SD1

I was being facetious. I am SHOCKED that GM would compromise the warranty on their halo car to thwart flipping. Just make the car and let the market take care of itself.

Once again, this is not a SUPPLY issue, its a DEMAND issue. If people are willing to pay huge premiums for the car who cares?

I am on a list and think I will be lucky to get one next year, but I sure don't want GM telling me if or when I can resell it. I plan to keep it for a bit, but the reality is I never know. Sometimes I hang on to them, but sometimes its not the best fit. Why should I suffer for someone else's benefit? Ridiculous.

And bottom line, you are jerking around hardcore Chevy customers whether they are the original purchaser or next owners who again, may well not know about the restrictions.

JABCAT

If this were true (which it's not), GM would stop all these dealers from adding exorbitant ADMs, skipping people who have put down deposits years ago, and changing the price on sold orders when the customer's vehicle arrives.

Higgs Boson

Without reading the franchise sales and service agreement between chevrolet and their dealers it's hard to say for sure they should "stop the dealers from xxx." There is more than likely specific language preventing the franchiser from limiting the franchisee in this way. Since both the dealer ADM and the flipper economy can be argued to "hurt the market" by screwing up the demand side chevy chooses to control the controllables and put the limitations in place they can.

Dealers are pretty independent businesses, they are not owned by GM. The warranty coverage, however, is owned by GM and that is where they are exercising control. I do think it's basically all they can do. So people love to say, but Ferrari sells only at MSRP. Well again, that's an Italian company with a completely different franchise agreement, customer demographic, etc. Ferrari dealers have their own tricks up their sleeves to maximize profit and force you to buy lower end cars you don't want to gain access to allocations that are sold at MSRP. I've never heard of a Chevy dealer requiring you to buy a Spark and a Malibu and agree to trade both back into the dealer at a significant loss so you can get your Corvette.

JockItch

”Good customers” to them aka MSRP dealers.

RJ-92

Did I click on the wrong thread? I thought this was about Stradman oil/trans leak, not the 428663105 thread on warranties.

jimmyb

I think your estimate on the # of "warranty/flipping" threads may be a little low...

Red Mist Rulz

Umm, those are two totally different issues. And GM has the ability to set whatever warranty terms it wants. It doesn't have the legal ability to control dealer pricing.

SwanSongZ

GM has the ability to steer allocations. And in the case of Ford with the Ford GT, Ford even selected the final customers/buyers. So I don't buy the excuse that "it's out of GM's hands" to deal with this ADM BS.

Red Mist Rulz

GM can steer allocations, UNLESS it's singling out a specific dealer or obviously done in retaliation for pricing. GM would lose that lawsuit every day of the week. State legislatures have passed laws that dramatically favor dealers over manufacturers. You don't have to buy it, but before you close your mind do a little research into NADA lobbying and campaign contributions, and the state laws they've gotten passed.

Ford has even backed away from trying to set prices on electric vehicles, and they set up an entirely separate business unit, with new franchise agreements, to get around state laws.

Dominic Sorresso

very accurate description of franchise do’s and don’ts. State NADA chapters very strong lobby.

SwanSongZ

I didn't say to "single out" specific dealers. But they can build a system/rules to steer virtually all allocations towards MSRP dealers without singling out specific dealers. I know allocations are already done by volume of past sales, but they can take it a step further.

OnPoint

Has Stradman come out and said what actually happened to his car?

I.e. what failed?

smithers

Nope not as of his latest video that came out a day or two ago

SwanSongZ

So watching Streetspeed's latest video, it appears that doing doughnuts upsets the DCT (it threw a code in his car each time he did doughnuts).

Probably exactly what Stradman did as well to upset the DCT- knowing how these two low-rent tacky clowns act with their dumb antics.

undecided1965

Theoretically you could have a similar maneuver during regular driving if you skid out of control or during some emergency avoidance situation.

SwanSongZ

That would only be for a second, versus 5,10, 20, 30+ seconds of sustained doughnuts. Not surprised the car would at the very least throw a code in those instances.

DaveFerrari458

If true, that's going to really hurt and upset the jealous haters on here lol. They're only here in the C8 section to pounce on any negative news whether fake or real.

SharkDiverZ06

Thanks for taking one for the team!

smithers

He put up a new video a little bit ago, the car is back and he says it was just the transmission pan gasket failed.

john m

Funny, he left out the part about the gasket failing because there was a giant dent in the pan…. Wonder how that got there???