Notices
C8 Z06/ZR1/Zora Discussion General Z06, ZR1 and Zora Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By: Wheel Designers

Z on the Dragon?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-17-2021, 11:25 PM
  #1  
mikey
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
mikey's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: Nashville TN area
Posts: 3,026
Received 135 Likes on 64 Posts

Default Z on the Dragon?

Given recent sightings near Knoxville, if anyone has loads of free time you could scour 129photos.com and killboy.com to see if any prototypes were caught in action.
according to this post https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...6-in-camo.html one may have been there today.

Edit: 129photos posted photos day after taking. See post #8 below.
please post pics if you find any!

Last edited by mikey; 11-19-2021 at 12:12 AM.
Old 11-18-2021, 09:44 AM
  #2  
RapidC84B
Team Owner
 
RapidC84B's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 20,288
Received 13,218 Likes on 6,021 Posts

Default

Saw some posted on FB already from Killboy. It’s the old prototype with side exit rear exhaust.
Old 11-18-2021, 10:49 AM
  #3  
ArmchairArchitect
Banned Scam/Spammer
 
ArmchairArchitect's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2016
Location: Philadelphia PA (Birthplace of the USA, UNESCO World Heritage City)
Posts: 4,004
Received 3,916 Likes on 1,616 Posts
Default

But according to many on this forum, a track-focused car like the Z06 is "useless on the street" not realizing that public roads like the Tail of the Dragon, which exist in some form all over the country (though maybe not nearly as long) are about using a car's all-around performance (turning, braking, lightweight nimbleness, acceleration) rather than just straight-line performance.
The following users liked this post:
Reep (11-18-2021)
Old 11-18-2021, 11:14 AM
  #4  
MitchAlsup
Le Mans Master
 
MitchAlsup's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: Austin Texas
Posts: 5,042
Received 1,592 Likes on 784 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
But according to many on this forum, a track-focused car like the Z06 is "useless on the street" not realizing that public roads like the Tail of the Dragon, which exist in some form all over the country (though maybe not nearly as long) are about using a car's all-around performance (turning, braking, lightweight nimbleness, acceleration) rather than just straight-line performance.
Cannot "be used fully on the street" is way different than "useless on the street".
Old 11-18-2021, 11:38 AM
  #5  
vndkshn
Melting Slicks
 
vndkshn's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2018
Location: North Texas
Posts: 2,666
Received 1,776 Likes on 863 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
Cannot "be used fully on the street" is way different than "useless on the street".
And literally nobody said what he is claiming was said.... but that tends to be his MO.
Old 11-18-2021, 11:38 AM
  #6  
ArmchairArchitect
Banned Scam/Spammer
 
ArmchairArchitect's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2016
Location: Philadelphia PA (Birthplace of the USA, UNESCO World Heritage City)
Posts: 4,004
Received 3,916 Likes on 1,616 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
Cannot "be used fully on the street" is way different than "useless on the street".
Even if driven to 7/10ths capability, that 7/10ths in a track-focused car is still faster/funner than 7/10ths in a slower, heavier, less grippy, longer-braking distance GT version of the same exact car.
Old 11-18-2021, 03:54 PM
  #7  
MitchAlsup
Le Mans Master
 
MitchAlsup's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: Austin Texas
Posts: 5,042
Received 1,592 Likes on 784 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
Even if driven to 7/10ths capability, that 7/10ths in a track-focused car is still faster/funner than 7/10ths in a slower, heavier, less grippy, longer-braking distance GT version of the same exact car.
Unless you are expecting someone to drive by and ask if you happen to have any Grey Poupon !
Old 11-18-2021, 10:56 PM
  #8  
mikey
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
mikey's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: Nashville TN area
Posts: 3,026
Received 135 Likes on 64 Posts

Default




whoop there it was! Wednesday 17 NOV 2021 @ 12:12P EST
The following 5 users liked this post by mikey:
416vette (11-18-2021), ArmchairArchitect (11-20-2021), Atlantan (11-19-2021), capevettes (11-19-2021), Warp Ten (11-19-2021)
Old 11-19-2021, 10:04 AM
  #9  
Atlantan
Drifting
 
Atlantan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2019
Location: Gwinnett County, GA
Posts: 1,488
Received 1,288 Likes on 634 Posts
Default

https://killboy.photoreflect.com/sto...&po=311&pc=751
Old 11-19-2021, 11:15 AM
  #10  
jcp911s
Melting Slicks
 
jcp911s's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,584
Received 1,583 Likes on 795 Posts

Default

Last I heard Tail of the Dragon was full of as**les and idiots... go to a proper racetrack, and learn to drive the car.... Plenty of them out there...Motorsportsreg.com.... HPDE

Get track insurance from ontrackinsurance.... its catastrophic loss protection, but if you ball-up an $80K car, you have a ;to of 'splainin to do Luzy....

