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Panfish

Everyone with a deposit regardless of dealer (including the Big 3), should be prepared to face this potential reality. I think some here are happy to advocate free market pricing because they believe themselves to be insulated from direct impact by having an assumed, implied, or presently advertised promise of MSRP.

They will scream the loudest if that bubble is burst, and it is THEY who are staring at a new $20-40K ADM.

JDSKY

Who woulda' thunk that GM would ever pull off taking the the lowly everyman Corvette into the rare air of exotics including the price tag to go along with it? People willingly shelling out over $100K for the base car? Multi-year wait lists full of profit-seekers and flippers that stand to make $50K over list? That will easily put the Z06 near the $200K price point with any options added. These are good days for all Corvette owners.

I'm on a "list" at my small local dealer for the car at MSRP. If I get one in a year or two that's great, if not I'll just keep enjoying the ride I have. I really don't get all the fighting over a toy but then I am old enough to remember the cabbage patch doll.

Supersonic 427

My dealership (now ex) told me MSRP when I put my name on their C8 Z06 list after I sold my '21 HTC. Now it is 15K over because I sold the HTC on my own. This is a dealership that I have purchased 6 new Corvettes, a new Camaro and a used Corvette in 6 years time. All cars purchased had a trade of mine involved except the used Corvette. I considered these people to be my friend as they have been to my house and have visited them at least monthly for years. One of the managers even told me that they didn't care if I made money on a car purchased from them! The C8 I guess changed all that and will be worse with the Z06! Sometimes when it comes to money...friendship wanes quickly!!

walleyfisher

Sounds more like you had a business relationship than a friendship, and business is business and he will most likley offer the best deal he can offer that market dictates

Reep

I don't fundamentally disagree with you, but in this case Chevy is clearly trying to produce a supercar that can reach the middle class. When you have dealers taking advantage of that and moving it out of that range it makes them appear greedy and slimy. Yes, they have the right to do that. I would rather Chev raised the MSRP so that they got the money for their efforts. Ideally, Chev would have a contract with dealers not allowing them to do this. With capitalism comes responsibility and those that abuse it help create the class of people who fight it and push for socialism.

Capitalism with altruism is amazing. Capitalism with greed leads to fall of a civilization as the those without eventually get large enough to change things.

C7ZO6

Why is some an idiot to pay over sticker to own that car ?
maybe the buyer is smarter than most of you, he or she made lots soft money and can afford to do that ?

use your brain to be that person.

every Ferrari sells for over sticker, and no buyers are not idiots in fact they are smarter than most of u.

ZO6 is an amazing car and if someone wants to pay over sticker
good for them,

walleyfisher

I look at it this way, The "Buying" public is setting the price not a bean counter.
The CAR is amazing or the fever to own one would not be so great. GM is getting cheap advertizing by all the bidding wars on how this car comes under valued from the factory IMHO

JDSKY

What is happening supports the idea that supercar and middle class really won't ever align in any sort of universe. Perhaps GM simply did too good a job of pushing the Corvette into actual supercar territory with the Z06.

Overall the base car does a great job of fulfilling the Corvette value prop. The Z06 is going to be the first iteration that actually ticks a few boxes in the supercar category. First and foremost is making the noise that every supercar buyer expects.

RapidC84B

This is why I rolled the dice and got on Ciocca's list. My local dealer has been telling me I'm #1 at MSRP for 2 years (since I put my first deposit in May '19 for a Stingray). They refused to take any money and finally admitted they weren't honoring MSRP on the Z06. I got in line at another medium volume dealer who is now "pending management meeting" to decide if they're honoring their MSRP list.

TTRotary

THIS.

Happens every generation of Corvettes. Every new car, they go for way over sticker. A year later it's 5k below, and 3 years in, they unloading them for $10K below sticker. The irony is that the early ones are not only the most expensive, but also the least reliable...

Old School

I once lost a good friend over $50, he was an old friend too. Sometimes when I'm driving my car alone at night I look back on it and think 'Man, I miss that 50 dollars!'

BMadden

So that excuses his so called friend being a lying d-bag? Glad you're so understanding when it comes to dealer greed...I for one am not.

Shokosugi

If I considered someone a friend I wouldn’t want him to miss out an opportunity to make $50k. I’d buy it elsewhere. Perhaps both of you aren’t being such good friends but rather a selfish dealer and disappointed buyer who mistook his money for friendship. Dealers going back on their word sucks but there is some onus on the buyer to understand the market, get stuff in writing and offer legal consideration for it to be binding if it’s important to them. When it comes to ethics, no sense in crying about how things should be. Deal with how they really are or you are the only one who is going to get burned. Hopefully another source is on your horizon.

George D.

Well there is one issue for sure. Look at other vehicles for sale. TRX $15-$20k over and the Cadillac Escalade $20k and the newbie is the Jeep Wagoneer $10 to $15k.
It is what it is. I have seen $30 to $50K for the Z06 so I am done. Don't need it that bad. I have the cash but with $50k over I can by two standard 2023 fully loaded C8's.

CDNZR

Isn't this how they priced gas?

lostsoul

To upcharge a car 50K thats still almost a year away is just.....

Panfish

Rumor has it Walmart is having a sale on quality lubricants. If you’re hoping for a smooth outcome (or intake) regarding your local dealer, you may want to get a tube to ease the transition to help deal with their inevitable decision. Perhaps a fresh set of rubber gloves as well?

CDNZR

What would one do if they can get one at $50k below msrp will anyone decline that deal and pay msrp? Just playing devil's advocate.

khartford

The Z06 price discussion on this forum is hilarious. The car hasn't been built yet and the Chicken Littles are saying "I will pay more." G.M. sets the price. If everyone holds them to list that is what the dealer gets. Sure, there will be a few moronic rich guys that pay over list but there aren't enough of them to push up the market- you, Mr. Average will control the market by paying list. I paid list for my C8 with no admin fee. Don't be stupid.