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Old 05-02-2022, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SL41
with quarter mile time of 11.2 @ 122mph for the c8z51, i am a little surprise z06 with 175 more horsepower it was only able to run 0.6 sec faster / 9 miles faster in trap speed. perhaps traction has something to do with this.
You do realize a Chiron with 1500 (aka 1000hp more than a C8 Z51) is only 1.3 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile. It doesn't scale linearly.

Trapping 130+ in the 1/4 is a fast car no matter what. Especially N/A.
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131mph trap speed is very respectable for a naturally aspirated car. Ferrari 812, Lamborghini Aventador and Huracan are the only current cars that trap higher. I believe you can no longer buy the 812 or Aventador new. I’ve got my name down with Mike Furman for the Z06 and a deposit on the Huracan Tecnica. I wonder which call I get first.
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Old 05-02-2022, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by range96
Base model will not trap better than Z07 because of tires. If you put sticky tires on them, yes.
You’re assuming traction is an issue, do you think launch control setting will be different on the Z07 vs base?

Originally Posted by SL41
really?
You answered his question with a question? I’ll add the Z07 has more aero drag than C8 and more rolling resistance along with more weight to offset the hp increase.
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:33 PM
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So we are at the point were 10.6 seconds and 131 mph is now substandard. Wow. Some of Ya'll in this section seriously lack perspective, so let me help abit. For the record, although yes I do love the Corvette I am first and foremost a car lover and appreciate all brands. If all you are after is a 1/4 time just buy a Tesla Plaid and be done with it....until the next car that comes out beats those numbers as well.

So some of you are disappointed with the numbers so lets see how it stacks up against some legendary and in some cases million dollar hyper cars from the past. So basically as fast as a Ferrari Enzo...but much quicker and about 3.5 million dollars LESS expensive. Pretty decent bargain in terms of performance per dollar.

Ferrari 512TR
0-60 = 4.6
1/4 mile: 12.7 @ 116mph

Ferrari F40
0-60 = 3.8s
1/4 mile = 11.8 @ 124mph

Ferrari F50
0-60 = 3.6s
1/4 mile = 12.0 @ 126mph

Ferrari Enzo
0-60 = 3.5s
1/4 mile = 11.6 @ 132mph

Ferrari 458 Speciale
0-60 = 2.8
1/4 mile = 11.0 @ 135
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro-C5
So we are at the point were 10.6 seconds and 131 mph is now substandard. Wow. Some of Ya'll in this section seriously lack perspective, so let me help abit. For the record, although yes I do love the Corvette I am first and foremost a car lover and appreciate all brands. If all you are after is a 1/4 time just buy a Tesla Plaid and be done with it....until the next car that comes out beats those numbers as well.

So some of you are disappointed with the numbers so lets see how it stacks up against some legendary and in some cases million dollar hyper cars from the past. So basically as fast as a Ferrari Enzo...but much quicker and about 3.5 million dollars LESS expensive. Pretty decent bargain in terms of performance per dollar.

Ferrari 512TR
0-60 = 4.6
1/4 mile: 12.7 @ 116mph

Ferrari F40
0-60 = 3.8s
1/4 mile = 11.8 @ 124mph

Ferrari F50
0-60 = 3.6s
1/4 mile = 12.0 @ 126mph

Ferrari Enzo
0-60 = 3.5s
1/4 mile = 11.6 @ 132mph

Ferrari 458 Speciale
0-60 = 2.8
1/4 mile = 11.0 @ 135
Most are magazine bench racing cars & coffee braggarts with no experience on any kind of track. I posted a poll once about how many members had even gone down a drag strip at a test and tune night and the number was shockingly low… an order of magnitude less have done a trackday and less timetrials or actual competition.

So all they know how to do is compare to a fast time of a car they saw on YouTube.
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:10 PM
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I'm happy with that.
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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
Most are magazine bench racing cars & coffee braggarts with no experience on any kind of track. I posted a poll once about how many members had even gone down a drag strip at a test and tune night and the number was shockingly low… an order of magnitude less have done a trackday and less timetrials or actual competition.