Have fun.
The following 3 users liked this post by jcp911s:
mracer (11-22-2021), ShadyVette (11-24-2021), ZRacerLE (11-20-2021)
Old 11-20-2021, 10:21 PM
  #11  
mikey
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
mikey's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: Nashville TN area
Posts: 3,026
Received 135 Likes on 64 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jcp911s
Last I heard Tail of the Dragon was full of as**les and idiots... go to a proper racetrack, and learn to drive the car.... Plenty of them out there...Motorsportsreg.com.... HPDE

Get track insurance from ontrackinsurance.... its catastrophic loss protection, but if you ball-up an $80K car, you have a ;to of 'splainin to do Luzy....

Have fun.
Corvettes sold to the public are not proper race cars. I have both. And race tracks can't provide what Route 129 or countless other glorious roads can provide.

I don't know who Luzy is but if my street car gets wadded up on the street it's insured already. Have fun.
Old 11-20-2021, 10:43 PM
  #12  
WICKEDFRC
Race Director

 
WICKEDFRC's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 16,270
Received 1,652 Likes on 738 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jcp911s
Last I heard Tail of the Dragon was full of as**les and idiots... go to a proper racetrack, and learn to drive the car.... Plenty of them out there...Motorsportsreg.com.... HPDE

Get track insurance from ontrackinsurance.... its catastrophic loss protection, but if you ball-up an $80K car, you have a ;to of 'splainin to do Luzy....

Have fun.
I spent about 5 days at the Tail of the Dragon about two years ago. To be honest, I wasn't all that impressed.

Here in Arizona, we have Mount Lemmon which is 30 miles of twisties and "Alpine" which, from Three-Way up to Alpine and back down through New Mexico is 205 miles of twisties, sweepers, and switchbacks. The old Highway 666, now Highway 191. The absolute best I've ever been on. And I've had the opportunity to test my driver skills on NurburgRing and HockenheimRing as well. Hands down, "Alpine" was the best!! In all of 205 miles, we passed maybe 10 cars. A bit remote, but great for wide open runs. 460 curves up one way and unsure how many down the New Mexico side.

As for Tail of the Dragon, I had more fun riding the Chehola Skyway, Blue Ridge Parkway, and riding 360 South to 165 and east to 143, and North 129 (To include the Tail), out to 72, onto 411 where I was staying. A nice 130 miles of beautiful scenery. I also hit up Gaitlinburg, and wound up in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So much more to see than just the Tail of the Dragon. Don't forget to eat a fat, juicy cheeseburger at Apple Valley Mountain Village and Cafe!! Damn that was a huge burger!!!
The following 2 users liked this post by WICKEDFRC:
RapidC84B (11-21-2021), VetteDrmr (11-23-2021)
Old 11-20-2021, 11:23 PM
  #13  
international blue
Melting Slicks
 
international blue's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Burning Jet-A
Posts: 3,177
Received 2,411 Likes on 1,044 Posts

Default

once again....no vin number pics...
Old 11-21-2021, 08:44 AM
  #14  
RapidC84B
Team Owner
 
RapidC84B's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 20,288
Received 13,218 Likes on 6,021 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
I spent about 5 days at the Tail of the Dragon about two years ago. To be honest, I wasn't all that impressed.

Here in Arizona, we have Mount Lemmon which is 30 miles of twisties and "Alpine" which, from Three-Way up to Alpine and back down through New Mexico is 205 miles of twisties, sweepers, and switchbacks. The old Highway 666, now Highway 191. The absolute best I've ever been on. And I've had the opportunity to test my driver skills on NurburgRing and HockenheimRing as well. Hands down, "Alpine" was the best!! In all of 205 miles, we passed maybe 10 cars. A bit remote, but great for wide open runs. 460 curves up one way and unsure how many down the New Mexico side.

