.9 1/4 mile time (i.e. go on a desert, strap vbox on your windshield, and do launch control on an unprepped surface).
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We all know the Z06/7 was designed for a race course, not for 1/4 mile runs.
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Originally Posted by range96
We all know the Z06/7 was designed for a race course, not for 1/4 mile runs.
Yes but 1/4 mile is a metric that helps us measure our perceived performance of the car in most daily driving situations. Its not the utmost goal (to go drag racing) but its a metric (similar to 0-60 time or braking distance) that we can use to figure out how it actually feels.
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Originally Posted by Shokosugi
So is a Tesla Plaid and I wouldn’t want one of those either.
Not many can beat that car anyway. Unless you want a lucid air which is double the price or a rimac which is 2 million dollars.

The plaid is very good for what it is.
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It appears that this run occurred at my drag strip track in Bradenton Florida. If you are talking ET you can take another 3 to 4 tenths off that time. That c8 Z06 slipped and bogged off the line. Bradenton Motorsport track is very tricky....one moment it's sticky then later it's all gone especially in that particular lane. Like someone said earlier.....there will be some hero runs at this particular track whenever we get some favorable DA.
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Originally Posted by desmondhume
Yes but 1/4 mile is a metric that helps us measure our perceived performance of the car in most daily driving situations. Its not the utmost goal (to go drag racing) but its a metric (similar to 0-60 time or braking distance) that we can use to figure out how it actually feels.
Good point.
I, myself typically look at the 1/4 mile times, just don't dwell on them as there are so many variables. Not just for the cars (gearing, hp, torque, suspension, weight, aero, tires), but environment (air, elevation, temperature, track surface) and driver. I prefer a simple stat, like power per weight.
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Real world C7 Z06 has gone 10.4 @ 134, hopefully the C8Z can top that with some more seat time.
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Real world C7 Z06 has gone 10.4 @ 134, hopefully the C8Z can top that with some more seat time.

Using the same source Motor Trend got 11.2 @127mph for the C7 Z06 and 10.6 @131mph in the C8 Z06. Therefore using that logic (if) the C7 was legit beating that on the street then there is no reason to believe that the C8 could not at least match the numbers they got.
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Originally Posted by Nitro-C5
Using the same source Motor Trend got 11.2 @127mph for the C7 Z06 and 10.6 @131mph in the C8 Z06. Therefore using that logic (if) the C7 was legit beating that on the street then there is no reason to believe that the C8 could not at least match the numbers they got.
I ran 10.92 @ 130 on the nose in a new '16 Z06 with 700 miles on the clock and hadn't run a 1/4 mile in 12 years.
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And LMR did 10.3 @ 132... why is everyone latching onto one time? I ran 12.17 @ 115+ in my C5 Z06 all day long and many guys couldn't get under 12.5. One example is just one data point.
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I’ve never timed myself, but the 458 is listed as 10.8 sec @134.2 mph for the quarter mile. The Lamborghini STO is listed as 10.5 @ 136…..

A couple of observations…….both these numbers are within the noise of the C8Z’s posting. Pretty impressive.

As the thread title states. the best was to go about these measurements is to take a bunch of results and average them, or if doing direct comparisons run them back to back under identical conditions.

FWIW:

1) I don’t believe my 458 will outdo a C8Z in the quarter

2) I don’t believe a C8Z will hang with my STO in the same distance.

3) I’ve never drag raced my cars and don’t view this as a benchmark of a car’s intrinsic value

4) hybrids and electrics will obliterate these numbers anyway, rendering such comparisons irrelevant.

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10.6 seconds at 0 DA. We already know this. GM methodology is to average multiple times across multiple cars on a clean but unprepped surface and correct the times to standard temps and pressures (not 100% what they are, but assume 0 DA) and then average the times. They do not cherry pick the 0-6 and 1/4 mile times.

So I am going with 10.6 seconds.
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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
And LMR did 10.3 @ 132... why is everyone latching onto one time? I ran 12.17 @ 115+ in my C5 Z06 all day long and many guys couldn't get under 12.5. One example is just one data point.
Except that wasn't stock, race cats and a tire. C7Z have gone 10.2 @ 137 on just a tire.
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^^^^^137 is some *** kicking trap MPH for sure.


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