ZO6 delayed expect 2023 January deliveries
05-25-2022, 05:57 PM
#82
I'm low on a list, but just got a 2022 Z51... love the car.... frankly, I'm in no rush.... I'd guess mid-year 2023 before any cars get delivered, and I think that's probably optimistic
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05-26-2022, 12:16 AM
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I don't think HorsePowerAddicts is active on CF anymore. I wonder why. I think he focuses now on click counts.
It looks like he still has his C7 ZR1, so at least he got something right!
It looks like he still has his C7 ZR1, so at least he got something right!
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05-29-2022, 12:06 AM
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05-29-2022, 09:59 AM
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If I knew it was going to be this late I would have bought a 2020/2021 Stingray.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
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05-29-2022, 12:24 PM
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If I knew it was going to be this late I would have bought a 2020/2021 Stingray.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
I do however have a different take based on the reality of what caused your frustrations and perhaps GM's responsibility. Facts are facts.
I am a converted Ford and Honda guy, not a big fan of GM.
In the summer of 2019 I had to make the same decision that you did. When I heard that the new Corvette was going to be mid-engine, it perked my interest. I was watching the introduction of the car and got a call from my daughter, saying we need to buy this car. You see my daughter, my son and I have raced for 25 years both open wheel and closed, all with the engines being behind the driver.
Soon after, we put our non-refundable deposit down, and had our C8 in a year. That in spite of a strike and heavy demand for the car. We bought the car for MSRP with some options for $64,500.
At that point in time we weren't even thinking of buying a Z06. After driving the C8 for 2 months I got on several lists for a Z06, thinking it might be a possibility.
As you noted GM was not able to start production of the Z06 in 2021 and in fact hopefully it will happen late this summer.
So let's look at why. It all started with that strike. Then came the virus that shut down the plant several times. Then came the tornado and finally parts shortages. All of these contributed to the delay of the the Z06.
So what could have GM differently? Maybe to some degree they could have avoided the strike. I doubt that very much under the circumstances.
Next the Virus. Ask yourself what they could have done to avoid that?
Then the tornado. To my knowledge, that has never happened in GM's history.
Ok, finally the parts shortages from it's 400+ vendors. To my knowledge, no car manufacturer has been immune from that. During all this time GM has made the Corvette a top priority, plant staying open, when other model plants were being closed.
So my question to you, is how could have GM avoided these obstacles?
Next question, is what car manufacturer was immune from these problems?
What other car could you have purchased for $64,500 with it's performance, that now sells for $20,000 over MSRP.
Two months ago, we sold ours for $85,000 as we will be getting a first months allocation for Z06. Not bad if the Z is $90,000 or for that matter $100,000.
So you have a choice, assuming you have an allocation for a Z at MSRP. Buy the car after your long wait, knowing it's probably worth at least $30,000 more than MSRP or look to buying some other car for the same or less performance, but at a much higher price. Maybe a NSX? Remember I was an old Honda guy. $179,000+?
If your out at $87,000, then you are most likely out period There will be thousands of people willing to take your place. Many are not big GM fans. But they know a bargain when they see it. There are so few, if any choices out there, but then there is that wait once again. Life is to short.
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05-30-2022, 08:02 AM
#88
You have an interesting take and frustration is something we all have had to deal with in the past few years.
I do however have a different take based on the reality of what caused your frustrations and perhaps GM's responsibility. Facts are facts.
I am a converted Ford and Honda guy, not a big fan of GM.
In the summer of 2019 I had to make the same decision that you did. When I heard that the new Corvette was going to be mid-engine, it perked my interest. I was watching the introduction of the car and got a call from my daughter, saying we need to buy this car. You see my daughter, my son and I have raced for 25 years both open wheel and closed, all with the engines being behind the driver.
Soon after, we put our non-refundable deposit down, and had our C8 in a year. That in spite of a strike and heavy demand for the car. We bought the car for MSRP with some options for $64,500.
At that point in time we weren't even thinking of buying a Z06. After driving the C8 for 2 months I got on several lists for a Z06, thinking it might be a possibility.
As you noted GM was not able to start production of the Z06 in 2021 and in fact hopefully it will happen late this summer.
So let's look at why. It all started with that strike. Then came the virus that shut down the plant several times. Then came the tornado and finally parts shortages. All of these contributed to the delay of the the Z06.
