FF2000

Them saying something on a website has no legal meaning.

Also, to be clear, my Z06 deposit transaction was an electronic transaction by email They sent me a filled out formal "Retail Order for a Motor Vehicle". It has the terms of MSRP etc. as described above. It has specifically says "THIS ORDER IS NOT A BINDING CONTRACT UNTIL ACCEPTED BY DEALER OR HIS AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE". The order is then electronically signed and accepted by myself and the dealer. This seems as close to a binding contract as you might hope for.

You should contact them if you want more detail or comfort if you already have a deposit with them. As I have said before, they are very transparent (maybe the most of any larger dealer) and were exact in how we were charged for previous 2 C8s.

Z0HS1CK

I received the same email as well as the 1000+ people who put deposits to get on the wait list.

But putting it on the website will give peace of mind.

It's sort of like having a sale at walmart or something. Instead of just getting an email stating the sale you can get when you shop, they'll list it on the homepage of their website like, "2 day only sale starting today!" etc.

I'm not saying MM will just disregard what they said in the email to us. But when threads like this are created, then you can only have some concern.

Panfish

Don’t be. Many more will follow. Many more. Monstrous profits won’t be ignored, and I think you’ll be seeing some totally unexpected dealers succumbing to the almighty buck.

WeaponsGradeTorque

Disgusting behavior by this stealership. I will spread the word to anyone considering purchasing a Corvette from them. I would take them to court over this. Highly unethical to have an email from them agreeing to purchase terms, and then "changing" their minds. This is worse than a breach of verbal contract.

Panfish

These are car dealerships. There never was any such thing as loyalty. Most will throw you under the bus for a few bucks. $50,000?

You’re toast.

To those who might be giggling at your misfortune, if they have a deposit with a dealer thinking they have MSRP too, many are in for a shock. The only possible exceptions would be the handful of larger known dealers known for MSRP, and even then IMO, some or all might fall on the Z06 too.

Panfish

IMO MacMulkin would be the strongest bet to honor MSRP, but even if they do that, they might initiate other aspects to thwart flipping, like buyback stipulations and/or higher deposits. If MacMulkin falls on MSRP, it’s all over.

Panfish

MacMulkin (and a few other similarly situated dealers) have the luxury of being a somewhat different animal then most Chevy dealers. They get (or will get) perhaps 1000 C8’s annually, and will likely get several hundred Z06’s. As such, their “catchment” is nationwide. That occurs because of their volume and their reputation. Smaller dealers who don’t have that are more capable of sacrificing any concern of reputation when it comes to the Corvette because they mostly sell other models, and can weather the small percentage of customers alienated over a handful of annual allocations of one model.

Yes, MacMulkin can succumb and move the Z06 goalposts alienating buyers, but the damage to their reputation, and thus nationwide attraction would impact them to a much greater degree than “Joe Blow Chevrolet”. In their case, it might be a pyrrhic victory to do that though, as many wouldn’t want to risk trust and patience with a distant dealer if they have a track record changing terms after deposit. Not to say it won’t happen, but IMO it would have much more severe consequences regardless of how many cars they get.

They make their money on volume, and that volume would be at risk with reneging on MSRP.

Z0HS1CK

Damn.

whitec7

I would only hope that all Z06 buyers would just walk away and say no over MSRP. These dealers sell more them just Corvettes, trucks others cars and SUV's. They will never get my business on any of them!!!!!!

jim2527

Was looking to replace my wife’s 2019 RAV4 with 2022 as her ‘19 is worth more than I paid for it.

Some of the ‘21’s have upwards of $4000 in dealer installed options that’re included in the MSRP. They’re on the Monrony sticker.

Dealers will find a way.

449er

OP, unfortunately that 13k over msrp is actually a good deal for a C8 Z06. You could take possession of the car & turn around & sell it for a good profit. Obviously, these cars are in high demand & if the dealers are looking to make a nice profit with these cars, you can too

Zjoe6

What if they keep raising it?

raduziub

Nitro-C5, I sent you my emails and info I have regarding the mark up, I have it in writing from the sales person that they will be charging $13K. I hope you can use that, along with what others send you. I agree 110% with you!
Thanks!

Rkreigh

vote with your feet. Let someone else pay the stealership. I had the same thing happen when I custom ordered a Turbo T Buick

Dealer tried to jack me for 900 above the agreed to price which was on a contract. Took my cash put it back in my pocket and walked.

Stealership manager literally ran down the street and finally agreed to the price on the contract.

once you ORDER the car and have a sales contract, stick to it or as mentioned file in court for breach of contract.

I have found that ordering from the big guys who will work with you at MSRP is worth the miles to travel and get the car

you can even save enough to ship or museum deliver. I don't cater to greedy folks that think the corvette is a ferrari just because it looks like one

this is supposed to be the working Joe's hot rod, and doesn't have to be a rip off.

I guess I'm more patient too. Let someone else take the big depreciation hit and wait until the "newness" wears off a bit and prices will come down to suit the market value.

The old c4 zr1 guys paid MUCHO premium over sticker, now those low mile cars trade for a fraction of purchase. The Z06 won't be rare enough to be a collector, unless you want to grow old and save it for someone else.

I'll wear it out and fix it several times and be many smiles ahead. The $ don't buy that like driving does.

tobaccokid

I get the NECESSARY PPF typically at approx. $3K.

Best we can all do is to spread the word far and wide that named dealer X is doing such and such. Then, if people choose to avoid and boycott that dealer for ANY (sales AND/OR service) business it's possible that if enough business hurt is put on them that other dealers may see that and avoid the prospect of business lost.

As they says, "nothing ventured, nothing gained". We have the freedom to bypass a dealer just like they have the freedom to stick it to us.

Panfish

In all likelihood, they will.

SlayerRX8

The really annoying part is that it's a "package". If you're going to charge a markup, say it's a markup. Don't **** on people and tell them it's rain.

ZL-1

Ironically when the C7 Z06 came out, out of all the big dealers MacMulkin was the only one that initially was demanding over msrp. They took a lot of bashing on the forums. And Kerbeck and the other dealers stayed at msrp. MacMulkin was forced to back down and sell their C7 Z06’s at msrp.



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Panfish

With this car, there will be no shortage of those with cash to burn to fill the void of those who voted with their feet. Even better for the stealerships in the long run. Want a C8? They’ll be happy in a year or so to sell you a stingray for a reasonable profit, perhaps even MSRP. Want a Z06?

Sorry…you got to pay to play…big boys only, please.

Panfish

History might repeat itself in reverse. If one of the big 3 collapse, the others are likely to follow to at least some degree. I put Ciocca as the most likely fuse, if that happens.