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Old 08-09-2022, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NakedDave
So that’s a “yes” it is an option? 🤪
He was asking if the N26 wheel, Sueded microfiber wrapped without carbon Fibre was available on a 3LZ which it is NOT.
Optional wheel on the 3LZ is the N2Z Carbon Fiber sueded microfiber wrapped wheel.
Old 08-10-2022, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Glennm27
He was asking if the N26 wheel, Sueded microfiber wrapped without carbon Fibre was available on a 3LZ which it is NOT.
Optional wheel on the 3LZ is the N2Z Carbon Fiber sueded microfiber wrapped wheel.
Okay, thank you for the clear answer.
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Originally Posted by Tactical-Speed
3LZ isn't worth it IMO. I'm doing 2LZ
You do realize that if you option GT2 seats on your 2LZ, the cost difference between your 2LZ and the 3LZ is $3k, right?

On a car you are already over 6 figures on, why would you not pay just 3k extra for:

Leather throughout
Napa leather on seats
Carbon Fiber Steering Wheel w/leather horn pad
Carbon Fiber Paddles
Suede Upper interior trim
Ability to choose dipped interior option (if that's your thing)
Better resale value.

They are raping you at 2LZ. To be clear, I am getting 1LZ because I don't care about anything 2LZ or 3LZ offers but if I was considering 2LZ, there is no reason to not just go 3LZ for $3k more on a car that's costing you close to or over $140k

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Old 08-10-2022, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by C8UR911
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They are rapping you at 2LZ. To be clear, I am getting 1LZ because I don't care about anything 2LZ or 3LZ offers but if I was considering 2LZ, there is no reason to not just go 3LZ for $3k more on a car that's costing you close to or over $140k
I agree with this. 1LZ, add the IOT option for $1795 and maybe Comp seats for $995. The rest of what’s in 2LZ is useless to me.
Old 08-15-2022, 09:25 AM
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Do I need to get 3LZ if I want solid black interior with red stitching? I hate the look of carbon fiber and don't want the 3LZ package because of that. I couldn't find a way to add red stitching in the Visualizer on any config.
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Originally Posted by bent98
Do I need to get 3LZ if I want solid black interior with red stitching? I hate the look of carbon fiber and don't want the 3LZ package because of that. I couldn't find a way to add red stitching in the Visualizer on any config.
I also want black interior with red stitching (currently have this on my C8). I will choose the 3LZ if this is the only way to get it, else 2LZ for me.
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Originally Posted by NEVERL8
I also want black interior with red stitching (currently have this on my C8). I will choose the 3LZ if this is the only way to get it, else 2LZ for me.
how did you get it in your c8?
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Originally Posted by bent98
Do I need to get 3LZ if I want solid black interior with red stitching? I hate the look of carbon fiber and don't want the 3LZ package because of that. I couldn't find a way to add red stitching in the Visualizer on any config.
3LZ is the only way to get colored stitch options.
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Originally Posted by C8UR911
For all concerned with sun damage to leather on dash, YOu should ABSOLUTELY get your front windshield tinted. Bonus tip: You can even go with an illegal tint (I've never had a single issue with police due to front windshield tint). It's a absolute MUST and the first thing I do to any car I drive.
The safety glass in the windshield already blocks most of the UV spectrum.
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Originally Posted by Cyclon36
3LZ is the only way to get colored stitch options.
Do it yourself with a dye pin.

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Originally Posted by C8UR911
You do realize that if you option GT2 seats on your 2LZ, the cost difference between your 2LZ and the 3LZ is $3k, right?

On a car you are already over 6 figures on, why would you not pay just 3k extra for:

Leather throughout
Napa leather on seats
Carbon Fiber Steering Wheel w/leather horn pad
Carbon Fiber Paddles
Suede Upper interior trim
Ability to choose dipped interior option (if that's your thing)
Better resale value.