So what could have GM differently? Maybe to some degree they could have avoided the strike. I doubt that very much under the circumstances.
Next the Virus. Ask yourself what they could have done to avoid that?
Then the tornado. To my knowledge, that has never happened in GM's history.
Ok, finally the parts shortages from it's 400+ vendors. To my knowledge, no car manufacturer has been immune from that. During all this time GM has made the Corvette a top priority, plant staying open, when other model plants were being closed.
So my question to you, is how could have GM avoided these obstacles?
Next question, is what car manufacturer was immune from these problems?
What other car could you have purchased for $64,500 with it's performance, that now sells for $20,000 over MSRP.
Two months ago, we sold ours for $85,000 as we will be getting a first months allocation for Z06. Not bad if the Z is $90,000 or for that matter $100,000.
So you have a choice, assuming you have an allocation for a Z at MSRP. Buy the car after your long wait, knowing it's probably worth at least $30,000 more than MSRP or look to buying some other car for the same or less performance, but at a much higher price. Maybe a NSX? Remember I was an old Honda guy. $179,000+?
If your out at $87,000, then you are most likely out period There will be thousands of people willing to take your place. Many are not big GM fans. But they know a bargain when they see it. There are so few, if any choices out there, but then there is that wait once again. Life is to short.
I do however have a different take based on the reality of what caused your frustrations and perhaps GM's responsibility. Facts are facts.
I am a converted Ford and Honda guy, not a big fan of GM.
In the summer of 2019 I had to make the same decision that you did. When I heard that the new Corvette was going to be mid-engine, it perked my interest. I was watching the introduction of the car and got a call from my daughter, saying we need to buy this car. You see my daughter, my son and I have raced for 25 years both open wheel and closed, all with the engines being behind the driver.
Soon after, we put our non-refundable deposit down, and had our C8 in a year. That in spite of a strike and heavy demand for the car. We bought the car for MSRP with some options for $64,500.
At that point in time we weren't even thinking of buying a Z06. After driving the C8 for 2 months I got on several lists for a Z06, thinking it might be a possibility.
As you noted GM was not able to start production of the Z06 in 2021 and in fact hopefully it will happen late this summer.
So let's look at why. It all started with that strike. Then came the virus that shut down the plant several times. Then came the tornado and finally parts shortages. All of these contributed to the delay of the the Z06.
So what could have GM differently? Maybe to some degree they could have avoided the strike. I doubt that very much under the circumstances.
Next the Virus. Ask yourself what they could have done to avoid that?
Then the tornado. To my knowledge, that has never happened in GM's history.
Ok, finally the parts shortages from it's 400+ vendors. To my knowledge, no car manufacturer has been immune from that. During all this time GM has made the Corvette a top priority, plant staying open, when other model plants were being closed.
So my question to you, is how could have GM avoided these obstacles?
Next question, is what car manufacturer was immune from these problems?
What other car could you have purchased for $64,500 with it's performance, that now sells for $20,000 over MSRP.
Two months ago, we sold ours for $85,000 as we will be getting a first months allocation for Z06. Not bad if the Z is $90,000 or for that matter $100,000.
So you have a choice, assuming you have an allocation for a Z at MSRP. Buy the car after your long wait, knowing it's probably worth at least $30,000 more than MSRP or look to buying some other car for the same or less performance, but at a much higher price. Maybe a NSX? Remember I was an old Honda guy. $179,000+?
If your out at $87,000, then you are most likely out period There will be thousands of people willing to take your place. Many are not big GM fans. But they know a bargain when they see it. There are so few, if any choices out there, but then there is that wait once again. Life is to short.
05-30-2022, 08:12 PM
#89
So you have a choice, assuming you have an allocation for a Z at MSRP. Buy the car after your long wait, knowing it's probably worth at least $30,000 more than MSRP or look to buying some other car for the same or less performance, but at a much higher price. Maybe a NSX? Remember I was an old Honda guy. $179,000+?
If your out at $87,000, then you are most likely out period There will be thousands of people willing to take your place. Many are not big GM fans. But they know a bargain when they see it. There are so few, if any choices out there, but then there is that wait once again. Life is to short.
If your out at $87,000, then you are most likely out period There will be thousands of people willing to take your place. Many are not big GM fans. But they know a bargain when they see it. There are so few, if any choices out there, but then there is that wait once again. Life is to short.
