jimmyb

Searching?
You're joking, right.
NO ONE has to search for price whining. It's in practically every thread.
And give me a link to a thread where I "badgered" someone...I assume you know what "badgering" means?

PS. There's this handy feature called "Ignore". Feel free to put me on your "Ignore" list since I clearly bother you and frankly, you bother me with all your insults and histrionics.
PPS. As far as your posting history, I was just curious who woke you up...I've never seen anyone go from 20 posts in 15 years to 400+ posts in 8 months...and all of them trolling.

Savoy2001

I'm not comparing the "its a bargain factor" compared to it's competitors. I'm saying the premise of inflation is the reason for such a high price on the z06 and when optioned is bullshit. Pure and simple. If inflation is killing GM with the z06 then it should hit them equally as hard on the stingray. Should it not? So if inflation is such a problem this year then the stingray should be alot more money as well. This isn't a difficult concept. Obviously when you are looking for a way to spin it in your favor I guess it gets difficult then ehh?

AustinVetter

you, in all your brilliance, just proved my point better than I could have. For that, thank you!!

jimmyb

^^^
Whatever.

jimmyb

I don't think the Z06 price was inflation driven. I think they priced the Stingray TOO low, and decided not to make the same mistake twice.
Once the price of the Stingray was announced and cars were sold, GM couldn't just randomly raise the price by $10K. You think you're seeing whining now? Let GM take a $10K increase on the Stingray...this place would blow up.

Redc8z06

GM did raise the price of the stingray this year $3,300. "the base 2023 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray gets a $1,000 price increase for the new model year,"
"the base price of every 2023 C8 Corvette Stingray has increased by $2300 as of June 13"

Trackaholic

With waiting lists years long and $50,000 or more ADM, seems like GM should raise the price another $20,000. Knock down those waiting lists a bit.

Maybe the Z06 is under-priced?

-T

Redc8z06

The Z06 is not under priced we as buyers are just out of control we created this shark feeding frenzy no matter what it's still a mass production car. We created these large wait lists far exceeding what GM can build which is fed by supply shortages on top of which we have people willing to pay $30-$50k over MSRP.

Adding another $20,000 does nothing but knock out true corvette owners who want one for what it is not looking to make a quick buck.

If in the near future GM can get all the supply it needs to build all the Corvettes they are capable of building you will quickly see Stingray saturation happen and Z06 prices flatting out.

Either that or the economy will go totally into the toilet and nobody can afford one.

corvetteflier

[QUOTE=jimmyb;1605506846]Because other than the VERY early C7 Z06 buyers, practically EVERYONE got a DISCOUNT on the C7 Z06....

You can't use just inflation to compare. As noted above, ADM will account for ~ 20-25% of the total price of a Z, unless you are content to wait for years, which it never has in the C6/7 generations. Yeah, a few are signed up and will get their car in under 12 months at MSRP. The vast majority won't. $30 K over MSRP for a C8 Stingray is a joke. But a joke that many didn't laugh at. Now try $60 K.

jimmyb

^^^
See my post #105.
I DON'T think this is inflation driven

PurpleLion

I read on the other forum that GM currently has two years of orders assuming full production. So, perhaps, they just increased pricing to be more in line with their expected ability to deliver the car.

At one point Tadge said that there were ongoing pricing discussions and that he was hopeful that the Z06 price would stay within expectations, but he was not sure that his contingent would win the argument. I refuse to pay over $150K for a car, but my initial build would have been over that. However, with careful choices I have been able to spec a 2LZ Coupe Z07 with all of the performance goodies that I want that will be less than $150K OTD.

I suppose that I could worry about losing money due to depreciation, etc. but I am too old and this will be my last car. I think that if you get the LT6 and the Z07 and can swing the price, cool beans - best car ever.

Tactical-Speed

Yea, they priced what is supposed to be America's affordable sport car too low LMAO GTFO

Racer X

You guys are complaining the gap is too big between the base and the Z06. That would solve that complaint. Or are just complaining to complain?

How does the performance compare to a current Porsche at the same price? Audi? Lamborghini? Ferrari? Any mid-engine sports car at the same price (base or Z06)?

Savoy2001

No the price of the base car is fine. It’s the z06 that’sa little too high. What hard to understand about that? You wanna pay more fine. Make a donation to gm maybe they’ll take it. Rest of us would like it if it were a little cheaper.

As for performance. We really don’t know. Gm won’t release any info outside of a 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. The z was always a performance bang for the buck winner compared to its rivals. This isn’t anything new. A very large price hike it’s what’s new. So ya maybe it’s still cheaper than its peers But it was always cheaper than that compared to its peers. I would rather pay less not more. You want to pay more Go ahead. I would prefer not too.

AustinVetter

Seeing some of these comments is like watching The Twilight Zone. You can't make this stuff up... unfortunately. Like Jonathan Gruber said...

jimmyb

You and AustinVetter should go back to business school...or go for the first time. If you two don't think that GM financial people were looking at the last 3 years of Stingray sales, Stingray MARK-UPS from dealers, and second owner used prices paid in helping formulate the C8 Z06 pricing, then you guys just don't understand the auto business, or any other business for that matter.

jimmyb

OK. Then, who, in YOUR opinion, are the Z06's "rivals"?
And how do they compare, price wise, to the Z06's price?
Obviously, NOTHING from Ferrari/McLaren/Lamborghini because of huge price disparity. So, if you just go base MSRP, then the Z06's "rivals" are the Porsche 911 Carrera (379HP, $106,000) and the Porsche 718 GT4 (414HP, $106,500). Since we already know that an FE4 Stingray is 1.3 seconds FASTER than the 718 GT4 in Car and Driver Lightning Lap, in spite of the C8 being on Pilot Sport 4S tires verses the GT4 being on Cup 2's, where should we go for "rivals".
To get an actual "performance" rival, you have to jump up to a 911 GT3 (502 HP, $169,700) and even that might not do it, so maybe you have to go to a 911 GT3RS, and now you're more than likely at $200K base MSRP

jimmyb

They're just like the guys that whined about the C6 ZR1 price way back when and then the C7 ZR1 price 3 years ago. They were never going to buy the car in the first place, just needing a little attention from people they don't know on the internet...
And they STILL don't understand how the C8 Z06 can be $108,995
Hint for them: Because that's where GM priced it.

jimmyb

Well, they did price it too low. If the C8 had come out at $69,995 do YOU think GM would have lost even ONE sale??? I'll help...highly doubtful they would have lost one sale. So, if increasing the price by $10K has no effect, then you priced it too low on the front end. Of course, we'll never actually KNOW, but I'd bet MY C8 that if GM had the initial C8 Stingray pricing to do over again, it would NOT have been $59,995.
And link me to the marketing campaign for the C8, declaring it "America's affordable sports car"...
I'll wait for that one since YOU seem to think this is 1994.

AustinVetter

Says the person who thinks we aren't GM's customers.... You've been "schooled" so many times in the past month by so many members they should start charging you.