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​​​​​​I've been promoting the E-Ray exactly for that reason

JerriVette

The original poster might be correct

go
to 19 minutes and 11 seconds and both listen and watch.

quicker at speeds under 130 mph and it’s got the sound of the lt2 and the jet turbine sound.

also stated it’s probably the better auto x corvette


id take either I think.

JerriVette

The electric motor whine reminds me of a supercharger sound in addition to the cool
rumble of the lt2

2slow2speed

Not sure if anyone noticed but the torque vectoring on the front axle will be done via brakes since it won't have an e-diff up front.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-ray-revealed/


So less sophisticated than the 2nd Gen NSX (NC1) with it's twin front motors. It's cheaper to engineer/manufacture but not sure how I would feel about the car dragging the front brakes while cornering. And how that will translate to rotor/pad life given that the car will come standard with CCB's. Brake based torque vectoring might have been one of the reasons why the engineers decided to go with CCB's along with the weight savings vs going with traditional iron rotors.

Food for thought for those who might want to swap rotors/pads in the future. One more reason why I don't think that the E-Ray was designed as a track focused car.

Outsider's perspective since I am not interested in the E-Ray.

The last generation Ford Fiesta as well as the 10th generation Civic lineup used brake based front axle torque vectoring (FWD cars without LSD's).

RBK

I know all the threads already posted, so don't read any further.

I am looking at this from a different perspective. "The E-Ray will start at $104,295 for a coupe with standard carbon ceramic brakes, and the same wide body as the Z06, when deliveries start late this year.
I know many say they don't want an e-ray, but if you could get it by September vs waiting 2-4 years? GM plans on all electric by 2035 and young buyers are all for "green". This is the way to start the ball rolling.

Too bad we cannot wager, because I bet you many here and those , who never interact here, will jump on this car. The primary appeal of the Z06 is the flat plane, motor, its power and sound. How many here would spend the money asked for the Z06 if it did not have this motor? How about a car you drive year round, as fast as the Z06, and costing less, and not waiting? Many here never see a race track. Their "excitement" comes from jumping off a stop light or moving on a freeway or highway.

I suspect many will find this difficult to resist. Some of us have no need or use for an e-ray. I have other cars and bought a Cadillac CTS 5 Black wing to hold me over for the Z06. I track a bit and have other cars to drive, including a C8. Bu what about the guys who use the car in snow and/or daily drivers? I think, if GM can get the e-ray out fast enough, we may all be surprised. We shall see soon enough.

I expect the usual suspects and criticisms. Trolling, repetitive, irrelevant, superfluous, etc. We can still enjoy an opinion so have at it.

capevettes

Of course there is some merit to what you're saying. The E-Ray is another option for those that have interest in hybrid/electric Corvettes. Personally, my interest still lies in the sound and feel that the Z06 provides.
The problem is supply issues. They can't keep trotting out new variants if they can't meet the demand.

Mr. Gizmo

It's possible the long wait/order time for the c8z06 is due to development/production problems with the flat plane crank.

Seems like the e-ray got out the door a lot quicker then expected. Maybe to divert attention away from the z and easier to get to production.

i would prefer to have the c8z. Very special like the c4zr1

Larry M

#1 Not less expensive enough. I’ll take a Z06 without a second thought
#2 Do we know the MPG yet? C&D article said slightly better than the Stingray and that doesn’t impress me. Call me when we’re talking 40+++. I already hit 30mpg in my C7 Z06 on a long road trip
#3 & 4 are very nice. Combine that with the inability to get a Z06 and it’s on my short list
#5 & 10 is equal to the Z, so not a benefit over the Z
#6 I’ve never seen more weight as a benefit
#7 What does this even mean? Is some Gen Z person going to give me a high 5 at the coffee shop?
#8 & 11 don’t sound like noticeable differences to me
#9 Oh really? Let me know when I can get one…if you’re right and availability is abundant, is that saying something
#12 AFM and Start-Stop…ummm, people typically hate those…Lane departure, who cares
#13 Cacti is hideous
#14 Unique is sometimes not a good thing. I much prefer the Z wheels
#15 As is any new model

Not trying to crap on your list, but it’s quite a bit of a reach. The ERay is a cool option and something I’m considering because of the AWD (easier to mash the gas around town without losing it), same body as Z, and I can drive it in Nov/Dec/March with the all season tires, street performance

Reasons why I’m on the fence
#1 Can GM get it right on its 1st Corvette? I’m not impressed with GM quality and more specifically their horrendous service
#2 I hate the exhaust setup, I wish they did the center setup
#3 It’s not a Z06 or ZR1
#4 No FPC…a detuned FPC would have been awesome

RapidC84B

I think there's a big difference between being able to survive a trackday driving by the average owner in HPDE1 vs. someone experienced buying one of these cars to track. Track focused folks are chuckling (maybe crying) at how fat these cars have gotten. The car is 1,000 lbs heavier than a C5Z or C6Z with headers. The car will be absolute hell on consumables... I'd wager it destroys a set of tires and brake pads every weekend. So while it'll stay cool and make it through the weekend, the running costs will be silly.

3D-Aircrew

In the snow!

cryptonic

The E Ray will shorten the line for the Z06 as will the expected drop out rate for a medley of reasons.

timmbo

All the Eray fans will lose their boner when in a couple years they electrify the Z06 as an option. If you think GM is going to use this electrification only with the SR you are sadly mistaken. When it's available I will happily move up from my C8 Z06 to the new C8 E-Z06! Talk about an affordable bad *** machine!!

Krusty84

The solid coloring on the E-Ray looks gorgeous. You can actually see the body design without all those different color trim pieces. Makes it actually look like an exotic car.

Racer X

It is a false premise to think you could get on an eRay list now and get it any faster than a Z06. Do you think they will just be sitting on the lots? I don't.

JVi

That will be the "LT7" which is a twin turbo LT6 plus electric drive motors.
Easily over $200k.
That will have the meatloaf.

MDawg

I think the Z06 and Eray are guinea pigs for the halo car. My plan is to keep my Z06 and buy the ZR1/Zora (whatever the halo car is). I think GM has a really good strategy going.

-ZEEOHSIX-

I'm extremely partial to the E-Ray but, anyone who has ever seen me post would know that already. It ticks basically every box I have when it comes to wanting a C8. While the LT6 is a really nice engine, the Z06 is still RWD and the immediacy of the E-Ray's AWD and torque sounds far more appealing. I have repeatedly said that I'm done with front-engine, rear-wheel drive cars and if you gave me the choice, everything from here on would be AWD. Knowing that you can boost the LT2 now, changes my perspective on the car quite a bit. While I don't think it would ever be as fast as my current car, it would surely be a blast to drive.

RapidC84B

Will be interesting to see what comes next... a single halo Corvette w/ TT and eAWD or two separate cars i.e. a ZR1 TT and then Zora halo car w/ eAWD added.

RapidC84B

No... the ERay is on schedule and the Z06 is effectively 2 years behind. We were supposed to have the Z06 as a MY22 car in the 2nd half of calendar year 2021. Can't delay the entire Corvette program because one project (Z06) is delayed.

range96

So far we're seeing the model progression as the original leaked info a while ago.
I also think the Z06 production numbers are kept artificially low per a very high up management edict.