They are raping you at 2LZ. To be clear, I am getting 1LZ because I don't care about anything 2LZ or 3LZ offers but if I was considering 2LZ, there is no reason to not just go 3LZ for $3k more on a car that's costing you close to or over $140k
Because I don't really care about all that stuff
Old 08-17-2022, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JockItch
I’m planning on ceramic tint, 20% on the sides and back interior window (or exterior if I go HTC), and either 70% or 55% on the windshield. Feeling brave and leaning 55%, you can tell unlike 70% which is barely noticeable, but you can still clearly see in… and more importantly out at night.
Is the 55% that much better on the windshield than 70% if the 70% film is good at UV blocking like 3M's Crystaline? The 70% looks like it provides about 90% of the benefits of the 50% film. https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00016683/
I haven't seen high VLT film in person but am considering this for Z06.
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Is the 55% that much better on the windshield than 70% if the 70% film is good at UV blocking like 3M's Crystaline? The 70% looks like it provides about 90% of the benefits of the 50% film. https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00016683/
I haven't seen high VLT film in person but am considering this for Z06.
I tint all my cars windshields and even in hot bright sunny texas 55% is too dark, you will get stopped for it and it sucks at night. 70% is a sweet spot but more importantly is the heat rejection number on the film (as opposed to light transmission). make sure you get 98% heat rejection, big noticeable difference from the normal 88%
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Old 08-18-2022, 05:00 PM
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If you have money always get anything you wonder if you want or not. If you don't have the money, it doesn't matter. You always regret less what you do than what you don't (always wondering).t
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This a dumb question...

So 3LZ
Leather throughout
Suede Upper interior trim

What are the doors and panels trimmed with in 2LZ if not leather? And what is the 2LZ upper trim.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Jridden
This a dumb question...

So 3LZ
Leather throughout
Suede Upper interior trim

What are the doors and panels trimmed with in 2LZ if not leather? And what is the 2LZ upper trim.

Thanks
GM does not disclose what the soft touch materials are in the 1LT/1LZ/2LT/2LZ but they are likely TPU or vinyl. The upper trim is fabric. And there are still some areas that aren't leather on the 3LT/3LZ.
Having said that, the 1LT/1LZ/2LT/2LZ interiors aren't bad. Its just that the 3LT/3LZ are nicer if you prefer the materials.
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Old 08-23-2022, 01:22 PM
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Thanks for the RKCRLR.

I feel like I'll need the camera mirror and the rear cross traffic feature. I sat in the yellow show car at the dealer tour. I can't see around those flanks well. I also want GT2 seats so with the price difference between 2LZ and 3LZ I might as well get a 3LZ.

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Old 08-19-2023, 07:53 AM
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My biggest reason for not going 1LZ was the blind spot monitoring. After driving a car with that in significant traffic everyday I didn’t want to lose that option.. Once you commit the money to 2LZ
the Front Lift, GT2 seats, and front camera where very important to me. When you are already spending all that money I went 3LZ.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JockItch
What do you recommend treating the leather with in the problem areas like the dash then for those of us keeping the car long term? I was under the impression that those conditioners were a waste due to the polymer coating they treat the leather with.

My car will be garage parked and I also plan to ceramic tint the windshield.
I've been following this subject for some time and while exposure to sun/heat may contribute to 3LT dash delamination issues many 3LTs that reside in cooler northern states and garage queens that have had little or no exposure to sun have had shrinking/recedingdash issues and many 3LTs that reside in FLA, TX, AZ etc and have had almost constant exposure to sun and heat have not. GM has stated it's more an inconsistency in materials and/or execution that causes some C6s, C7s, and even C8s 3LTs to delaminate/crack. In late 2019 (last year of the C7) GM started using more staples and improved adhesives on the 3LT dashes however that didn't seem to cure the problem as some dashed still delaminated, some even more than once.
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Originally Posted by C8Z06frustrated
My biggest reason for not going 1LZ was the blind spot monitoring. After driving a car with that in significant traffic everyday I didn’t want to lose that option.. Once you commit the money to 2LZ
the Front Lift, GT2 seats, and front camera where very important to me. When you are already spending all that money I went 3LZ.
Unfortunately this is the marketing trap that GM created and I refuse to participate in this nickel and diming/price-gouging of customers. The fact that a car over $100k doesn't have blind spot monitoring (a safety feature, not even a luxury) standard is infuriating, because it was done on purpose to force people into 2LZ+.

I went 1LZ for that reason, and between a rear camera mirror that is standard with my HTC build (but also they sell nice aftermarket ones even if you don't have an HTC) and those small stick-on blind spot mirrors you stick on top of your existing side mirrors, should have full visibility.


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