So all they know how to do is compare to a fast time of a car they saw on YouTube.
I think another thing to consider is how easy it is to get the car up to speed and/or around the track and how skilled the driver is. For example I have had several highly modified Corvettes that I raced with one being a 900hp C5 Z06 that was basically just a track car...but it took every once of concentration or I was going to be off in the weeds somewhere. Even though I did track days and Auto-X for almost 20 years I admittedly was never good enough of a driver to get the full potential out of that particular C5 or even my Modified C7. the point I am trying to make is we obsess over these numbers like they actually mean something in the real world. If the car does 6:59 at the Ring that is some how a much superior car that does it in 7:05....lets be honest for a minute. Lets just take the GT2Rs at a 6:46 ring time. Who here really thinks they could duplicate that time? Seriously? I know there is no way in hell my ***** nor skill are big enough to pull it off. There is probably not one person on this entire forum that could get the GT2 under 7mins if we are going to be really honest.

Whatever the actual numbers are going to be in the real world lets all just admit that the Z06 is still punching way above its weight class.
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
You’re assuming traction is an issue, do you think launch control setting will be different on the Z07 vs base?
Traction is an issue. Better tires result better times. That is just how it is.
GM is advertising 131 mph with the Z07 package and the base would be faster? Why wouldn't GM advertise the base number instead? Because it is slower. The same traction management software WILL result in faster times with stickier tires.
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Old 05-03-2022, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SL41
with quarter mile time of 11.2 @ 122mph for the c8z51, i am a little surprise z06 with 175 more horsepower it was only able to run 0.6 sec faster / 9 miles faster in trap speed. perhaps traction has something to do with this.
Lack of torque will do that to ya. Moving the engine shaved a full second off the base car's time. If the same were true of the Z06 we'd have an official time in the 9's but the C8Z is nowhere close to that.

The real question will be road course times. For some reason I can't find a C8 among Car and Driver's Lightning Lap results, so trying to predict the C8Z's lap time is difficult. I sure hope that GM tested the C8Z against the C7 ZR1 at VIR and other major tracks to make sure it's faster.
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I'm really interested in how these numbers shake out. I organize this car event which has both a component with a high speed run on a airport runway, which is about 6100 feet long... as well as track time at Laguna Seca. The former is for our guests to experience higher speeds safely in their cars and get some adrenaline out, the later is to help them understand that a fast car in a straight line doesn't mean a fast car around a lap (especially if the driver software isn't programmed right )

As we will have Bugatti Chiron's and other very powerful cars there, we are wondering where to put the braking zone, probably somewhere around the half mile to leave a huge safety margin for braking... but by that point cars with 1500 hp may have reached the 200 mph mark!!. Looking at published speeds as we try to figure out where to put the braking marker, we realized just how nonlinear acceleration especially for turbo engine cars like that.

We will also have some very powerful EV sports cars like the Rimac attending.. and I'm frankly scared of how fast they will be going at the 0.5 mile mark from a standing start..

As posts without images or videos are worthless, Here is a link to last year's event where some very pretty cars showed up.


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This has been noted by several members in previous threads when these numbers were released months ago.

Originally Posted by Warp Ten
From a data perspective 0- The only thing that remains is what the C8 Z06 will do from a standing start. The 10.6 was from a rolling start...

Where did you you see the GM official released 1/4 mile time and trap speed was not a standing start?
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
I'm really interested in how these numbers shake out. I organize this car event which has both a component with a high speed run on a airport runway, which is about 6100 feet long... as well as track time at Laguna Seca. The former is for our guests to experience higher speeds safely in their cars and get some adrenaline out, the later is to help them understand that a fast car in a straight line doesn't mean a fast car around a lap (especially if the driver software isn't programmed right )

As we will have Bugatti Chiron's and other very powerful cars there, we are wondering where to put the braking zone, probably somewhere around the half mile to leave a huge safety margin for braking... but by that point cars with 1500 hp may have reached the 200 mph mark!!. Looking at published speeds as we try to figure out where to put the braking marker, we realized just how nonlinear acceleration especially for turbo engine cars like that.

