CDNZR

Let's start a new discussion while some of us are waiting for more news of the ERay and ordering info for the Z06.
Just say that there will be a 600HP LT3 GS as discussed from the other thread. Then where will the ERay be slotted into the C8 line up? It can't have the same 600HP as the GS?
They made a splash with the LT6 with the most HP FPC. Some had suggested that they would do the same with their first ever Hybrid? A show case of their EV Battery tech. If they are using the NSX as their base line, why not exceed it by a large margin with a 650-670hp ERay?
They can use it as their test bed for ZR1/ZORA variant that would use the same electric motor setup say 180 hp?

670HP ERay with Similar MSRP as the Z06. The quickest 0-60 as a bragging rights for mass production car?

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Michael A

I don't think so. The eRay is only going to be electric powered to the front wheels. During acceleration weight will be transferred off the front wheels, so you will be limited on how much torque can be applied to the front wheels. Also you start getting into more torque steer issues. If there was a motor to the rear wheels, then there would be more of a case for more electric power.

Also, GM is going to want to keep the price reasonable. Bigger battery, bigger motor, bigger controller, bigger wiring, all adds cost.

Caymanspyder

Yes, I really think it will have the horsepower closer to the Z06, Not quite as high but 600hp is my prediction. We need to look at the facts, Some of the most advanced supercars are now hybrids, putting out crazy numbers. I assume this will have the LT2 495hp V-8, but keep in mind the E=Ray is running the Z06 body/suspension etc. I really don't think GM will add a 80hp electric motor and call it good.....Oh no...it will be more and closer to the Z06. There is a reason why this is in the wide body. Obviously it will be much heavier than the Z06. I think everyone will be very surprised. With absolutely no hints or leaks on power they probably won't announce it until the Z06 production is well on the way. It will be very interesting to visit this thread later in the year to see what kind of power this E-Ray will have. I think the E-Ray will become as hot as the Z06....

Now this is just my thoughts, not facts, Lets see who get's the horsepower close....600hp is my official prediction.

onebadcad

HP needs to be at a level that you can race a plaid in the 1,320', get out at the finish line and pop open a PBR, and then wave at it as it finishes its run.

JABCAT

Nobody knows if the ERay will be wide-body. The Corvette team has stated more than once the Z06 has a unique front and rear fascia for the first time in its history. So those comments would support the ERay not having the the Z06 wide body.

C7Me

I agree with Caymanspyder that it will be around 600 HP. It will not have more HP or faster then the Z06. No way they would do this. My guess is it will have the widebody like all other GS's. I have a deposit on one so I can't wait to find out!!

ZO6ZO7isme

IF you are going EV, what makes the difference what you buy?
hell just buy that cheaper Tesla or a Chevy bolt and be done w it. I d never buy an E Vette, NEVER.

After you hear the New ZO6 screaming at 8600 RPMs (in person) you ll be saying the same thing bra. Personally, I’m looking forward to breaking neighborhood windows.

PurpleLion

The ERay would probably benefit from the larger front tires of the wide body.

Cyclon36

I think the real question is, what will the torque figures look like. Electric motors are great at providing torque which may give it a best 0-60 which for some reason most people obsess about. Might be a monster down low, but peter out at higher speeds.

Z0HS1CK

ERAY will have 600hp exact. A nice round number. I think anything more and to the average joe, that's too close to the z06 670hp number. People will see a slightly cheaper price tag, with a power output close to the z06, they'll end up getting that. Well they might have to anyway since z06 wait lists look like an annual grocery list.

But at the same time i think GM wants people to be interested in a hybrid corvette since that will be the future. Or in short term, show us what the top of the line (whether ZR1 or ZORA) will have in terms of hybrid technology.

So maybe they will go above and beyond for this ERAY. I really don't think GM will have the ERAY (GS or whatever it's called) be in the shadows of the z06 anymore. I think if the ERAY puts out 650, GM is ok with that. They want a corvette with hybrid tech, to shine.

The z06 already has it's following, so GM won't have to worry about potential z06 buyers to drop out to get an ERAY since again the wait list for the z06 is so long, people will be waiting until 2027 lol.