If I was spending $200K plus for a sports car, I am not buying an Acura. I am going to spend another $80K and now Im looking at Ferrari or a Huracan..
If they were priced the same as C8s, they still wouldn't sell them. They can't compete with the corvette name/brand. Probably the reason they produce so few of them. There is no demand for them. I seen a '22 listed for $299K.. He will be sitting on that price tag for the rest of his life.
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05-30-2022, 08:14 PM
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If I knew it was going to be this late I would have bought a 2020/2021 Stingray.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
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05-30-2022, 08:48 PM
#91
Although to be fair, i had a feeling this z06 will take forever, even me being 300's on MM list.
Put myself on the SR list. Hopefully i'd be driving mine exactly one year from now. Already moved up like 150 spots since getting on the list.
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05-30-2022, 09:56 PM
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When you think of sports cars an Acura NSX isn't even in the conversation. People aren't buying them, period. Dozens for sale for $200K plus.. lol
If I was spending $200K plus for a sports car, I am not buying an Acura. I am going to spend another $80K and now Im looking at Ferrari or a Huracan..
If they were priced the same as C8s, they still wouldn't sell them. They can't compete with the corvette name/brand. Probably the reason they produce so few of them. There is no demand for them. I seen a '22 listed for $299K.. He will be sitting on that price tag for the rest of his life.
If I was spending $200K plus for a sports car, I am not buying an Acura. I am going to spend another $80K and now Im looking at Ferrari or a Huracan..
If they were priced the same as C8s, they still wouldn't sell them. They can't compete with the corvette name/brand. Probably the reason they produce so few of them. There is no demand for them. I seen a '22 listed for $299K.. He will be sitting on that price tag for the rest of his life.
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05-30-2022, 11:23 PM
#93
Drifting
I've got a number on the Ciocca list that's likely a first-year car but at this point I'm seriously considering abandoning this nonsense and buying an exotic. This is beyond ridiculous. There's no excuse for this nonsense from GM. Unacceptable. I would say unbelievable, but it is GM so this is par for the course with these clowns.
05-30-2022, 11:23 PM
#94
Drifting
I agree with you on the NSX. It along with many others are over priced now that the Z is coming out. Just wanted to point that out as the C8 Z is a bargain compared other cars If he won't pay over +$87,000, he sure isn't going to pay $179,000 for one of it's competitors cars.
05-30-2022, 11:24 PM
#95
Drifting
When you think of sports cars an Acura NSX isn't even in the conversation. People aren't buying them, period. Dozens for sale for $200K plus.. lol
If I was spending $200K plus for a sports car, I am not buying an Acura. I am going to spend another $80K and now Im looking at Ferrari or a Huracan..
If they were priced the same as C8s, they still wouldn't sell them. They can't compete with the corvette name/brand. Probably the reason they produce so few of them. There is no demand for them. I seen a '22 listed for $299K.. He will be sitting on that price tag for the rest of his life.
If I was spending $200K plus for a sports car, I am not buying an Acura. I am going to spend another $80K and now Im looking at Ferrari or a Huracan..
If they were priced the same as C8s, they still wouldn't sell them. They can't compete with the corvette name/brand. Probably the reason they produce so few of them. There is no demand for them. I seen a '22 listed for $299K.. He will be sitting on that price tag for the rest of his life.
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05-30-2022, 11:33 PM
#96
I've got a number on the Ciocca list that's likely a first-year car but at this point I'm seriously considering abandoning this nonsense and buying an exotic. This is beyond ridiculous. There's no excuse for this nonsense from GM. Unacceptable. I would say unbelievable, but it is GM so this is par for the course with these clowns.
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05-31-2022, 09:06 AM
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05-31-2022, 09:21 AM
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05-31-2022, 10:11 AM
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05-31-2022, 04:06 PM
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If I knew it was going to be this late I would have bought a 2020/2021 Stingray.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
My expectation was that the C8Z was going to be a 2021 (model year 2) car like the past two generations. We are 2+ years delayed now, IMO.
If the car is more than 85k or 87k, I'm out. It's basically a Stingray with an exotic motor, not much more than that. Zero lightweighting which was a huge disappointment to me. A better motor alone is not worth paying $25k+ over the base C8 Stingray, IMO.
Friendly reminder, this forum needs a downvote button for posts.
Would remove a lot of negativity and public fights if we could just downvote and move on to the next post.
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