We will also have some very powerful EV sports cars like the Rimac attending.. and I'm frankly scared of how fast they will be going at the 0.5 mile mark from a standing start..

As posts without images or videos are worthless, Here is a link to last year's event where some very pretty cars showed up.

https://youtu.be/7JRggHxThLQ

That on track drone footage is incredible!
Old 05-03-2022, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by range96
Traction is an issue. Better tires result better times. That is just how it is.
GM is advertising 131 mph with the Z07 package and the base would be faster? Why wouldn't GM advertise the base number instead? Because it is slower. The same traction management software WILL result in faster times with stickier tires.
If they are a limitation yes, but how do you know they are? What if the extra drag from the Z07 results in a slower trap speed?

Originally Posted by CAlexio
I'm really interested in how these numbers shake out. I organize this car event which has both a component with a high speed run on a airport runway, which is about 6100 feet long... as well as track time at Laguna Seca. The former is for our guests to experience higher speeds safely in their cars and get some adrenaline out, the later is to help them understand that a fast car in a straight line doesn't mean a fast car around a lap (especially if the driver software isn't programmed right )

As we will have Bugatti Chiron's and other very powerful cars there, we are wondering where to put the braking zone, probably somewhere around the half mile to leave a huge safety margin for braking... but by that point cars with 1500 hp may have reached the 200 mph mark!!. Looking at published speeds as we try to figure out where to put the braking marker, we realized just how nonlinear acceleration especially for turbo engine cars like that.

We will also have some very powerful EV sports cars like the Rimac attending.. and I'm frankly scared of how fast they will be going at the 0.5 mile mark from a standing start..

As posts without images or videos are worthless, Here is a link to last year's event where some very pretty cars showed up.

https://youtu.be/7JRggHxThLQ
Sounds like fun, going to sell a lot of insurance for the track event I imagine.
Old 05-03-2022, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
So what would you have expected? Quarter-mile times do not improve linearly with Hp increase.
Originally Posted by SL41
really?
Yes, really. It appears you did not know this based on your expectation to see a quicker/faster quartermile time. Again, what did you expect?
Old 05-03-2022, 09:28 AM
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That’s beyond a quick time and speed for an all motor car. Maybe not on the internet, but it is in the real world.
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Completely agree. GM tests the fastest version of the car, which for the C8 Z06 is a Z07 package that includes Carbon Revolution Wheels and Cup2R tires.

Originally Posted by range96
Traction is an issue. Better tires result better times. That is just how it is.
GM is advertising 131 mph with the Z07 package and the base would be faster? Why wouldn't GM advertise the base number instead? Because it is slower. The same traction management software WILL result in faster times with stickier tires.
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Originally Posted by JG853
Completely agree. GM tests the fastest version of the car, which for the C8 Z06 is a Z07 package that includes Carbon Revolution Wheels and Cup2R tires.
Not fastest for quarter mile, quickest. Most people will focus on the time not the MPH. The did the same for the base Corvette. Showed Z51 specs for the time 0-60. Time in quarter is about the same, but MPH is higher on non-Z51 car.

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My last car did consistent 10.7@130 range and kept it that way for 2-3 years. In my case that's about perfect performance, for straight line, in a car. Fast enough for a thrill but not so fast it gets away from you. If GM is advertising 10.6@131 I'm certain some folks will see 10.4 in ideal conditions. Drag times are similar to Nurburgring times, most of the enthusiasts that find complaint in them have never been on a track regardless.
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GM publishes average times good surface, not a drag prepped track, corrected for air temp, humidity, and pressure. People will absolutely be able to get better and faster results. When have they not starting with the c5?
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Originally Posted by Racer X
Not fastest for quarter mile, quickest. Most people will focus on the time not the MPH. The did the same for the base Corvette. Showed Z51 specs for the time 0-60. Time in quarter is about the same, but MPH is higher on non-Z51 car.
It comes down to more downforce (slightly more drag) vs. sticky tires. I bet on sticky tires. The wing is a lot more efficient than the old wickerbill.


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