I have a feeling either the ERAY will be capped off at 600hp. Or GM will go for the gold with their first hybrid corvette and if it ends up at 640-650hp, that's fine by them.

A hybrid AWD 650hp C8 will be a rocket though lol.

Caymanspyder

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/12...y-undisguised/

I know I know, this is a very big debate, no front axles etc..,However, I really think with all the spy photos and leaks that it will be a wide body.

msm859

GM would have to completely screw up the ERay for it to NOT be "quicker" than the Z06 at least 0-60. 1/4 mile might be interesting.

msm859

Well that is not going to happen. It will still have the same engine as the base Stingray which is good for 180+. 0-120 it should be noticeably quicker.

C7Me

I have to disagree. There is no way they make a less expensive model that’s faster then the Z06. If they do, then it will be priced at the Z06 level. That could be a possibility also. The ZR1 or Zora will be the ultimate hybrid Vette, not the E-Ray. Plus, IMO, having Ray in the model name tells me it will be en enhanced version of the Stingray/spec’d down Z06, which is basically what a GS is/was.

Tactical-Speed

Then the starting price will be north of $100k...

Z0HS1CK

It could be 2.8 just like the stingray or fall right in place of it and the z06. So 2.7.

Maybe that's why GM wanted the z06 to be 2.6 0-60, so the ERAY can be 2.7.

vtknight

I actually believe that the AWD electric assist will be as quicker or quicker for the ERay. I think GM knows they have to get some buy in for the EV assist - and that will be one way to do it. I am buying a C8Z - very happily so - knowing that the Eray will be extremely close if not quicker up until the 1/4 (as the electric is just an assist and I think the electric motors will be good for another 7-9+ MPH in the 1/4 from the Stingray - which will be very close to the 130+ MPH trap of the C8Z). Although EV will add weight - it can actually be helpful for initial traction - and the instant AWD torque will make up for it. I am even buying a C8Z knowing that the C8 ZR1 will crush it in every way (1/4 and road course). I am good with that because I am in for the FPC high revving sound (it is possible the ZR1 will be an Eray version - LT6 plus electric assist - which will keep the rpm - but I think they will go FI instead). I want the first and last all NA FPC mid engine V8 GM will ever make.

msm859

Why?

The hard costs to turn a Stingray into a PHEV with a 10kWh battery and 2 electric motors upfront of @83 hp each would probably be less than $7500. As is amply demonstrated in this forum there are plenty of people who will never consider the ERay because it is "electric". But there are also a number who want GM to cripple the potential and/or charge an extreme price because they don't want it to be better in any way than the non electric Corvette. Making it quicker than a Z06 0-60 would be very easy. However, the cars serve 2 very distinct purposes/customers. Just as many here would not consider an ERay, there are some of us who are not interested in a Z06. Now give me a 4 liter FPC V-8 and 2 - 100+ hp electric motors up front , Z06 body, PHEV with a 12 kWh battery........................

Z0HS1CK

I agree with this 10000%

Also i think you're onto something with that post.

I'm starting to get the impression of why i think everyone wanted the z06 to be a TT monster. Not because it'll just have TT, but because it'll have TT AND have the z06 badge.

If someone were to get a C8 stingray, which would cost less, then get a TT package (since people want to modify a C8 anyway), and it'll end up faster and more powerful than a stock C8Z, why isn't that a consideration for many? I know why, because they feel like in the end, they did all that work with a stingray.

So i also believe this thought process is shared with the notion of the ERAY potentially being as quick or even quicker in the 1/4 than the z06. Because the z06 is supposed to be about racing, hardcore driving, the ultimate track weapon etc. And it will be. But on a road course. I don't think some people who had hopes for the z06, or thinking about getting one, or on the list to get one, can fathom an ERAY which would most likely still slide under the z06 in the lineup, to be faster or at fast as it.

In previous generations, the gap between the GS and the z06 were massive. This time around they will be even. Maybe the edge to the ERAY for street driving. z06 will be a better track car, obviously.

JABCAT

Seriously? That’s been proven to be a Z06. Why people keep quoting gm authority, I have no idea.