range96

The 2023 Stingray Stingry visualizer is now up. Exciting new options on it including the coupe having a visible carbon fiber motor X-brace(*Available at a later date), a completely blackened out front fascia V-emblem, black corner exhaust tips, and an interior blackout trim and the Stingray R’s Jake hood stinger stripe. More details are here: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/367929-2023-stingray-visualizer-up
The upgraded Z06 visualizer is now out too. New exterior graphics are available for it; one we have never seen before is the rear fender “wrap around“ Jake vinyl which appears like a large hash mark. There is also the continuation of the Jake hood Stinger stripe found on the 2022 StingrayR. It too shows very similar to the 2023 Stingray, all of the new options of a coupe visible carbon fiber motor X-Brace, completely blackened-out front fascia V-emblem, black exhaust tips though in the center, and also the same interior blackout trim: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui/...e-z06/6481f668
Back to the Stingray, most importantly for all the price for the 2023 Stingray’s MSRP went up just $1,000 to $61,900. This is a far better than most competitor brands have announced. It is truly amazing when that 1.6% increase for the 2023 Stingray is compared to most non-GM price increases being consistently at least twice what the Corvette’s is for the upcoming year, i.e., one OEM just adopted a 10% across the board price increase. I do not know how GM kept 2023 Stingray pricing at that level but like you I celebrate that relatively small increase.
Re pricing, equally stunning is that none of the major options for the Stingray went up. Such expensive components as the Z51 package, mag ride, front lift, the interior upgrades to the 2LT and 3LT trim packages, ALL DID NOT EXPERIENCE ANY INCREASE AT ALL. A couple of the more minor cost options actually had a price decrease. Key new-for-2023, additional Stingray component option pricing includes:
$5,995 for the 70th Anniversay model (+$995 if you want dual racing stripes)
$200 for the black exhaust tips;
$595 for the interior aluminum black out trim;
$995 for Gloss Black Q9I wheels;
$1,995 for Polished Machined-faced, black Q99 wheels;
$1,495 for 70th Anniversary’s carbon flash metallic with perimeter Edge Red stripe;
N/C for the complete Adrenaline Red interior IF you get the 3LT trim.

The 70th Anniversary package is not limited in terms of total numbers, e.g., if you want it and your order is coupled with a 3LT pkg 2023 allocation, you will not be shut out. Also the specific 70th Anniversary’s twisted-spoke carbon flash black wheels with its Edge Red perimeter stripe are available for every 2023 Stingray.

More pricing and other new info is here: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/363977-2023-stingray-price-increase-only-1-000
And while we are talking about deserved praise, the 2022 Stingray was just named the “Best Luxury Sports Car” by U.S. News and World Report. It was exhausted by them for its “value proposition, lightning-quick acceleration, precise handling, comfortable and well-trimmed interior, and intuitive tech features.” Pros of the new Stingray according to U.S. News, include its sharp handling, blistering acceleration, comfy, posh interior, and useful cargo space.” It beat out all of the competitors to win this award: The Porsche Boxster, Porsche Caymen, Porsche 911, the Audi R8 and eight other luxury sports cars: https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/luxury-sports-cars


One other praiseworthy review of the C8 Stingray comes from Top Gear UK. While historically the Europeans especially the British have not been kind to Corvettes, here is a YouTube video that I believe you would enjoy. It’s title is: “Sports car money, SUPERCAR SPEED: Chevrolet Corvette, 184mph, 480+bhp | by Top Gear”: https://youtu.be/HMFQ0RvvsxI