As for Tail of the Dragon, I had more fun riding the Chehola Skyway, Blue Ridge Parkway, and riding 360 South to 165 and east to 143, and North 129 (To include the Tail), out to 72, onto 411 where I was staying. A nice 130 miles of beautiful scenery. I also hit up Gaitlinburg, and wound up in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So much more to see than just the Tail of the Dragon. Don't forget to eat a fat, juicy cheeseburger at Apple Valley Mountain Village and Cafe!! Damn that was a huge burger!!!
Agree… of all the roads around there the Dragon is my least favorite. Still awesome, but there are more fun roads. Tapocco Lodge is a great place to stay and eat.
Old 11-22-2021, 07:07 PM
  #15  
jcp911s
Melting Slicks
 
jcp911s's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,584
Received 1,583 Likes on 795 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by mikey
Corvettes sold to the public are not proper race cars. I have both. And race tracks can't provide what Route 129 or countless other glorious roads can provide.

I don't know who Luzy is but if my street car gets wadded up on the street it's insured already. Have fun.
What's the spec on your racer, and what are your results.
Old 11-22-2021, 08:19 PM
  #16  
*89x2*
Team Owner
 
*89x2*'s Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: ...tearing up the highways, one state at a time™®©
Posts: 31,688
Received 2,106 Likes on 1,078 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
I spent about 5 days at the Tail of the Dragon about two years ago. To be honest, I wasn't all that impressed.

Here in Arizona, we have Mount Lemmon which is 30 miles of twisties and "Alpine" which, from Three-Way up to Alpine and back down through New Mexico is 205 miles of twisties, sweepers, and switchbacks. The old Highway 666, now Highway 191. The absolute best I've ever been on. And I've had the opportunity to test my driver skills on NurburgRing and HockenheimRing as well. Hands down, "Alpine" was the best!! In all of 205 miles, we passed maybe 10 cars. A bit remote, but great for wide open runs. 460 curves up one way and unsure how many down the New Mexico side.

As for Tail of the Dragon, I had more fun riding the Chehola Skyway, Blue Ridge Parkway, and riding 360 South to 165 and east to 143, and North 129 (To include the Tail), out to 72, onto 411 where I was staying. A nice 130 miles of beautiful scenery. I also hit up Gaitlinburg, and wound up in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So much more to see than just the Tail of the Dragon. Don't forget to eat a fat, juicy cheeseburger at Apple Valley Mountain Village and Cafe!! Damn that was a huge burger!!!

@WICKEDFRC Having driven the roads all around Tail of the Dragon, plus up and down Mt. Lemmon many times, I agree. 100%
HWY 666 kept getting signs taken, so the name was changed. What else can I add to this thread, other than to say you are right
The following users liked this post:
WICKEDFRC (11-22-2021)
Old 11-22-2021, 08:59 PM
  #17  
WICKEDFRC
Race Director

 
WICKEDFRC's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 16,270
Received 1,652 Likes on 738 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by *89x2*
@WICKEDFRC Having driven the roads all around Tail of the Dragon, plus up and down Mt. Lemmon many times, I agree. 100%
HWY 666 kept getting signs taken, so the name was changed. What else can I add to this thread, other than to say you are right
Good to see someone else has experienced Highway 191. One of the best!!

I really enjoyed NurburgRing too, but enjoyed the high speed of Autobahn 5 outside Frankfurt even better.

How do you TAG people?
#*89x2*
@*89x2*


Get notified of new replies

To Z on the Dragon?

Old 11-22-2021, 09:02 PM
  #18  
*89x2*
Team Owner
 
*89x2*'s Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: ...tearing up the highways, one state at a time™®©
Posts: 31,688
Received 2,106 Likes on 1,078 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
Good to see someone else has experienced Highway 191. One of the best!!

I really enjoyed NurburgRing too, but enjoyed the high speed of Autobahn 5 outside Frankfurt even better.

How do you TAG people?
#*89x2*
@*89x2*
@___________ <<---tags someone
Old 11-22-2021, 09:15 PM
  #19  
*89x2*
Team Owner
 
*89x2*'s Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: ...tearing up the highways, one state at a time™®©
Posts: 31,688
Received 2,106 Likes on 1,078 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
Good to see someone else has experienced Highway 191. One of the best!!

...here’s a pic from up on Mt. Lemmon



The following users liked this post:
WICKEDFRC (11-22-2021)
Old 11-22-2021, 10:43 PM
  #20  
mikey
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
mikey's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: Nashville TN area
Posts: 3,026
Received 135 Likes on 64 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jcp911s
What's the spec on your racer, and what are your results.
i have more than one proper race car, but my fastest is the one in the pic by my username. Lola T91/50.
The following users liked this post:
VetteDrmr (11-23-2021)


Quick Reply: Z on the Dragon?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:13 AM.