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Assuming the ZR1 is next to be revealed, any guess on base pricing of ZR1 ?

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Old 04-27-2023, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by fzust
The biggest question is whether Zora and ZR1 are 2 separate models. One model should likely be Eray+Z06 because it is all there and easy. Not sure if the TT will be a thing or not. Some variant of that + Eray could be Zora or ZR1
LT7 is about as confirmed as confirmed can get right now.

Engine stand with an LT6 on it labeled LT6 and LT7. In savagegeese how to build the C8 video, one of the tools the builder was using was labeled, "LT6/LT7".

Always the chance these were made in advance and the LT7 has since been canned, but an LT7 exists or existed.......
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Old 04-27-2023, 09:35 AM
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^ Exactly... it exists/existed, how they bring it to market is yet to be seen.
Old 04-27-2023, 10:36 AM
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If the ZR1 comes as 2025, that's two model years of price hikes for the Z06, so I suspect the 2025 Z06 is $112k - $115k before GG tax. The Zr1 will likely have CCBs standard, so a comparable 2025 Z06 becomes $120k+. Add $40k premium and $159,900 becomes my guess. Wouldn't surprise me to see a $40k adder over the Z07 package, bringing it in the range of $169k.

On the GS side show, $89k if it has a new DOHC engine producing over 500 HP.

As to other comments about not introducing the GS because of the stingray wait list and the GS cannibalizing stingray sales, GM welcomes that. If demand exceeds production capacity, moving the mix upscale is more profitable. GM would be happy with 20% - 25% of corvette sales being stingrays and the rest higher priced models. Keeps the pipeline open to buyers at all price levels and creates aspirations for trading up.
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What government mandates change, being introduced in the meantime will also impact the performance and pricing levels of the ZR1 and other model variations.
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Originally Posted by range96
What government mandates change, being introduced in the meantime will also impact the performance and pricing levels of the ZR1 and other model variations.
It's a corporate fleet average. I doubt ZR1 will exceed 4000 a year( probably will mirror C7 ZR1). That's not going to be noticeable in GM's fleet average.

Same with Z06 even if it hits 14,000-15,000 a year as GrandSport speculates. Barely will put a dent into GM's corporate average.
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Originally Posted by chevyrules727
It's a corporate fleet average. I doubt ZR1 will exceed 4000 a year( probably will mirror C7 ZR1). That's not going to be noticeable in GM's fleet average.

Same with Z06 even if it hits 14,000-15,000 a year as GrandSport speculates. Barely will put a dent into GM's corporate average.
Certain emission levels must also be met (which may change) and that dictates power levels which affects pricing. In general, the higher the power, the higher the price.

Agree, the fuel milage doesn't influence it much, low volumes and we have cars that get 14 mpg and cars that get 50. They use GG tax to offset it.
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
According to two very reliable sources here, it is coming.
the one thing I have learned on this forum is that NO reliable sources exist
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Originally Posted by kratedisease
the one thing I have learned on this forum is that NO reliable sources exist
There's actually a few, but they're not the ones talking.
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Originally Posted by international blue
Yes, the expensive body + a new expensive engine = the price we want regardless of the cost of the parts < $85,000.00

or to restate mathematically...

$105,000.00 + $45,000.00 = $84,999.00

Is this an artihmatic education problem or one of those feelings over facts culture things?
Speaking of "arithmetic" education your 2 items of summation each include an engine. You double dipped.

The $105k base of the Z06 is HIGHLY driven by the bespoke LT6 engine - due to use of exotic materials and process, and no amortization to other product lines.

A new SBC DOHC would become a standard power train for multiple product lines, including high volume trucks. So the ability to amortize would mean only incremental cost increase over the LT2.

A Grand Sport model with base price of $85k would be a ~$20k increase for wide body, brakes and suspension. Like like the previous Grand Sports.
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I'd expect $149,995
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Originally Posted by MattMD
I'd expect $149,995
I expected $95K for the Z06. I hope you're right.
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I'm thinking north of 160k.
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$198,995
Old 05-02-2023, 07:26 AM
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The zr1 is going to be allot. A lot because they can save they know it now for sure. I’m thinking 149/159 base and then Porsche style optioning to the moon with maxed out cars coming in at 225-235.
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TT and lighter than the Z06 via magnesium and CF: $199K
They now know with confidence there's a market for $200K+ Chevy's after seeing the ADMs being paid in clown world.
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Originally Posted by ZRacerLE
TT and lighter than the Z06 via magnesium and CF: $199K
They now know with confidence there's a market for $200K+ Chevy's after seeing the ADMs being paid in clown world.
Historically, the ZR1s were slightly heavier than the Z06 counterparts due to stronger components, and more cooling. The CF, magnesium, titanium pieces help offsetting but not eliminating the extra weight. Even the Z06 that is 'designed' for the track doesn't lack the luxury options that customers 'expect'.

Originally Posted by Savoy2001
The zr1 is going to be allot. A lot because they can save they know it now for sure. I’m thinking 149/159 base and then Porsche style optioning to the moon with maxed out cars coming in at 225-235.
This is more in-line with my current expectation unless the focus will be on building very limited number of cars. The C4/C6 ZR1s were built for 6/5 years, the C7 only in 2019. I don't think the C8 ZR1 will be a single year car.

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Guys... Zerv told us years ago > $169,900 duh.
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Originally Posted by range96
Historically, the ZR1s were slightly heavier than the Z06 counterparts due to stronger components, and more cooling. The CF, magnesium, titanium pieces help offsetting but not eliminating the extra weight. Even the Z06 that is 'designed' for the track doesn't lack the luxury options that customers 'expect'.


This is more in-line with my current expectation unless the focus will be on building very limited number of cars. The C4/C6 ZR1s were built for 6/5 years, the C7 only in 2019. I don't think the C8 ZR1 will be a single year car.
ZR1 is always the ultimate technology showcase and I'm thinking this time the showcase will be extreme use of exotic materials. The Z06 is maxed out on weight because of those paradoxical luxuries in the "track version" of the C8, so it should be feasible to come in lighter with enough magnesium and cf (and cost budget). I also think it's key to focus on getting to a lighter weight than the Z so that the hybrid TT car (if it's not a myth) weighs less than 4000lbs.
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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
Guys... Zerv told us years ago > $169,900 duh.
Yuup! And we made fun of him until he left.
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Originally Posted by range96
Yuup! And we made fun of him until he left.
Technically he said the base C8 would cost that much, so we made fun of him :p


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