Also good news, the Official 2023 Stingray Order Guide was released:
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/362770-2023-stingray-order-guide-is-now-up
Initial 2023 Stingray orders officially already went in on Thursday, March 31st. This first batch already reached status 3000 and GM just stated that tentatively the initial 2023 Stingrays will start down the production line on Monday, May 16th.
I can not stress enough that the 2023 Z06 is on a completely different timeline than is the 2023 Stingray. As Josh Holder, Chief Corvette Vehicle Manager and Harlan Charles just told us at Sebring race presentations, later reinforced by last week’s written GM communication, initial Z06 orders are currently tentativelyscheduled to go in in “June 2022.” Of course summer starts June 20th, so maybe on Thursday, June 16th? The Z06 process remains on track, i.e., just as was announced during its October 26th Z06th reveal when I heard it there myself, GM’s official web site is still stating the Z06 will be “available summer 2022 and Summer end is mid September.”
However, the Z06 Order Guide was leaked and while I normally put no faith into non-
GM leaks, the official Z06 updated visualizer released by GM just last week, exactly echoed was is in the leaked document: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/purchasing-your-new-corvette/357265-z06-ordering-code-sneak-peek-thanks-to-corvette-action-center
We also have not heard word one about the Z06’s MSRP. However, Tadge said on the Z06’s October reveal date, and this was echoed later by Harlan Charles on a “Corvette Today podcast,“ that the MSRP price differential between the C8 Z06 and the C8 Stingray would be “in the ballpark” of the difference between the C7 Z06’s MSRP and the C7’s MSRP. This difference averaged $26,000 during the C7 generation, so approximately $90,000 for the C8 Z06’s MSRP is within that estimate. If however it is in the that $90K starting price range, that would be truly amazing as the additional extra cost just to make a DOHC motor, with its hundreds of more parts than the C8’s OHV, is considerable. Yet factors suggesting the C8 Z06’s could be higher than $90,000 include that the LT6 is a bespoke motor with all of its internal parts not only all being machined but all also are the best quality engine parts that can be bought anywhere. The connecting rods for example are made by CP Carrillo who makes them for many race cars. As Jordan Lee, the Chief GM Engineer and Manager of Small Block Performance, said, “the LT6 has the best parts we can source.” But we all need to remember, until Z06 pricing is GM officially announced we do not know what it will be.
The National Corvette Museum Bash is this month from April 28th-30th. I will be there the 27th-29th. I hope we meet or re-meet at the event! There will be a ton of GM Corvette staff there to share their knowledge though their Technical presentations and to answer you questions. There are engineering-focused LT2 and LT6 seminars by the top members of GM’s Corvette motor team. Harlan noted that there will be Z06’s there on display and for folks to sit in. I believe the same Z06 dealer tour displays and sample Z06 components will also be there. Here are the key GM and related Bash seminars: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/364108-ncm-bash-agenda-and-information
Also as I always do, I am attending the annual MidEngineCorvetteForum Bash Breakfast. Sixty people have signed up already: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/349963-mecf-bash-breakfast-back-again
**Please do not email me about when my "best guess" is for your Z06 allocation coming up. If you are on my Z06 list then I will contact you when your date coded and time stamped folder comes up. GM has not announced pricing, allocations or build numbers so this will be a slow process and everyone must have patience.

orclean1

thanks for the update

RapidC84B

Thank you for sharing.

slamminc6

My favorite part is
**Please do not email me about when my "best guess" is for your Z06 allocation coming up. If you are on my Z06 list then I will contact you when your date coded and time stamped folder comes up. GM has not announced pricing, allocations or build numbers so this will be a slow process and everyone must have patience.

in a nut shell, guys you will never get this car so don’t bother me! Lol

range96

^^^

I didn't see it that way. It just means he won't be able to give you any more information at this time and he'll contact you when he does. He sold a lot of C8's (and C7's) all at MSRP ASFAIK. He did 'bother' to write his newsletter to share information he has.

P.S. I'm not involved with Mike other than expressed interest in a ZR1. Just passing on info.

Savoy2001

It’s because he had way too many people on his list pretty much all asking the same questions over and over. Ie: when are you getting pricing. When can I place an order. Where am I on your list. How long until my turn comes up. Etc. He would be answering emails all day if he entertained that.

lewislgZ06

While I believe in the methodology and integrity of Criswell’s folder system, it is antiquated and lacks transparency.
I believe if the people on the waitlist knew where they stood and could see movement as the numbers progressed, it would reduce inquiries and help buyers to be better informed and prepared when their number comes up.

stvdman

I got the same info when the C8 Stingray was first announced......happily driving one around now....

range96

And Mike claims he doesn't charge over MSRP.

stvdman

MSRP + $500 dealer fee

gowenfast

Pretty much....

Tactical-Speed

So $500 over MSRP...

ArmchairArchitect

Yep. Dealer fees should be part of the advertised price. Unfortunately dealer lobby groups are strong and get away with this nonsense. I don't mind paying a dealer fee as long as it's already included in the advertised price.

Tactical-Speed

I'm trying to buy a new Miata right now & just told a couple dealers no thanks b/c $422 doc fee & the other had a $600 doc fee

range96

You will find most dealers charge a fee, even Hyundai and Kia dealers.

RapidC84B

LOL..... every dealer ever charges a doc/prep fee. And it's not exactly a buyer's market in the car biz right now.

gowenfast

The new car fools around here charge as much a $2000.00, but I get where you're coming from.

Tactical-Speed

Yes, I know, but these figures are outrageous IMO. I'm already annoyed enough that I am paying MSRP. Work the numbers how you want as long as I get the car OTD at MSRP + T&T. If you slap a $600 "doc fee" on top of that? Happy to walk away. I don't NEED to buy a damn thing

Savoy2001

That's cool then just walk away. Problem solved. Some one else will buy it guaranteed.

ArmchairArchitect

It must be ethical if everyone does it, especially dealers who are known for their ethics. /s